Doug DeMuro Reviews the 370Z Nismo...and it doesn't go too well

sizziano · 06-02-2019, 09:08 AM

This thread went downhill fast

vtec to vvel · 06-02-2019, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter

I find some good ones here and there but the pile you have to sift through is massive. I did just get 2 brothers, 21 and 24 or so, that both want to work and are not complete dumb***es. But the rest want to get paid $5000 an hour while staring at their phone for 6 hours a week.

Absolutely, there are those that want to work and will bust @$$, but hard to come by.

And I just re-read my post and wasn’t referring to you about the comment in parenthesis being possibly offensive, but rather to the general public.

Rusty · 06-02-2019, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sizziano

This thread went downhill fast

This thread needs a new direction.

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Rusty · 06-02-2019, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

Absolutely, there are those that want to work and will bust @$$, but hard to come by.

And I just re-read my post and wasn’t referring to you about the comment in parenthesis being possibly offensive, but rather to the general public.

This is my take on things over the years. Skilled trades is dying. Kids coming out of high school don't want to get their hands dirty. They spent years inside playing video games that does nothing to prepare them for life after school. So they go to college which fosters the wrong ideas to prepare them for after college. When they come out of college. They have this idea in their head that they will start at the top, get the corner office, with 2 sets of windows to look out of, plus top pay too. If they don't get that. They want their safe spaces.

vtec to vvel · 06-02-2019, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

This is my take on things over the years. Skilled trades is dying. Kids coming out of high school don't want to get their hands dirty. They spent years inside playing video games that does nothing to prepare them for life after school. So they go to college which fosters the wrong ideas to prepare them for after college. When they come out of college. They have this idea in their head that they will start at the top, get the corner office, with 2 sets of windows to look out of, plus top pay too. If they don't get that. They want their safe spaces.

I’m guilty about the part right outta college. Right after graduation, I got a decent job lined up and thought I was the sh*t. It was my HR director that put me in my place and humbled me, for which I am grateful. And it does seem like a pattern of whenever I interview applicants, most of them have this expectation of having a cush and easy workload, but when I tell them of a typical day, they look like a deer in headlights.

vtec to vvel · 06-02-2019, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sizziano

This thread went downhill fast

Ok, back to bashing douche demuro.

For those that gripe about the Z that bought earlier models, ok I can understand. But for those that recently bought, you knew what you were buying and still gripe about being outdated? Why did you buy?

ChopsZ · 06-02-2019, 03:30 PM

I didn't read this entire thread, but did anyone catch the part where he said there was a "subwoofer where the spare should be, but there's no spare"?

He didn't even bother to look a little deeper/better to see that the sub is mounted to the spare.

Things like this and all the other stuff mentioned in this thread is precisely why I never pay attention to reviewers no matter what it is.

If I want to read reviews on something, I dig up random forums and sites online where actual people like you and me post up our actual experiences with the product. That's where you get your most accurate reviews, not some a$$ clown who thinks he knows what he's talking about and makes a living off of it.

NISMO IX · 06-02-2019, 04:18 PM

You figure a "professional" review would include research before doing the review. Just so you don't come across like a dumbass. The fact that a few things he said sound like diarrhea. Also, I guess I am one of those true sports car type guys though, I mean, who needs electric seats and sound deadening material because of "road noise", only to spoil the ride by adding weight. Then have "reviewers" complain about the Z being too heavy for a sports car.

There has always been hate by most reviewers on this car. People should make thier own opinion by test driving one before judging on some else's biased diarrhea, erm, review.

HEK · 06-02-2019, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NecioVato

I know someone has already posted this video from Redline Reviews - but I feel this guy hits it on the nail pretty good with his review of the Nismo. He focuses on the outdatedness but when he gets in the car and drives it - even he can't deny how much fun it is to drive overall. Is the Z outdated and needs a refresh - we all agree it should have happened 3-5 years ago - but it is what it is. Still a great car and a fun car to drive.

https://youtu.be/Egjf-Uh3B38

Funny how one guy can trash talk and another person actually state the facts...

vtec to vvel · 06-02-2019, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

You figure a "professional" review would include research before doing the review. Just so you don't come across like a dumbass. The fact that a few things he said sound like diarrhea. Also, I guess I am one of those true sports car type guys though, I mean, who needs electric seats and sound deadening material because of "road noise", only to spoil the ride by adding weight. Then have "reviewers" complain about the Z being too heavy for a sports car.

There has always been hate by most reviewers on this car. People should make thier own opinion by test driving one before judging on some else's biased diarrhea, erm, review.

Agree 100%.

A true sports car, IMO, would be something raw and without the luxuries. I think Honda did a good job with the s2k CR where even AC was an option.

NISMO IX · 06-02-2019, 11:57 PM

Some people should stop and think about what it actually takes to develop a brand new car and how much that costs. When you sell more mustangs in one year than Nissan has sold of the 370z since 2009, there is a lot less to invest in future models. Ford can sell enough to invest in a new mustang every 5 years or so. Nissan maybe waiting to make return investment before investing into a new Z.

ImportConvert · 06-03-2019, 05:43 AM

Eh, in 2008, the car was a $45k vehicle, but now? No way. Not when we have camaros and mustangs absolutely slaying it for much less. Back in 2008, you needed a P car, Cobra, or corvette to tear it up. Even as late as 2014 or so the mustang lacked irs, etc. and the camaro sucked. Now? The Z is just a fanboy car. Nothing wrong with that if you're a fanboy, and thats okay, but it has no curremt selling points from a technical stance.

ImportConvert · 06-03-2019, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

Some people should stop and think about what it actually takes to develop a brand new car and how much that costs. When you sell more mustangs in one year than Nissan has sold of the 370z since 2009, there is a lot less to invest in future models. Ford can sell enough to invest in a new mustang every 5 years or so. Nissan maybe waiting to make return investment before investing into a new Z.

So? Screw them. Who in this thread holds Nissan stock? If they can't get with it, why do they deserve an excuse and a charity sale?

NISMO IX · 06-03-2019, 11:32 AM

Sounds like I struck a nerve, not my intent. Purpose of my comparison was simply for sales figures only. The fact that people compare the Z to a muscle car, pony car and SEDAN, is absurd. When you compare apples to apples performance wise and in the same category, the Z is STILL a good buy for what you get. The Z was never intended to be a muscle car equivalent. And if they did, I personally would move on from the Z, and buy a sports car/grand tourer.

ImportConvert · 06-03-2019, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

Sounds like I struck a nerve, not my intent. Purpose of my comparison was simply for sales figures only. The fact that people compare the Z to a muscle car, pony car and SEDAN, is absurd. When you compare apples to apples performance wise and in the same category, the Z is STILL a good buy for what you get. The Z was never intended to be a muscle car equivalent. And if they did, I personally would move on from the Z, and buy a sports car/grand tourer.

The Z at 45k is within several grand of the new Supra...

06-02-2019, 03:30 PM	#97 (permalink)
ChopsZ Track Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central Florida Age: 49 Posts: 965 Drives: 2016 370Z GM 6MT Rep Power: 2301	I didn't read this entire thread, but did anyone catch the part where he said there was a "subwoofer where the spare should be, but there's no spare"? He didn't even bother to look a little deeper/better to see that the sub is mounted to the spare. Things like this and all the other stuff mentioned in this thread is precisely why I never pay attention to reviewers no matter what it is. If I want to read reviews on something, I dig up random forums and sites online where actual people like you and me post up our actual experiences with the product. That's where you get your most accurate reviews, not some a$$ clown who thinks he knows what he's talking about and makes a living off of it. Sway, MplsPete, ShuuraRG and 1 others like this. __________________ She's For Sale! PERFORMANCE: Aero Workz \| Akebono \| BC Racing \| EcuTek \| HKS \| MaxBore \| Motordyne \| Nismo \| RJM \| SPL \| StopTech \| Z1 AUDIO: Arc Audio \| Bazooka \| Helix \| Pioneer \| Stereo Integrity

06-02-2019, 04:18 PM	#98 (permalink)
NISMO IX Track Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southern Maine Age: 47 Posts: 742 Drives: 2014 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 584	You figure a "professional" review would include research before doing the review. Just so you don't come across like a dumbass. The fact that a few things he said sound like diarrhea. Also, I guess I am one of those true sports car type guys though, I mean, who needs electric seats and sound deadening material because of "road noise", only to spoil the ride by adding weight. Then have "reviewers" complain about the Z being too heavy for a sports car. There has always been hate by most reviewers on this car. People should make thier own opinion by test driving one before judging on some else's biased diarrhea, erm, review. vtec to vvel and MZ DAIZY like this. __________________ 2017 Ford Focus RS Nitrous Blue "KB43VER" 2014 370z Mag Blk 6M "KOKURYU" (Black Dragon)

06-02-2019, 11:57 PM	#101 (permalink)
NISMO IX Track Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southern Maine Age: 47 Posts: 742 Drives: 2014 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 584	Some people should stop and think about what it actually takes to develop a brand new car and how much that costs. When you sell more mustangs in one year than Nissan has sold of the 370z since 2009, there is a lot less to invest in future models. Ford can sell enough to invest in a new mustang every 5 years or so. Nissan maybe waiting to make return investment before investing into a new Z. __________________ 2017 Ford Focus RS Nitrous Blue "KB43VER" 2014 370z Mag Blk 6M "KOKURYU" (Black Dragon)

06-03-2019, 11:32 AM	#104 (permalink)
NISMO IX Track Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southern Maine Age: 47 Posts: 742 Drives: 2014 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 584	Sounds like I struck a nerve, not my intent. Purpose of my comparison was simply for sales figures only. The fact that people compare the Z to a muscle car, pony car and SEDAN, is absurd. When you compare apples to apples performance wise and in the same category, the Z is STILL a good buy for what you get. The Z was never intended to be a muscle car equivalent. And if they did, I personally would move on from the Z, and buy a sports car/grand tourer. MZ DAIZY likes this. __________________ 2017 Ford Focus RS Nitrous Blue "KB43VER" 2014 370z Mag Blk 6M "KOKURYU" (Black Dragon)

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