2020 Z....opinions

HEK · 05-17-2019, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The Z was one of the greatest sports cars of its generation. 2009-2014. The 2015 Nismo should have just been the 2015 Z. The price should have been lowered to $42k for a nav model and that one model sold. It was the closest thing to being the next model up.

If we were gonna keep the lower units? I think the sport model should've heen the base model by 2015 for base pricing and the touring model should have remained with the sport pkg for$35k. No more base model. That would've kinda made more of a business case to elevate sales volume and overall enthusiasm for the Z while destroying the business case for selling such a weak powered FRS, thus forcing Toyota to build a more powerful FRS and work harder for a higher hp supra. Like 400hp.

On Japan's side the hp wars are over which kinda crippled the jdm sports car industry.

While the Z is still an awesome car and the GTR is the best OVERPRICED car on the market. I think Nissan and japan as a whole have been a disappointment.

I'm grateful for the supra but I'm hoping this car sells well and morphs into something grand.

I hope Nissan is honest in saying they will build an in house Z without aid of another company and show us that they still love heritage.

So in my conclusion. While I believe the Z34 itself is one of the best sports cars of the millennium. It's also outdated, outgunned and outperformed by very generic vehicles at this point. It's lasted too long. We need something competitive.

Well I'm glad I'm an old fart who owns an antiquated vehicle that runs great and still turns heads and best of all has a standard transmission

Ommateal · 05-20-2019, 12:20 AM

I was a teenager when all the fast and furious 2000s **** kicked off... SO I have a huge softspot for gaudy decals/wraps/paint But for some reason im really not liking the way they did them on the 50th anniversary car... It looks like someone took a base model and just slapped some rice paint/decals or whatever on it, Im sure some color schemes are better then others though.

HEK · 05-20-2019, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ommateal

I was a teenager when all the fast and furious 2000s **** kicked off... SO I have a huge softspot for gaudy decals/wraps/paint But for some reason im really not liking the way they did them on the 50th anniversary car... It looks like someone took a base model and just slapped some rice paint/decals or whatever on it, Im sure some color schemes are better then others though.

.......and they are expensive based on the price of the vehicle w/out navi or sports package...

Desert Rat · 05-28-2019, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ommateal

I was a teenager when all the fast and furious 2000s **** kicked off... SO I have a huge softspot for gaudy decals/wraps/paint But for some reason im really not liking the way they did them on the 50th anniversary car... It looks like someone took a base model and just slapped some rice paint/decals or whatever on it, Im sure some color schemes are better then others though.

They were building Z31s when I was a teenager....lol

abm89 · 05-28-2019, 05:09 PM

Since we're on opinions here, I think they should just kill the Z. No one is buying them, and they're not looking like they are going to put the VR30 in the car. I get that it's a last "analog" car with it's manual transmission, port injection, and basic gauges, but at some point, the car itself is just plain outdated.

If I were in the market for a sports car now, I'd likely get a Supra. I'd go for the overall balance of performance and core experience of the car as a whole vs looking at features. Give me a base model with only the "performance" upgrades and i'm ready to go. I would likely modify it anyway, and I love how Toyota has set it up to do that; reinforced trunk lid, air flow that can be unblocked when necessary, and early access to the tuning companies (who already have some parts in working prototypes for the car). There would be no way I would even consider buying a new Z.

I care more about how the car over/understeers way more than whether I have to use a clutch to change gears, but It's all down to your priorities. You either adapt or get left behind.

Lvcky69 · 05-31-2019, 12:16 PM

yeah, i wouldn't go for the 2020. They haven't changed anything, same cluster, etc. Nowadays every car has a digital cluster. The cluster on the Z looks outdated compared to other cars. Thankfully I already have another car if I were to sell the Z to get a different car. I'm thinking of 16-17 vette grand sport

Tractionless · 07-07-2019, 03:06 PM

Hopefully all the rave reviews of the new Supra being Toyota's best drivers car ever forces Nissan's hand to do a thorough rework of the Z.

StormWhite · 07-07-2019, 05:22 PM

I am not trying to be be defensive but the 370Z is still one of the best looking cars IMHO.

axmea? · 07-08-2019, 02:20 AM

Nissan will put out a Z34 with a VR30DDTT call it a 300ZTT and then kill the program.

abm89 · 07-08-2019, 11:26 AM

Since these are opinions, I would rather have a 2020 Supra over the Z at this point.

If I had excessive amounts of money, I'd go for a 718 GT4.

PaulZ370 · 07-08-2019, 12:13 PM

I am amazed... "Kill the Z.." Wow. Sell yours Buddy, you don't deserve it. Why not buy a BRZ,FRS, XYZ or LMNOP or something like that. I think you'd be happier. Then move on to their website and spare us Z Enthusiasts please.

Back to Point, I think the Sport/Touring Model is now re-labeled as the 50th Anniversary. I just checked on the NissanUSA website and you can pick up a 50th Anniversary Manual Tranny with the Synchro-Rev Match as well as leather appointed interior, Bigger Brakes and 19" Ray's... No Fear, it's just a labeling issue, but it's still there...

MZ DAIZY · 07-08-2019, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by abm89

Since these are opinions, I would rather have a 2020 Supra over the Z at this point.

If I had excessive amounts of money, I'd go for a 718 GT4.

I realize “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” but the Supra fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

Seriously... that thing is FUGLY!

Before I plunked down 50 large for that rolling turd, I’d put $25,000 into my Z and never look back.

My Daizy puts out the same numbers, looks a ton cooler and cost me $20,000 less. I don’t need digital gizmos. I actually like the analog gauges.

mishuko · 07-08-2019, 01:40 PM

47k msrp for nismo or 65msrp (base supra)

Hmmm plus first year quirks. Yea pass

vtec to vvel · 07-09-2019, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HEK

Being retired and bored, I just went to the Nissan site and tried to build an exact vehicle like mine and to my surprise, there are no Sport /Touring with manual transmissions....why? ( I know most of you will say...."because Nissan can").
I think that should increase the value of those of us who have manuals, sports/ touring, don't you think so.
Personally, I wouldn't replace my vehicle with a newer one if all I could only get was with an automatic transmission, just my opinion.

Though having a manual tranny will not increase the market value of the vehicle, I do believe it will increase the sentimental value and people will pay top dollar and way more than what it’s worth if equipped with a manual tranny. I think the 370Z will fall into this category.

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Originally Posted by Cyber370

All manual transmission sports cars will be sought after and desirable in the future.

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I can speak from experience on this. I went from a 6MT 350Z to a 7AT 370Z and now a 6MT 370Z bc I missed the manual tranny so much.

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

There will always be a group that will want a manual trans. But that group seems to be getting smaller and smaller as time goes on.

In the past, the three main reasons to buy a manual were: greater durability, more gas mileage, and more fun. New autos have all but done away with the first two. Laziness is working on number three.

I've gotten pretty lazy - I haven't had a manual vehicle in about a decade (last one was a '67 Mustang that I sold to make room for the 2009 Z I had).

There is a meme out there with a picture of a manual gearbox and labeled as “the best anti-theft system”.

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Originally Posted by HEK

You can still get the Nismo with all the touring and sports goodies with a stick...maybe they needed to increase the Nismo sales...

I think Nissan made a mistake producing auto Nismo models. Honda doesn’t even make auto for their Si lineup.

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Originally Posted by Tractionless

Hopefully all the rave reviews of the new Supra being Toyota's best drivers car ever forces Nissan's hand to do a thorough rework of the Z.

it’s a bmw badged under a Toyota. I personally am not a fan of German cars.

MZ DAIZY · 07-09-2019, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89

Since these are opinions, I would rather have a 2020 Supra over the Z at this point.

05-20-2019, 12:20 AM	#17 (permalink)
Ommateal Base Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Dover, Ohio. Age: 37 Posts: 209 Drives: 2010 370z sport 6m Rep Power: 10	I was a teenager when all the fast and furious 2000s **** kicked off... SO I have a huge softspot for gaudy decals/wraps/paint But for some reason im really not liking the way they did them on the 50th anniversary car... It looks like someone took a base model and just slapped some rice paint/decals or whatever on it, Im sure some color schemes are better then others though. StormWhite likes this. __________________ Red 370z Sport 6m Mods: Stillen 25 row Race Oil cooler\|FIXED ESCL\|Muffler delete\|TEIN Springs\|Tint\|Varrstoen ES2 Rims\|NRG Stealth Knob\|Kenwood touchscreen\|

05-28-2019, 05:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,386 Drives: 11 370Z \| 24 EL450 Rep Power: 64763	Since we're on opinions here, I think they should just kill the Z. No one is buying them, and they're not looking like they are going to put the VR30 in the car. I get that it's a last "analog" car with it's manual transmission, port injection, and basic gauges, but at some point, the car itself is just plain outdated. If I were in the market for a sports car now, I'd likely get a Supra. I'd go for the overall balance of performance and core experience of the car as a whole vs looking at features. Give me a base model with only the "performance" upgrades and i'm ready to go. I would likely modify it anyway, and I love how Toyota has set it up to do that; reinforced trunk lid, air flow that can be unblocked when necessary, and early access to the tuning companies (who already have some parts in working prototypes for the car). There would be no way I would even consider buying a new Z. I care more about how the car over/understeers way more than whether I have to use a clutch to change gears, but It's all down to your priorities. You either adapt or get left behind. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

07-07-2019, 03:06 PM	#22 (permalink)
Tractionless A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Atlantic SE Posts: 1,326 Drives: '10 K23 ST 7AT Rep Power: 30525	Hopefully all the rave reviews of the new Supra being Toyota's best drivers car ever forces Nissan's hand to do a thorough rework of the Z. critical and StormWhite like this. __________________ Toys Not Tots

07-07-2019, 05:22 PM	#23 (permalink)
StormWhite Base Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 225 Drives: 2017 370Z Coupe Rep Power: 74894	I am not trying to be be defensive but the 370Z is still one of the best looking cars IMHO. HEK, PaulZ370, axmea? and 5 others like this.

07-08-2019, 02:20 AM	#24 (permalink)
axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,236 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53241	Nissan will put out a Z34 with a VR30DDTT call it a 300ZTT and then kill the program. Rusty and abm89 like this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

05-31-2019, 12:16 PM	#21 (permalink)
Lvcky69 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Miami Posts: 385 Drives: 17 370z & 16 911 S Rep Power: 3922	yeah, i wouldn't go for the 2020. They haven't changed anything, same cluster, etc. Nowadays every car has a digital cluster. The cluster on the Z looks outdated compared to other cars. Thankfully I already have another car if I were to sell the Z to get a different car. I'm thinking of 16-17 vette grand sport

07-08-2019, 11:26 AM	#25 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,386 Drives: 11 370Z \| 24 EL450 Rep Power: 64763	Since these are opinions, I would rather have a 2020 Supra over the Z at this point. If I had excessive amounts of money, I'd go for a 718 GT4. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

07-08-2019, 12:13 PM	#26 (permalink)
PaulZ370 Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Covington, LA Posts: 956 Drives: 011 370 BSM/T/SP/6MT Rep Power: 16	I am amazed... "Kill the Z.." Wow. Sell yours Buddy, you don't deserve it. Why not buy a BRZ,FRS, XYZ or LMNOP or something like that. I think you'd be happier. Then move on to their website and spare us Z Enthusiasts please. Back to Point, I think the Sport/Touring Model is now re-labeled as the 50th Anniversary. I just checked on the NissanUSA website and you can pick up a 50th Anniversary Manual Tranny with the Synchro-Rev Match as well as leather appointed interior, Bigger Brakes and 19" Ray's... No Fear, it's just a labeling issue, but it's still there... Love2Drive likes this. __________________ *BD2ZBN :: 2011 BSM/TRG/SP/6MT/Stillen Oil Cooler/K&N CAI/Michelin PSS/Brake Light/EIBACH Sway Bars/FI Res. HFC+18" Res. CBE/Morimoto XB LED/DRLs/10mm Spacers*

07-08-2019, 01:40 PM	#28 (permalink)
mishuko A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: bouncin on tigga Posts: 8,062 Drives: '12 Z Rep Power: 9435	47k msrp for nismo or 65msrp (base supra) Hmmm plus first year quirks. Yea pass Zingston likes this.

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