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Would I be crazy to track my stock 135K mile Z?

To answer your question, you would be crazy...crazy like a fox.

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Old 05-10-2019, 01:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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To answer your question, you would be crazy...crazy like a fox.
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a Viper is probably very high on the list of "worst cars" for a novice to start with

a Civic Si or something is probably safe

an EVO or STI is pretty much impossible to spin, right?

i had a KA24DE powered S14 when i went to the track. That thing made no power, it forced you to learn how to drive properly
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a Viper is probably very high on the list of "worst cars" for a novice to start with

a Civic Si or something is probably safe

an EVO or STI is pretty much impossible to spin, right?

i had a KA24DE powered S14 when i went to the track. That thing made no power, it forced you to learn how to drive properly
I can tell you from unfortunate first-hand experience that AWD cars can be spun if the idiot at the wheel I dumb enough, i.e. I nearly spun an Audi on track lol.
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I can tell you from unfortunate first-hand experience that AWD cars can be spun if the idiot at the wheel I dumb enough, i.e. I nearly spun an Audi on track lol.
those damned STI and EVOs come with super sticky tires stock, don't they?

I recall some really n00b drivers driving pretty quickly and i was thinking the whole time . . . the car is doing so much of the work bc even without the best line, they just have so much grip they maintain speed

meanwhile my 155 hp n/a 240sx has to be driven like a damned miata to keep momentum up

FYI this was on Thunder Hill and Infineon

i really love infineon, those elevation changes are something when you first start

back in high school i heard of a dude that switched from a 300ZX TT to an MR2 turbo. he drove it the same way and crashed the damned thing immediately, lmao. Going from a 3800 lb RWD car to a 2800 lb MR car . . . yeah
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those damned STI and EVOs come with super sticky tires stock, don't they?

I recall some really n00b drivers driving pretty quickly and i was thinking the whole time . . . the car is doing so much of the work bc even without the best line, they just have so much grip they maintain speed

meanwhile my 155 hp n/a 240sx has to be driven like a damned miata to keep momentum up

FYI this was on Thunder Hill and Infineon

i really love infineon, those elevation changes are something when you first start

back in high school i heard of a dude that switched from a 300ZX TT to an MR2 turbo. he drove it the same way and crashed the damned thing immediately, lmao. Going from a 3800 lb RWD car to a 2800 lb MR car . . . yeah

Yeah, I had terrible tires haha. Interestingly it was at T-hill too. I think the stock tires on the STI and EVOs are indeed pretty sticky, but the average person running all seasons who is getting into tracking will be surprised to find the ability to spin I'm sure.
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a Viper is probably very high on the list of "worst cars" for a novice to start with

a Civic Si or something is probably safe

an EVO or STI is pretty much impossible to spin, right?

i had a KA24DE powered S14 when i went to the track. That thing made no power, it forced you to learn how to drive properly
Indeed a Viper is. I've driven a couple of them on the track. It's a car that can be very rewarding or down right frightening. In the right hands, a stock ACR will break lap records, or kill a noob.

The Z is a good car to learn in. It's well balance, has enough power to get you in trouble, will reward you with a good lap. And it WILL suck you down the rabbit hole.


I've seen the Civic Si, EVO, STI have their moments going off the track. You can spin anything on the track if you try hard enough. Nothing like feeling when you spin 180. And you are looking eyeball to eyeball with the guy behind you. The look on both your faces. His eyes and your eyes are big as dinner plates. Back in the pits. You ask the guy if he got it on video. He says no, he forgot to turn on his GoPro. I said I got it. Only to find out that the battery died about 5 minutes before.

A good handling slow car will teach you more things than a fast car will. What you learn with the slow car will help you later in the fast car.

I road raced 1000cc motorcycles back in the late '70's and early '80's. Then started doing trackdays with motorcycles in early 2000. When I got my Z. I started doing trackdays with it. Had no trouble switching from 2 wheels to 4 wheels.
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Indeed a Viper is. I've driven a couple of them on the track. It's a car that can be very rewarding or down right frightening. In the right hands, a stock ACR will break lap records, or kill a noob.

The Z is a good car to learn in. It's well balance, has enough power to get you in trouble, will reward you with a good lap. And it WILL suck you down the rabbit hole.


I've seen the Civic Si, EVO, STI have their moments going off the track. You can spin anything on the track if you try hard enough. Nothing like feeling when you spin 180. And you are looking eyeball to eyeball with the guy behind you. The look on both your faces. His eyes and your eyes are big as dinner plates. Back in the pits. You ask the guy if he got it on video. He says no, he forgot to turn on his GoPro. I said I got it. Only to find out that the battery died about 5 minutes before.

A good handling slow car will teach you more things than a fast car will. What you learn with the slow car will help you later in the fast car.

I road raced 1000cc motorcycles back in the late '70's and early '80's. Then started doing trackdays with motorcycles in early 2000. When I got my Z. I started doing trackdays with it. Had no trouble switching from 2 wheels to 4 wheels.
i have to confess i spun the S14 myself. just way too fast into the hairpin area

thank goodness i didn't catch any wall (which they had put tires in front whew)
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