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Rusty 05-09-2019 03:55 PM

SennaZ, you should have posted this in the track section. You would have more support there. EVERYONE HERE is so negative. :mad: PISS ME OFF! Go track you car. Enjoy the day. Learn from it. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Most likely you will have an instructor with you in the beginner group. Take notes, and pictures. If you get bit by the track bug. Then welcome to the rabbit hole and melted credit cards. :driving:

A few things you need to do first. Flush your brake fluid. Change oil and filter. Don't know when you changed the diff and tranny fluid, but it would be a good idea. Check your brake pads. You should have more then half pad. Anything less, change them. YellowStuff is a good DD/ beginner track pad. What condition are your tires?
Wrap insulation around your clutch line down by the exhaust. This will help to keep the heat from the fluid and boiling it.

Limiting factors.
Oil cooler. Don't be surprised if and when you hit limp mode.
Fuel starve. Some will get it. Some will never get it. There is no rhyme or reason on who gets it, and who don't. To keep from getting it. Keep your fuel tank full.

OptionZero 05-09-2019 03:59 PM

uh . . i'd want at minimum:

- if not NEW tires, some replacement ones with alot of grip left,
- new pads/rotors
- brake fluid
- tranny fluid
- oil cooler
- helmet
- check all safety equipment

Rusty 05-09-2019 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 3851020)

That article is 9 years old. A lot has happened and a lot of knowledge gained since then.

JARblue 05-09-2019 04:52 PM

C&D boiled the stock brake fluid trying to set lap records. They are idiots :shakes head:

Rusty 05-09-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3851070)
C&D boiled the stock brake fluid trying to set lap records. They are idiots :shakes head:

:iagree:

Eagle 05-09-2019 06:13 PM

No, you're not crazy at all for wanting to do that.

This would be my checklist for a first timer...
  1. Change brake fluid and clutch fluid to a high temp one (Motul 660, Brembo LCF, Brembo HTC 64 are some good options)
  2. Make sure tires have some life left in them
  3. Upgrading brake pads would be great but for your first time, you should be fine with OEM sport pads and rotors as long as they are still in good shape
  4. Buy a helmet after you figure out that this is something you're going to want to do long term. You can get by with a rental or borrow one from a friend in the mean time.
  5. Bring a tire pressure gauge, you're going to want to keep an eye on those throughout the day

If you're planning on going to Laguna Seca, I'm heading there at the end of June with Speed Ventures i'll be running June 29th, i'd be glad to meet you and help you pop your track cherry :icon17:

If you want to get out there sooner at a more local track join or check out Nissan Challenge. We're going to be at Chuckwalla Raceway on May 25th, we'll be on break for a few months and then we'll be back after a summer break at Willow Springs in September

alcheng 05-09-2019 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3851051)
That article is 9 years old. A lot has happened and a lot of knowledge gained since then.

You are right, a lot of knowledge has gained since then, but the hardware of the Z is pretty much the same as 9 years ago.


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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3851070)
C&D boiled the stock brake fluid trying to set lap records. They are idiots :shakes head:

ugh.... apparently they use 22 bone stock car to do the hot laps... every year...

Here is the original article of the event with Z is the only one has the accident..

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ning-lap-2009/



While I agree some of you say the OP should/can track the car and have fun on the limit..

meanwhile, the OP also states his Z is bone stock except with the Powertrix Coils.


The reason I dig up that 9 years old article and post it here is I saw

"I have a sport package Z with 135k on it. Only mods are Powertrix coils. It's all stock otherwise. No oil cooler, and pretty sure it's original clutch too, the csc was replaced 100K miles ago."

in the original post..


that connect me to that incident 9 years ago...

of cause many of us has offered suggestions/advices, which is great..

however, if the OP doesn't make those changes on his stock Z...

again, his bone stock Z with sports package is carrying similar hardware to the Z which had accident 9 years ago.


It's only a precaution to the OP, nothing else. :tiphat:

Eagle 05-10-2019 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 3851155)
You are right, a lot of knowledge has gained since then, but the hardware of the Z is pretty much the same as 9 years ago.




ugh.... apparently they use 22 bone stock car to do the hot laps... every year...

Here is the original article of the event with Z is the only one has the accident..

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ning-lap-2009/



While I agree some of you say the OP should/can track the car and have fun on the limit..

meanwhile, the OP also states his Z is bone stock except with the Powertrix Coils.


The reason I dig up that 9 years old article and post it here is I saw

"I have a sport package Z with 135k on it. Only mods are Powertrix coils. It's all stock otherwise. No oil cooler, and pretty sure it's original clutch too, the csc was replaced 100K miles ago."

in the original post..


that connect me to that incident 9 years ago...

of cause many of us has offered suggestions/advices, which is great..

however, if the OP doesn't make those changes on his stock Z...

again, his bone stock Z with sports package is carrying similar hardware to the Z which had accident 9 years ago.


It's only a precaution to the OP, nothing else. :tiphat:

2011 370Z Touring + Sport. Almost stock. Hotchkis front sway bar. Brake fluids. Cold air intake. OEM brake pads. If this car and I survived an entire track day in the heat in California, I am fairly certain his car will be fine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLXn07uVMCo

The key is the brake fluid. The reason that incident happened in the article is not necessarily because of the pads. It's most likely because of the fluid, it boiled. When it boils, you dont have enough pressure in the lines to get sufficient force out of the calipers. If the driver does that enough then the pads are eventually going to heat up and fade as well. But most beginners aren't capable of that.

Rusty 05-10-2019 06:59 AM

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I did my first couple of trackdays with a bone stock car. Then I was bitten and started to change things. :driving:

We all said to change the brake fluid too.

mishuko 05-10-2019 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3851200)
I did my first couple of trackdays with a bone stock car. Then I was bitten and started to change things. :driving:

We all said to change the brake fluid too.

I mean he doesn't have to and find out when he ends up banking a wall.

Shoeshear 05-10-2019 10:59 AM

I also agree w/ fluid flush. TBH, I don't think you need to switch to the super high temp stuff. I picked up DOT 4 at a local shop and bled the whole system a couple days before my track days. I would highly recommend a decent set of pads as well. I went w/ project mu pads, no regrets. I would really recommend against EBC yellow. My dad and friend used them and they glazed their rotors within the first two sessions. Only common thing between them were the pads. My PMU pads held fantastically though. :D

Rusty 05-10-2019 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3851206)
I mean he doesn't have to and find out when he ends up banking a wall.

I never hit the wall. And I bet I was a lot more aggressive my first time out then he will be. :driving:

Rusty 05-10-2019 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeshear (Post 3851282)
I also agree w/ fluid flush. TBH, I don't think you need to switch to the super high temp stuff. I picked up DOT 4 at a local shop and bled the whole system a couple days before my track days. I would highly recommend a decent set of pads as well. I went w/ project mu pads, no regrets. I would really recommend against EBC yellow. My dad and friend used them and they glazed their rotors within the first two sessions. Only common thing between them were the pads. My PMU pads held fantastically though. :D

I used them for a whole year and never glazed the Yellowstuff.

AestheticCM1 05-10-2019 01:47 PM

To answer your question, you would be crazy...crazy like a fox.

Eagle 05-10-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3851206)
I mean he doesn't have to and find out when he ends up banking a wall.

If you're a beginner and you've found the wall, chances are it wasn't the brake pads that were the problem :rolleyes:


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