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Originally Posted by quadsbaby Just so you guys know, the speedbooster/sprintbooster thing is just an amplifier... i.e. Pressing the gas pedal in 2/3 of the way without speedbooster gives you

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Old 01-08-2010, 10:23 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Just so you guys know, the speedbooster/sprintbooster thing is just an amplifier... i.e. Pressing the gas pedal in 2/3 of the way without speedbooster gives you 2/3 power, with speedbooster gives you full throttle. If you're pushing the pedal down at full speed, the difference between going 2/3 of the way and all the way is usually less than .1 seconds. The only reason people think their engines are more responsive is because they are getting throttle response before the pedal hits the floor. In other words, the "speed"booster doesn't really speed up anything at all.

If you really want something that essentially puts all of your throttle response in the first 2/3 of travel (increasing sensitivity, but decreasing "feel"), then by all means, go ahead. But understand that the circuitry required to do this (essentially a voltage multiplier on the signal the pedal sends to the ECU) costs maybe $20 at most.

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wow thanks for explaining it, now it makes sense

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When downshifting with the SyncRev Sport Pkg the RPM's will hold momentarily on an up shift and rev match on a down shift allowing for a smooth transition . I have found the "slight" throttle response delay isn't as apparent as you cycle thru the gears. I haven't tried the Booster thing but might run by for the free demo they offer on their website. It is about an hour drive but...it would be a good excuse to make a little road trip. The more I drive my Z the less it bothers me but there is a short learning curve if it has been a few days since I've had it on the road and driven my work car (the Saturn).

the problem is that i dont use the syncro rev lol. i only used it for a week and then i turned it off.
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I've heard it takes time for the light of the sun to reach the earth. Is there a way to speed up the speed of light because I read on the internet that if the speed of light can be increased it will make my magnetic black Z look shinier. I don't think it works for any other Z colours but probably someone here in can chime in and confirm this?
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I've heard it takes time for the light of the sun to reach the earth. Is there a way to speed up the speed of light because I read on the internet that if the speed of light can be increased it will make my magnetic black Z look shinier. I don't think it works for any other Z colours but probably someone here in can chime in and confirm this?
Yes - you just need to twin-turbo Light itself. More power = faster....amirite?
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Yes - you just need to twin-turbo Light itself. More power = faster....amirite?
The problem is right now it seems like we can only power the TT to go about 99,000 mph which is not fast enough to keep up with the light and effectively TT it.

However, Nissan has developed triangular airplane wing thingies that should help get those TT's up to 186,000mph to latch onto the light waves and boost them. Nissan engineers have installed these TAWTs on select 370Zs.
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The problem is right now it seems like we can only power the TT to go about 99,000 mph which is not fast enough to keep up with the light and effectively TT it.

However, Nissan has developed triangular airplane wing thingies that should help get those TT's up to 186,000mph to latch onto the light waves and boost them. Nissan engineers have installed these TAWTs on select 370Zs.
So we'd have a 370ZTTTAWT, effectively boosting the speed of light and giving us shinier cars?

My god...TO THE PATENT OFFICE!
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So we'd have a 370ZTTTAWT, effectively boosting the speed of light and giving us shinier cars?

My god...TO THE PATENT OFFICE!
So shiny Dubai will be jealous.
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i came from an auto civic. i jumped to a 370z nismo. first time driving a manual too but i learned in a weekend. on monday i had to go to work so i had no choice but man it out. just be careful and get used to spinning the wheel for couple days.
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regarding the starting on a hill: let out the clutch a bit before you let go of the brake, that way its very close to the point of engagement and you can just gas it without rolling back as much.

or you can just roll back until you hit the car behind you. then once you can't roll back anymore you start to give it gas.
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I must say the best way to learn would be to hire a rental manual car and practice.

Save your own clutch...

I find the Z has a tough clutch (yes i know there are tougher out there, my friend's custom supra clutch is murder...) compared to my previous car, the polo gti and that had a tougher clutch than the average everyday car. From this perspective i'd imagine learning to use a manual on the z would be a sobering experiance. Not impossible but more unpleasant than it should be.

Remember however that once you get good at the z clutch, the normal cars out there become extremely easy.
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Only manual transmition experience i had was like 10 years ago in a girlfriend's Corolla i drove like twice, so I basically learned on the Z. So yes it can be done but like everyone has said, the clutch is not friendly.
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I must say the best way to learn would be to hire a rental manual car and practice.

Save your own clutch...

I find the Z has a tough clutch (yes i know there are tougher out there, my friend's custom supra clutch is murder...) compared to my previous car, the polo gti and that had a tougher clutch than the average everyday car. From this perspective i'd imagine learning to use a manual on the z would be a sobering experiance. Not impossible but more unpleasant than it should be.

Remember however that once you get good at the z clutch, the normal cars out there become extremely easy.
Other than some of the specialty rentals that have exotic cars, what rental car agencies have a good supply of manual transmission vehicles?
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I can't be bothered with reading the other responses, but I don't think driving a stick is any easier/harder in one car versus another. I've driven a lot of manuals in cars, and they are all pretty much the same. Some have more "slop" to allow for error, but I wouldn't call that easier to drive per se. Only thing that was somewhat tricky was driving an old full size uhaul.

As for learning to drive stick, it would be nice if you had a buddy with a junker you could practice on; but I learned on a car I had just bought and never did grind the gears. Stalled out a couple times though
I saw "rental car" somewhere in here. I don't know of any people who rent manuals
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regarding the starting on a hill: let out the clutch a bit before you let go of the brake, that way its very close to the point of engagement and you can just gas it without rolling back as much.

or you can just roll back until you hit the car behind you. then once you can't roll back anymore you start to give it gas.
Easiest way is holding up the handbrake and release the clutch as you would normally and when you feel the car pull on the handbrake you release it.

no need for instant jumping to gas before omg I crash into somebody

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