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Zalot 04-13-2019 06:33 AM

Am I Crazy? Mod List and feedback
 
Soon after buying a brand new nismo I started having the hyper mod bug syndrome. I am starting to think down the road when all is set and done if i should have just gotten a used gtr or continue down this path. Here is a very short list as of now

(4100) Te37 wheels including center cap cover and rays hubring (4100)
(230). R40 Iconix Lug nuts
(350). Set of pressure sensor Autel maxi tpms ts508
(1200) Brand new michelin pilot tires
(1300) Brand new michelin winter tires
(370). Diff cover plus gear motul fluid/Spl diff solid bushing that i then replaced with whiteline poly
(70). 3 extra motul diff gear oil to reflush after break in
(98). whiteline poly bushing
(150). Z1 subframe collar
(1900) Motordyne shockwave
(155) Phillips X-treme Vision bulb
(114) K&N drop in filter
(140). Raceseng ahift knob
(260). Windows tint
(50). Dress up bolts

Which puts me over 10k at the moment and im not even close halfway through my build. This puts me over 50k already including the car plus mod. Im at the brand new supra territory now and im starting to second guess myself. I value your opinion and thanks in advance.

Zingston 04-13-2019 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalot (Post 3843038)
Soon after buying a brand new nismo I started having the hyper mod bug syndrome. I am starting to think down the road when all is set and done if i should have just gotten a used gtr or continue down this path. Here is a very short list as of now

Te37 wheels
R40 Iconix Lug nuts
Set of pressure sensor
Autel maxi tpms ts508
Brand new michelin pilot tires
Brand new michelin winter tires
Diff cover plus gear fluid
Spl diff solid bushing that i then replaced with white line poly bushing
Z1 subframe collar
Motordyne shockwave
Phillips X-treme Vision bulb
K&N drop in filter
Raceseng ahift knob
Windows tint
Dress up bolts

Which puts me over 10k at the moment and im not even close halfway through my build. This puts me over 50k already including the car plus mod. Im at the brand new supra territory now and im starting to second guess myself. I value your opinion and thanks in advance.


Zalot meet rabbit hole. Rabbit hole meet Zalot.

It happens,..

NorthStyle 04-13-2019 08:20 AM

How are those mods over $10K? I can see where you spent around $5-6K~ish for the wheels/tires and overpriced Motordyne exhaust, but not sure where the other $4K went... You need to learn to search for sales and part outs otherwise you're doing yourself (and your wallet) a great disservice.

Zalot 04-13-2019 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NorthStyle (Post 3843075)
How are those mods over $10K? I can see where you spent around $5-6K~ish for the wheels/tires and overpriced Motordyne exhaust, but not sure where the other $4K went... You need to learn to search for sales and part outs otherwise you're doing yourself (and your wallet) a great disservice.

Buddy, i edited my post so you could see im already at 10373 and im sure im still missing few parts plus the sipping i paid for few items i did not include on the price. The winter tire also i already got a good deal for them. Got them as clearance. My winter set is same spec as the stock size tire which is 245 front and 285 rear.

Nixin 04-13-2019 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Zalot (Post 3843078)
Buddy, i edited my post so you could see im already at 10373 and im sure im still missing few parts plus the sipping i paid for few items i did not include on the price. The winter tire also i already got a good deal for them. Got them as clearance. My winter set is same spec as the stock size tire which is 245 front and 285 rear.

You need to down size your winter tires, 225 max.

Zalot 04-13-2019 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixin (Post 3843080)
You need to down size your winter tires, 225 max.

Maybe next time i cant justify buying another set at the moment

cv129 04-13-2019 09:04 AM

Mod bug aka rabbit hole will mostly bite the same way with a more expensive car. You ain’t gonna keep the Supra stock, and next thing you know you’ll be in the $70k range.

OFF TOPIC: ever heard about the Ft86/FRS recall fiasco, where the Toyota techs screwed the pooch leading to multiple catastrophic engine failure? Have fun with having Toyota guys deal with a BMW engine lol.

Edit: just saw you came from an 86

CRiZO 04-13-2019 09:04 AM

Well, you would have bought a GTR or Supra and modded that too. And those mods would cost even more. And that's a pretty tame list.

BettyZ 04-13-2019 09:10 AM

Been there done that... with what I put into my Nismo the first year, I could have paid it off entirely. What's the point of owning a car if you can't tinker with it? #noragrets.

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Zalot 04-13-2019 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3843085)
Mod bug aka rabbit hole will mostly bite the same way with a more expensive car. You ain’t gonna keep the Supra stock, and next thing you know you’ll be in the $70k range.

OFF TOPIC: ever heard about the Ft86/FRS recall fiasco, where the Toyota techs screwed the pooch leading to multiple catastrophic engine failure? Have fun with having Toyota guys deal with a BMW engine lol.

Edit: just saw you came from an 86

I heard about the recall i also spent a good fortune on that car. I could have had a gtr by now if i pour those money plus with what i spent with the 370z but i have no regrets so far just second thoughts

Spooler 04-13-2019 10:38 AM

Tires are not mods. They are maintenance items. You can take them off your list.

Zalot 04-13-2019 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3843111)
Tires are not mods. They are maintenance items. You can take them off your list.

Ok, what is your definition of car modification?

dts3 04-13-2019 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3843111)
Tires are not mods. They are maintenance items. You can take them off your list.

:iagree: beat me to it

dts3 04-13-2019 11:32 AM

OP
If you're second guessing yourself about the money, you can look the other way on things like the non oem bulbs and the aftermarket diff cover, etc... I'm assuming you will not be tracking the car if you're going to pay that much for bulbs but then skimp on something like the intake. Don't forget to add in a tune also.

dts3 04-13-2019 11:38 AM

And if you ARE tracking the car, you will want to add an oil cooler. It's all about priorities I guess

OptionZero 04-13-2019 11:52 AM

If you're spending on new Te-37, they should be in the most aggressive spec you can get

Which means SPL parts adjustable arms

Don't buy crappy sized TE's

Zalot 04-13-2019 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dts3 (Post 3843124)
And if you ARE tracking the car, you will want to add an oil cooler. It's all about priorities I guess

I agree with you on diff cover because i may not need that after all. I actually ended up modifying that cover too because it was literally touching my exhaust so i had to grind the largest/outermost fin. I do plan on adding oil cooler and oil catch can in the future. Would that be over the top if this was not a track car but a daily?

Zalot 04-13-2019 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3843127)
If you're spending on new Te-37, they should be in the most aggressive spec you can get

Which means SPL parts adjustable arms

Don't buy crappy sized TE's

19x9.5 +22
19x10.5 +12
Adjustable arms for nismo supension?
Could you pls elaborate. Thanks

Zalot 04-13-2019 12:06 PM

Thank you for all the feedback. I am new to this forum and platform my intention is to learn and have a better build at the most reasonable price that is all. Thank you

dts3 04-13-2019 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalot (Post 3843129)
I agree with you on diff cover because i may not need that after all. I actually ended up modifying that cover too because it was literally touching my exhaust so i had to grind the largest/outermost fin. I do plan on adding oil cooler and oil catch can in the future. Would that be over the top if this was not a track car but a daily?

Depends on where you are. I'm in Michigan and on 80 degree days I can get my oil to 220-230 with "fun driving" before I put the cooler on. After I put it on I couldn't get it past 190 (I haven't been to the track yet).

-ZS-Carpenter 04-13-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3843111)
Tires are not mods. They are maintenance items. You can take them off your list.

the subframe bushings and fluids and light bulbs and air filter all fall under the maintenance list too. The whole list is 1 mod, maintenance and lipstick.

Zalot 04-13-2019 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3843177)
the subframe bushings and fluids and light bulbs and air filter all fall under the maintenance list too. The whole list is 1 mod, maintenance and lipstick.

So as spark plugs, brake pads, rotors and list goes on. No wonder some racing category wont let you run with specific set of tires. Common now, you are just being ridiculous now. I altered those things for a reason other than maintenance.
Seriously, your only feedback is those are not maintenance. Try again.

Zalot 04-13-2019 04:07 PM

The negaitve sentimen or vibe that i am getting from some members in this forum is very welcoming not sure why. Anyhow, thank you for all the replies but pls keep them positive and beneficial to me and the other new owners.

MZ DAIZY 04-13-2019 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalot (Post 3843195)
The negaitve sentimen or vibe that i am getting from some members in this forum is very welcoming not sure why. Anyhow, thank you for all the replies but pls keep them positive and beneficial to me and the other new owners.

I can only speak for myself, but your being trollish. Why would you ask total strangers if you wasted your money and then whine when you don’t like the answer? That’s a question only you can answer. You're being a ****. :gtfo2:

Just saying....

Zalot 04-13-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3843225)
I can only speak for myself, but your being trollish. Why would you ask total strangers if you wasted your money and then whine when you don’t like the answer? That’s a question only you can answer. You're being a ****. :gtfo2:

Just saying....

Wow, god bless you bro. What is gtfo? Id do that in my own thread, sure.

Chuck33079 04-13-2019 06:47 PM

What is your goal with the car? Daily driver, weekend toy, track slut? Honestly, the NA mod list for a Z is cat back, long tube intake, test pipes, oil cooler, sway bars and tune. Then decide what you’re doing with the car before you start buying suspension parts.


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Zalot 04-13-2019 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3843232)
What is your goal with the car? Daily driver, weekend toy, track slut? Honestly, the NA mod list for a Z is cat back, long tube intake, test pipes, oil cooler, sway bars and tune. Then decide what you’re doing with the car before you start buying suspension parts.


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Mostly handling, could use a little lower center of gravity but reluctant to go that road yet. I do have kw in mind for future upgrade. Suspension is a top priority for me at this time. Anything that will put the power down better and handling. Cooling is also a priority but not a must. Cosmetic is good but not a priority. Car will be mostly daily and weekend spirited driving. No racing so power is not a must. Trying to not do intake as they are not reusable anyway if i decided to do FI. No tune yet in mind as i dont really have anything that requires it. I believe once you made 2-3 on the airflow that is when u require a tune correct?

cv129 04-13-2019 10:25 PM

In terms of alignment, 370z OEM suspension arms have very little adjustment abilities. Since you plan to go lower in the future, you should also budget for adjustable arms, either to get alignment back to OEM spec or custom configurations. SPL offers the best quality arms for our platform. This is what OptionZero referred to earlier.

BettyZ 04-13-2019 10:33 PM

My two cents, oil cooler is a necessity if you intend on being an enthusiastic driver. I run eibach sway bars with SPL endlinks and have noticed a lot of improvement. SoulFunction undercarriage braces are also helpful.

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Sway 04-14-2019 12:28 AM

Tame list, no big deal.

JARblue 04-14-2019 01:19 AM

I'm looking to track my 7 year 100K mile Z. Build budget has ballooned to 12K with 0 hp increase :twocents:

And that is mostly maintenance. Plus a differential. Sticking with stock suspension for now. You can spend a lot and not do much on this platform. Make sure the money you spend gives you the results you desire. Otherwise, don't bother.

MZ DAIZY 04-14-2019 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3843232)
What is your goal with the car? Daily driver, weekend toy, track slut? Honestly, the NA mod list for a Z is cat back, long tube intake, test pipes, oil cooler, sway bars and tune. Then decide what you’re doing with the car before you start buying suspension parts.


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:iagree:

My mods so far: Stillen gen 3 intakes, FI catback exhaust, Z1 32 core oil cooler and a tune. Went from 275 WHP to 319 WHP.

Still running stock Manifolds and stock Cats due to being my DD and my subdivisions noice ordinance .

Total cost was just over $4500 including installation. Best bang for your buck!

Zalot 04-14-2019 07:42 AM

While i do understand that the concensus here considers a mod as an actual mod only when there is a gain in power, im a little bit peculiar in my build. I will stop calling my Changes as a mod but rather a tweak so we can all stop the bickering over some matters that are trivial and non sense. I presume that we are all adults here and that we can all act civil and respectful. We can all agree to disagree. This thread is not about bashing the platform but rather a plea to the experts from a novice to do it right. The gtr and supra comment on my first post were merely a sarcasm and nothing more. Everything on the list on my first post serve a purpose other than cosmetic or maintenance in my opinion. At this point, any money spent towards the build on a brand new car, im considering as a tweak. I am coming from an 86 platform and man that car is solid and well balanced. It is efficient and it actually forces you to become astute in you driving skill. That was a humbling experience for me. That car was a momentum car. You almost always have to create your advantage due to the lack in power and you learn to do it efficiently. It excels in other ways but thats for another topic. That being said, my goal is not about power at this time but to build a drivers car and not a muscle car. I want to build this car to be efficient and balance (aerodynamics, unsprung weight, weight distribution and etc). I want A car that is almost an extension of my body. I dont care about dyno numbers unless it has 400whp on a full bolts on na car. If you could recreate that then sure i will look that way. i only want an efficient and balance car right now. When The time comes where i want more power, i will look into FI or maybe even a different platform and not the bolts on. I saw potential on this car regardless of what others have actually said that this is not balance. For instance, a youtubers including savagegeese & matt farah to name a few think that this car is unbalanced. In my opinion the z is on par with the 86 if not better. I know it could be improved and that is my goal.

Im also interested on some of your alignment spec and what they do if you care to share. You may even pm them to me if you are not confortable in sharing them publicly. Thank you again and i appreciate the latest post and found them very helpful

MZ DAIZY 04-14-2019 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalot (Post 3843362)
While i do understand that the concensus here considers a mod as an actual mod only when there is a gain in power, im a little bit peculiar in my build. I will stop calling my Changes as a mod but rather a tweak so we can all stop the bickering over some matters that are trivial and non sense. I presume that we are all adults here and that we can all act civil and respectful. We can all agree to disagree. This thread is not about bashing the platform but rather a plea to the experts from a novice to do it right. The gtr and supra comment on my first post were merely a sarcasm and nothing more. Everything on the list on my first post serve a purpose other than cosmetic or maintenance in my opinion. At this point, any money spent towards the build on a brand new car, im considering as a tweak. I am coming from an 86 platform and man that car is solid and well balanced. It is efficient and it actually forces you to become astute in you driving skill. That was a humbling experience for me. That car was a momentum car. You almost always have to create your advantage due to the lack in power and you learn to do it efficiently. It excels in other ways but thats for another topic. That being said, my goal is not about power at this time but to build a drivers car and not a muscle car. I want to build this car to be efficient and balance (aerodynamics, unsprung weight, weight distribution and etc). I want A car that is almost an extension of my body. I dont care about dyno numbers unless it has 400whp on a full bolts on na car. If you could recreate that then sure i will look that way. i only want an efficient and balance car right now. When The time comes where i want more power, i will look into FI or maybe even a different platform and not the bolts on. I saw potential on this car regardless of what others have actually said that this is not balance. For instance, a youtubers including savagegeese & matt farah to name a few think that this car is unbalanced. In my opinion the z is on par with the 86 if not better. I know it could be improved and that is my goal.

Im also interested on some of your alignment spec and what they do if you care to share. You may even pm them to me if you are not confortable in sharing them publicly. Thank you again and i appreciate the latest post and found them very helpful

I’m confused.... why do you need a better suspension if you’re not interested in upping the horsepower?

As a DD mine handles just fine stock.:driving:

Zingston 04-14-2019 08:48 AM

[QUOTE=MZ DAIZY;3843341]:iagree:

Still running stock Manifolds and stock Cats due to being my DD and my subdivisions noice ordinance .



'Subdivision Noise Ordinance' :gtfo2:

:icon17:

MZ DAIZY 04-14-2019 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalot (Post 3843038)
Soon after buying a brand new nismo I started having the hyper mod bug syndrome. I am starting to think down the road when all is set and done if i should have just gotten a used gtr or continue down this path. Here is a very short list as of now

(4100) Te37 wheels including center cap cover and rays hubring (4100)
(230). R40 Iconix Lug nuts
(350). Set of pressure sensor Autel maxi tpms ts508
(1200) Brand new michelin pilot tires
(1300) Brand new michelin winter tires
(370). Diff cover plus gear motul fluid/Spl diff solid bushing that i then replaced with whiteline poly
(70). 3 extra motul diff gear oil to reflush after break in
(98). whiteline poly bushing
(150). Z1 subframe collar
(1900) Motordyne shockwave
(155) Phillips X-treme Vision bulb
(114) K&N drop in filter
(140). Raceseng ahift knob
(260). Windows tint
(50). Dress up bolts

Which puts me over 10k at the moment and im not even close halfway through my build. This puts me over 50k already including the car plus mod. Im at the brand new supra territory now and im starting to second guess myself. I value your opinion and thanks in advance.

My total “mods” so far.

Stillen gen 3 Intakes
FI catback exhaust
Z1 oil cooler
Tune
Clear bra (entire car)
Window tint
Hood struts
Firehawk tires (stock sizes)

Total with labor, just over $6600.

Which set of mods do you think is a better for the buck? Mine or yours?

MZ DAIZY 04-14-2019 08:54 AM

[QUOTE=Zingston;3843386]
Quote:

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3843341)
:iagree:

Still running stock Manifolds and stock Cats due to being my DD and my subdivisions noice ordinance .



'Subdivision Noise Ordinance' :gtfo2:

:icon17:

Those citations get expensive! You haven’t lived until some a-hole stops in front of your house and measures the length of your lawn... :mad:

Zingston 04-14-2019 09:03 AM

[QUOTE=MZ DAIZY;3843389]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3843386)

Those citations get expensive! You haven’t lived until some a-hole stops in front of your house and measures the length of your lawn... :mad:



I used to get cited in my old hood when my palm trees weren't trimmed correctly. F that!!!

BettyZ 04-14-2019 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3843341)
:

Still running stock Manifolds and stock Cats due to being my DD and my subdivisions noice ordinance .

WtaF? If some overofficious fascist-*** neighbor wrote me up because my car sounds like freedom, I'd salt their lawn - then have them cited for improper landscaping.

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BettyZ 04-14-2019 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3843388)
My total “mods” so far.



Stillen gen 3 Intakes

FI catback exhaust

Z1 oil cooler

Tune

Clear bra (entire car)

Window tint

Hood struts

Firehawk tires (stock sizes)



Total with labor, just over $6600.



Which set of mods do you think is a better for the buck? Mine or yours?

How much did a total-car clear bra set you back?

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