Am I Crazy? Mod List and feedback

JARblue · 04-14-2019, 02:19 AM

I'm looking to track my 7 year 100K mile Z. Build budget has ballooned to 12K with 0 hp increase

And that is mostly maintenance. Plus a differential. Sticking with stock suspension for now. You can spend a lot and not do much on this platform. Make sure the money you spend gives you the results you desire. Otherwise, don't bother.

MZ DAIZY · 04-14-2019, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

What is your goal with the car? Daily driver, weekend toy, track slut? Honestly, the NA mod list for a Z is cat back, long tube intake, test pipes, oil cooler, sway bars and tune. Then decide what you’re doing with the car before you start buying suspension parts.

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My mods so far: Stillen gen 3 intakes, FI catback exhaust, Z1 32 core oil cooler and a tune. Went from 275 WHP to 319 WHP.

Still running stock Manifolds and stock Cats due to being my DD and my subdivisions noice ordinance .

Total cost was just over $4500 including installation. Best bang for your buck!

Zalot · 04-14-2019, 08:42 AM

While i do understand that the concensus here considers a mod as an actual mod only when there is a gain in power, im a little bit peculiar in my build. I will stop calling my Changes as a mod but rather a tweak so we can all stop the bickering over some matters that are trivial and non sense. I presume that we are all adults here and that we can all act civil and respectful. We can all agree to disagree. This thread is not about bashing the platform but rather a plea to the experts from a novice to do it right. The gtr and supra comment on my first post were merely a sarcasm and nothing more. Everything on the list on my first post serve a purpose other than cosmetic or maintenance in my opinion. At this point, any money spent towards the build on a brand new car, im considering as a tweak. I am coming from an 86 platform and man that car is solid and well balanced. It is efficient and it actually forces you to become astute in you driving skill. That was a humbling experience for me. That car was a momentum car. You almost always have to create your advantage due to the lack in power and you learn to do it efficiently. It excels in other ways but thats for another topic. That being said, my goal is not about power at this time but to build a drivers car and not a muscle car. I want to build this car to be efficient and balance (aerodynamics, unsprung weight, weight distribution and etc). I want A car that is almost an extension of my body. I dont care about dyno numbers unless it has 400whp on a full bolts on na car. If you could recreate that then sure i will look that way. i only want an efficient and balance car right now. When The time comes where i want more power, i will look into FI or maybe even a different platform and not the bolts on. I saw potential on this car regardless of what others have actually said that this is not balance. For instance, a youtubers including savagegeese & matt farah to name a few think that this car is unbalanced. In my opinion the z is on par with the 86 if not better. I know it could be improved and that is my goal.

Im also interested on some of your alignment spec and what they do if you care to share. You may even pm them to me if you are not confortable in sharing them publicly. Thank you again and i appreciate the latest post and found them very helpful

MZ DAIZY · 04-14-2019, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalot

While i do understand that the concensus here considers a mod as an actual mod only when there is a gain in power, im a little bit peculiar in my build. I will stop calling my Changes as a mod but rather a tweak so we can all stop the bickering over some matters that are trivial and non sense. I presume that we are all adults here and that we can all act civil and respectful. We can all agree to disagree. This thread is not about bashing the platform but rather a plea to the experts from a novice to do it right. The gtr and supra comment on my first post were merely a sarcasm and nothing more. Everything on the list on my first post serve a purpose other than cosmetic or maintenance in my opinion. At this point, any money spent towards the build on a brand new car, im considering as a tweak. I am coming from an 86 platform and man that car is solid and well balanced. It is efficient and it actually forces you to become astute in you driving skill. That was a humbling experience for me. That car was a momentum car. You almost always have to create your advantage due to the lack in power and you learn to do it efficiently. It excels in other ways but thats for another topic. That being said, my goal is not about power at this time but to build a drivers car and not a muscle car. I want to build this car to be efficient and balance (aerodynamics, unsprung weight, weight distribution and etc). I want A car that is almost an extension of my body. I dont care about dyno numbers unless it has 400whp on a full bolts on na car. If you could recreate that then sure i will look that way. i only want an efficient and balance car right now. When The time comes where i want more power, i will look into FI or maybe even a different platform and not the bolts on. I saw potential on this car regardless of what others have actually said that this is not balance. For instance, a youtubers including savagegeese & matt farah to name a few think that this car is unbalanced. In my opinion the z is on par with the 86 if not better. I know it could be improved and that is my goal.

Im also interested on some of your alignment spec and what they do if you care to share. You may even pm them to me if you are not confortable in sharing them publicly. Thank you again and i appreciate the latest post and found them very helpful

I’m confused.... why do you need a better suspension if you’re not interested in upping the horsepower?

As a DD mine handles just fine stock.

Zingston · 04-14-2019, 09:48 AM

[QUOTE=MZ DAIZY;3843341]

Still running stock Manifolds and stock Cats due to being my DD and my subdivisions noice ordinance .

'Subdivision Noise Ordinance'

MZ DAIZY · 04-14-2019, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalot

Soon after buying a brand new nismo I started having the hyper mod bug syndrome. I am starting to think down the road when all is set and done if i should have just gotten a used gtr or continue down this path. Here is a very short list as of now

(4100) Te37 wheels including center cap cover and rays hubring (4100)
(230). R40 Iconix Lug nuts
(350). Set of pressure sensor Autel maxi tpms ts508
(1200) Brand new michelin pilot tires
(1300) Brand new michelin winter tires
(370). Diff cover plus gear motul fluid/Spl diff solid bushing that i then replaced with whiteline poly
(70). 3 extra motul diff gear oil to reflush after break in
(98). whiteline poly bushing
(150). Z1 subframe collar
(1900) Motordyne shockwave
(155) Phillips X-treme Vision bulb
(114) K&N drop in filter
(140). Raceseng ahift knob
(260). Windows tint
(50). Dress up bolts

Which puts me over 10k at the moment and im not even close halfway through my build. This puts me over 50k already including the car plus mod. Im at the brand new supra territory now and im starting to second guess myself. I value your opinion and thanks in advance.

My total “mods” so far.

Stillen gen 3 Intakes
FI catback exhaust
Z1 oil cooler
Tune
Clear bra (entire car)
Window tint
Hood struts
Firehawk tires (stock sizes)

Total with labor, just over $6600.

Which set of mods do you think is a better for the buck? Mine or yours?

MZ DAIZY · 04-14-2019, 09:54 AM

[QUOTE=Zingston;3843386]

Quote:

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

Still running stock Manifolds and stock Cats due to being my DD and my subdivisions noice ordinance .

'Subdivision Noise Ordinance'

Those citations get expensive! You haven’t lived until some a-hole stops in front of your house and measures the length of your lawn...

Zingston · 04-14-2019, 10:03 AM

[QUOTE=MZ DAIZY;3843389]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zingston

Those citations get expensive! You haven’t lived until some a-hole stops in front of your house and measures the length of your lawn...

I used to get cited in my old hood when my palm trees weren't trimmed correctly. F that!!!

BettyZ · 04-14-2019, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

:

Still running stock Manifolds and stock Cats due to being my DD and my subdivisions noice ordinance .

WtaF? If some overofficious fascist-*** neighbor wrote me up because my car sounds like freedom, I'd salt their lawn - then have them cited for improper landscaping.

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BettyZ · 04-14-2019, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

My total “mods” so far.

Stillen gen 3 Intakes

FI catback exhaust

Z1 oil cooler

Tune

Clear bra (entire car)

Window tint

Hood struts

Firehawk tires (stock sizes)

Total with labor, just over $6600.

Which set of mods do you think is a better for the buck? Mine or yours?

How much did a total-car clear bra set you back?

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Zingston · 04-14-2019, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BettyZ

WtaF? If some overofficious fascist-*** neighbor wrote me up because my car sounds like freedom, I'd salt their lawn - then have them cited for improper landscaping.

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There are things that can be done for paybacks... but mostly at night. I'll leave it at that.

Baronsmokes · 04-14-2019, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalot

Soon after buying a brand new nismo I started having the hyper mod bug syndrome. I am starting to think down the road when all is set and done if i should have just gotten a used gtr or continue down this path. Here is a very short list as of now

(4100) Te37 wheels including center cap cover and rays hubring (4100)
(230). R40 Iconix Lug nuts
(350). Set of pressure sensor Autel maxi tpms ts508
(1200) Brand new michelin pilot tires
(1300) Brand new michelin winter tires
(370). Diff cover plus gear motul fluid/Spl diff solid bushing that i then replaced with whiteline poly
(70). 3 extra motul diff gear oil to reflush after break in
(98). whiteline poly bushing
(150). Z1 subframe collar
(1900) Motordyne shockwave
(155) Phillips X-treme Vision bulb
(114) K&N drop in filter
(140). Raceseng ahift knob
(260). Windows tint
(50). Dress up bolts

Which puts me over 10k at the moment and im not even close halfway through my build. This puts me over 50k already including the car plus mod. Im at the brand new supra territory now and im starting to second guess myself. I value your opinion and thanks in advance.

You will want more HP in future.You have not even started to scratch the surface.
Good Luck.

MZ DAIZY · 04-14-2019, 10:28 AM

[QUOTE=Zingston;3843390]

Quote:

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

I used to get cited in my old hood when my palm trees weren't trimmed correctly. F that!!!

Then there was this time I replaced the gold numbers on my mailbox with silver ones...

“You don’t want to get mixed up with a guy like me, Dottie. I’m a loner... a rebel...”

MZ DAIZY · 04-14-2019, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BettyZ

WtaF? If some overofficious fascist-*** neighbor wrote me up because my car sounds like freedom, I'd salt their lawn - then have them cited for improper landscaping.

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Ummm... I have no idea what you're talking about, sir...

MZ DAIZY · 04-14-2019, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BettyZ

How much did a total-car clear bra set you back?

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$1500 cash. Money well spent.

04-14-2019, 02:19 AM	#31 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	I'm looking to track my 7 year 100K mile Z. Build budget has ballooned to 12K with 0 hp increase And that is mostly maintenance. Plus a differential. Sticking with stock suspension for now. You can spend a lot and not do much on this platform. Make sure the money you spend gives you the results you desire. Otherwise, don't bother. MZ DAIZY likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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Zingston A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 4,028 Drives: like it's a rental. Rep Power: 2684370	[QUOTE=MZ DAIZY;3843341] Still running stock Manifolds and stock Cats due to being my DD and my subdivisions noice ordinance . 'Subdivision Noise Ordinance' BettyZ likes this.

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04-14-2019, 08:42 AM	#33 (permalink)
Zalot Base Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Us Posts: 42 Drives: 2016 nismo Rep Power: 6	While i do understand that the concensus here considers a mod as an actual mod only when there is a gain in power, im a little bit peculiar in my build. I will stop calling my Changes as a mod but rather a tweak so we can all stop the bickering over some matters that are trivial and non sense. I presume that we are all adults here and that we can all act civil and respectful. We can all agree to disagree. This thread is not about bashing the platform but rather a plea to the experts from a novice to do it right. The gtr and supra comment on my first post were merely a sarcasm and nothing more. Everything on the list on my first post serve a purpose other than cosmetic or maintenance in my opinion. At this point, any money spent towards the build on a brand new car, im considering as a tweak. I am coming from an 86 platform and man that car is solid and well balanced. It is efficient and it actually forces you to become astute in you driving skill. That was a humbling experience for me. That car was a momentum car. You almost always have to create your advantage due to the lack in power and you learn to do it efficiently. It excels in other ways but thats for another topic. That being said, my goal is not about power at this time but to build a drivers car and not a muscle car. I want to build this car to be efficient and balance (aerodynamics, unsprung weight, weight distribution and etc). I want A car that is almost an extension of my body. I dont care about dyno numbers unless it has 400whp on a full bolts on na car. If you could recreate that then sure i will look that way. i only want an efficient and balance car right now. When The time comes where i want more power, i will look into FI or maybe even a different platform and not the bolts on. I saw potential on this car regardless of what others have actually said that this is not balance. For instance, a youtubers including savagegeese & matt farah to name a few think that this car is unbalanced. In my opinion the z is on par with the 86 if not better. I know it could be improved and that is my goal. Im also interested on some of your alignment spec and what they do if you care to share. You may even pm them to me if you are not confortable in sharing them publicly. Thank you again and i appreciate the latest post and found them very helpful