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BlueDog007 01-24-2019 09:51 AM

Totalled my Z yesterday...what should I consider next?
 
I have always feared being hit in the rear in my Z and yesterday it happened. I saw the 21 year old female approaching me while I was stuck behind 3 cars turning left and I was a sitting duck. She never slowed down and hit me going about 40. Luckily, I am just a little sore but I'm ok. Surprisingly, my Z held up really well and took the impact from the Honda CR-V pretty well. I hit the X5 in front of me too, so both the rear and front ends are damaged. The rear is bad.

So, I'm in the market. I'm considering another Z, Nismo, Lexus RC F, Supra, BMW M's. I'd really like to stay under $35-40k if possible. I love Toyota products and believe they are superior to most, but the Supra price tag is a little crazy for what you get. I know many of you are enthusiast and know a lot about cars, so if you have any good opinions I'd love to hear them. Let me know and thanks for your help!

Zingston 01-24-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDog007 (Post 3818405)
I have always feared being hit in the rear in my Z and yesterday it happened. I saw the 21 year old female approaching me while I was stuck behind 3 cars turning left and I was a sitting duck. She never slowed down and hit me going about 40. Luckily, I am just a little sore but I'm ok. Surprisingly, my Z held up really well and took the impact from the Honda CR-V pretty well. I hit the X5 in front of me too, so both the rear and front ends are damaged. The rear is bad.

So, I'm in the market. I'm considering another Z, Nismo, Lexus RC F, Supra, BMW M's. I'd really like to stay under $35-40k if possible. I love Toyota products and believe they are superior to most, but the Supra price tag is a little crazy for what you get. I know many of you are enthusiast and know a lot about cars, so if you have any good opinions I'd love to hear them. Let me know and thanks for your help!



That sucks! And glad you made out ok! So at that price point, you might be able to find a new Nismo... definitely another Z. Otherwise you'll be looking at used for the most part. My preference is new... but that's just me.

Spooler 01-24-2019 10:34 AM

Get yourself checked out pronto. When I got hit in the rear and my car totalled, I didn't know I had an issue until a couple days after. Then it was the common thought of will it go away. NOT!!!! 2 herniated disk and one neck surgery later I still have issues.

Cyber370 01-24-2019 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDog007 (Post 3818405)
I love Toyota products and believe they are superior to most, but the Supra price tag is a little crazy for what you get. I know many of you are enthusiast and know a lot about cars, so if you have any good opinions I'd love to hear them. Let me know and thanks for your help!


Just keep in mind that the new Supra is not a Toyota product. It is a BMW. If that doesn’t bother you then go for it. But if I was you and I wanted a BMW, I would just get an M2. But I’m not into zee German carz, so I would go for a nice Lexus RC. They are absolutely beautiful and they come with bulletproof reliability. You can’t go wrong!

Of course a newish Nismo is not too shabby either but I am a little biased....lol.


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Jayhovah 01-24-2019 10:49 AM

I'm a 2-seater/Manual Trans snob... so most likely I would just get another Z.

This is evidenced by my totalling of my '11 Sport and buying a '13 sport within 72 hours.

sp911 01-24-2019 11:31 AM

glad you're ok. that sucks. test drive them all and then find the best z you can afford. i was able to find a 2 year old z with 5k for me and a 2 year old mustang gt for my wife with only 1600 miles. saved about 10k off new on both.

gbrettin 01-24-2019 11:32 AM

I’d spring for the new Supra.

BlueDog007 01-24-2019 12:17 PM

I have a hard time spring for a $50-55k Supra that has less power than a Z. Even though I feel certain the Supra (Toyota/BMW) will be superior quality than a Nissan. Spending more for less power just doesn't make sense to me unless I'm missing something. And when are the Supra's even available? For $50-55k, I can buy a used Corvette Z06 which will smoke them all!

I have found a 2017 Nismo with 5k miles on it for $31k. Besides the body features, what are the biggest differences between a Nismo and a Sport package? My 2010 Z had the Fast Intentions exhaust, Stillen CAI, and a tune. Would I need those items on a Nismo or do they come standard? Also, the stereo system in my Z was AWFUL...is the Nismo system far superior? What other items are superior? The same dealer has a 2018 Sport Package with 7k miles for $24k.

God-Speed 01-24-2019 12:23 PM

Glad to hear and see that you are Ok. As far as looking for a new car, Let the dust settle first. Take your time in finding a replacement for the Z. There is a lot of cars out there. Just take your time. :tup:

ColtronZ 01-24-2019 12:31 PM

The Supra probably won't be available for awhile + cost way more than it's valued for sometime after that until prices and stock setttle. Plus other reasons not to buy it..

Spring for a Z or Infiniti since they are similar if you want that familiarity . Lexus and Jags are nice too imo.

danegrey 01-24-2019 12:50 PM

Glad to hear you are OK, but to get checked out. Seeing an accident about to happen might cause you to brace/stiffen for the impact.

When I think what I might get, the C7 vettes come to mind... might find a nice one use.

Stvee 01-24-2019 01:00 PM

I'd definitely be looking at a used M2 in that price range. The motor on the M2 makes like 380whp with a tune and exhaust. BMW's aren't nearly as unreliable as people like to say. They're just expensive if you can't do any of the work yourself and have to take it to a dealership for everything. Parts themselves aren't any worse than Nissan parts.

The most unreliable car I've had so far was a VQ40 Xterra and I've had a lot of cars that were supposedly unreliable. (2 M3's, 135i, GTI, Evo IX to name a few)

*J*ap***V*et* 01-24-2019 01:23 PM

I would go for a newer Camaro. Plenty of power right out the gate and quite a few versions to pick from. Same with Mustang. At that price range you can get quite a car for little from the big domestic 3 these days. Glad you're ok man!

Falconquey 01-24-2019 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by *J*ap***V*et* (Post 3818480)
I would go for a newer Camaro. Plenty of power right out the gate and quite a few versions to pick from. Same with Mustang. At that price range you can get quite a car for little from the big domestic 3 these days. Glad you're ok man!


:iagree:

Both are solid choices at that price point.

mishuko 01-24-2019 01:31 PM

I was rear ended in the summer and took my rear whe clean lff. The rays are bullet proof though.

Glad you are ok. As others mentioned do yourself a favor and get checked.

Next car? Heh... i got a 19' nismo in September a month later. Sat on a cheque for 2 weeks before saying "i need a sports car"

Options were a used m2 or the z. M2 i just couldnt swallow new they go for 90k and 2 years old with 40000km was asking 55k (wtf that depreciation)

I got my z otd on the road for substantially less msrp in terms of usd pricing.

goeagles11 01-24-2019 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDog007 (Post 3818459)
I have a hard time spring for a $50-55k Supra that has less power than a Z. Even though I feel certain the Supra (Toyota/BMW) will be superior quality than a Nissan. Spending more for less power just doesn't make sense to me unless I'm missing something. And when are the Supra's even available? For $50-55k, I can buy a used Corvette Z06 which will smoke them all!

I have found a 2017 Nismo with 5k miles on it for $31k. Besides the body features, what are the biggest differences between a Nismo and a Sport package? My 2010 Z had the Fast Intentions exhaust, Stillen CAI, and a tune. Would I need those items on a Nismo or do they come standard? Also, the stereo system in my Z was AWFUL...is the Nismo system far superior? What other items are superior? The same dealer has a 2018 Sport Package with 7k miles for $24k.

Eh - I mean the 370z has 270 lb-ft of torque and the new Supra is rated at 365 lb-ft. That's a major difference and the Supras 0-60 time is about a full second faster than the Z's.

It'll also be a lot easier and cheaper to get gobs of power out of the B58 and of course the feel of a turbo charged car vs an N/A car is very different.

I'd get a Civic Type R if you can stand the looks.

Stvee 01-24-2019 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by goeagles11 (Post 3818487)
Eh - I mean the 370z has 270 lb-ft of torque and the new Supra is rated at 365 lb-ft. That's a major difference and the Supras 0-60 time is about a full second faster than the Z's.

It'll also be a lot easier and cheaper to get gobs of power out of the B58 and of course the feel of a turbo charged car vs an N/A car is very different.

I'd get a Civic Type R if you can stand the looks.

The B58 in the 340i makes 380whp with just a tune. It's definitely a solid motor.

The only problems with the new supra are it's ugly as hell and there's no manual (yet).

SG4247 01-24-2019 06:46 PM

Low milage Z06....

Quicksilvers 01-24-2019 08:08 PM

I am sorry to hear of your unfortunate luck that does suck at least you are ok though. If you are in the market to replace your totaled Z. See if you can purchase a 2018 or 2019 Nismo Z to replace your totaled Z you will love it the Nismo Z is a enjoying vehicle to own!! www.ebaymotors.com www.autotrader.com www.cars.com www.courtesynissan.com www.autonation.com www.autolist.com

NecioVato 01-24-2019 09:51 PM

Glad you're good - but yeah, most definitely get yourself checked out make sure something doesn't come up after the fact.

If you loved the Z before it was totaled - maybe check out a Nismo. I winded up going from a 2010 Z sport to a 2017 Nismo. The main difference that I found was that the suspension setup felt much better in the Nismo than the sport - although 4700 miles to my 98k miles is a lot to ask for when comparing the 2 so there is that. Also - I can use that little side window that got obstructed by the head of the sport seats.

Also, the recaros are something that I really really love in the Nismo - so if you were happy with the Z before hand - i would say you could get a nice slightly used one for low 30s if not high 20s. Add in some mods and a tune and you'll be back in biz. While I think the Mustangs and the Camaros are nice - I just couldn't get one unless it was a ZL1 or a GT350 (just my .02).

Shoeshear 01-25-2019 09:49 AM

Certainly seems like the previously mentioned cars would all be up your alley. GT350, ZL1, Camaro SS 1LE. Obviously GT350 and ZL1 would probably have to be used, but I think if your budget is that high and your goal is performance, there's no argument that 'Murica is doing pretty well right now.

Also, sucks about the Z. Glad you're alright. I would go get examined, they'll at least do a spine X-ray just to make sure you don't have any fractures. And you'll probably have some degree of whiplash injury if you got hit hard enough. Rest up!

Spooler 01-25-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoeshear (Post 3818691)
Certainly seems like the previously mentioned cars would all be up your alley. GT350, ZL1, Camaro SS 1LE. Obviously GT350 and ZL1 would probably have to be used, but I think if your budget is that high and your goal is performance, there's no argument that 'Murica is doing pretty well right now.

Nah, only thing I would consider would be a C7 Z06 or Grand Sport Corvette with a manual tranny. That is the only thing close to a Z in my book.

Shoeshear 01-25-2019 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3818692)
Nah, only thing I would consider would be a C7 Z06 or Grand Sport Corvette with a manual tranny. That is the only thing close to a Z in my book.

In terms of driving performance, or just how they feel? I think the Z06 is probably a closer approximation, 2 door, 2 seater coupe, FE RWD. But the GT350/ZL1 seem like they should be right there, no? I've driven a Z06, sadly neither the ZL1 or GT350.

Kaizoku 01-25-2019 11:19 AM

I've had a hard on for the new q60. Right in your price range for a 2018 used one. I'd trade in my Z if I didn't just get it 2 years ago lol

wanker 01-25-2019 02:22 PM

Glad you're okay. I'd look for a used M3 or M5 coming off a lease, those car depreciate substantially and are good deals, especially if you can work on your own car (e.g., brakes, tune up, etc.).

gbrettin 01-25-2019 02:39 PM

Oh god, I forgot about the GT350. I don't care for Mustangs, but the 350GT nailed it down. Damn sexy!

And as for the Supra, It's all about personal preference. I like it so I'm biased. I think the Supra will be easy to extract power out of because it already has all the turbo plumbing. 400hp in that would make for a fun drive.


Honestly, the world is your oyster. This is a great time to be alive for sports/muscle cars.

Lvcky69 01-25-2019 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 3818822)
Oh god, I forgot about the GT350. I don't care for Mustangs, but the 350GT nailed it down. Damn sexy!

And as for the Supra, It's all about personal preference. I like it so I'm biased. I think the Supra will be easy to extract power out of because it already has all the turbo plumbing. 400hp in that would make for a fun drive.


Honestly, the world is your oyster. This is a great time to be alive for sports/muscle cars.

A Supra? lol come up with some more money and get yourself a 911 op and call it a day

kntrider 01-27-2019 02:06 PM

I have a ‘17 RC F which I got new 2 years ago and sold my ‘09 Z Touring . It’s a nice daily and needed a backseat for the baby.

I find it too heavy and a bit boring so picked a up a ‘14 Z Sport 6MT last month for my fun car fix. I think a cheap manual is more fun than a expensive auto car. I also consider the Z as a bargain Supra based on looks and power.

If it was me and if you don’t have a family, I would be looking at C7 GS or Z06. Or get a Z and invest the rest especially when a recession is upon us.

After having a new expensive car, I just enjoy the used and older cars more to be honest. So consider 2 fun toys versus one expensive one.

My current garage:
‘17 RC F - company car/lease and daily
‘14 Z - fun project car which will end up being a future track car
‘13 FJ Cruiser - dad duties
‘00 S2000 - my forever car which I’ll be buried in

Tick64 01-27-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kntrider (Post 3819321)

My current garage:
‘17 RC F - company car/lease and daily
‘14 Z - fun project car which will end up being a future track car
‘13 FJ Cruiser - dad duties
‘00 S2000 - my forever car which I’ll be buried in

Great assortment in the garage!

Desert Rat 01-28-2019 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 3818439)
I’d spring for the new Supra.

Why? Not much more HP than the Z but a lot more money....

alcheng 01-28-2019 01:05 PM

definitely another Z, I bet you haven't had enough fun with it yet... :tup:

DreamyRelief 01-28-2019 01:59 PM

I'm surprised only 2 people mentioned the new q60's considering it's still a nissan and how much power you can get from the VR30. Yes it may not feel as sporty but being able to get around 430whp with just intakes, exhaust, and a tune seems too good to pass up.

Tick64 01-28-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamyRelief (Post 3819622)
I'm surprised only 2 people mentioned the new q60's… it may not feel as sporty but...

Exactly that. :driving: Lots of people fixated on horsepower here.

eZg 01-28-2019 03:03 PM

no way you'd get close to touching a C7 Grand Sport or Z06 around $40K. Maybe after the C8 comes out but sounds like OP needs a car NOW
.

I have to vote for a camero with LS or possibly an M4 (although a stretch at $40K as well)

BlueDog007 01-29-2019 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kntrider (Post 3819321)
I have a ‘17 RC F which I got new 2 years ago and sold my ‘09 Z Touring . It’s a nice daily and needed a backseat for the baby.

I find it too heavy and a bit boring so picked a up a ‘14 Z Sport 6MT last month for my fun car fix. I think a cheap manual is more fun than a expensive auto car. I also consider the Z as a bargain Supra based on looks and power.

If it was me and if you don’t have a family, I would be looking at C7 GS or Z06. Or get a Z and invest the rest especially when a recession is upon us.

After having a new expensive car, I just enjoy the used and older cars more to be honest. So consider 2 fun toys versus one expensive one.

My current garage:
‘17 RC F - company car/lease and daily
‘14 Z - fun project car which will end up being a future track car
‘13 FJ Cruiser - dad duties
‘00 S2000 - my forever car which I’ll be buried in

Nice garage!

My current garage:

1974 Ford Bronco (408 stroker / 520hp / 430tq)
2010 Toyota Tundra
2010 Nissan 370z (Totalled :-/)

Spoiler 01-30-2019 03:23 AM

Glad to hear you weren’t hurt in the wreck

Whjaxn17 01-30-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDog007 (Post 3818459)
I have a hard time spring for a $50-55k Supra that has less power than a Z. Even though I feel certain the Supra (Toyota/BMW) will be superior quality than a Nissan. Spending more for less power just doesn't make sense to me unless I'm missing something. And when are the Supra's even available? For $50-55k, I can buy a used Corvette Z06 which will smoke them all!

I have found a 2017 Nismo with 5k miles on it for $31k. Besides the body features, what are the biggest differences between a Nismo and a Sport package? My 2010 Z had the Fast Intentions exhaust, Stillen CAI, and a tune. Would I need those items on a Nismo or do they come standard? Also, the stereo system in my Z was AWFUL...is the Nismo system far superior? What other items are superior? The same dealer has a 2018 Sport Package with 7k miles for $24k.

I'm glad you're ok. I'll also echo the suggestion of going to get checked out just to be sure.

That said, I keep seeing this about the same or less power, but it's not entirely the case. The new Supras likely put more torque to the wheels than the Z even makes. They make 95 more at the crank. And the Supra weighs the same, probably less than the Nismo by a 100-150lbs.

Stvee 01-30-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3820227)
I'm glad you're ok. I'll also echo the suggestion of going to get checked out just to be sure.

That said, I keep seeing this about the same or less power, but it's not entirely the case. The new Supras likely put more torque to the wheels than the Z even makes. They make 95 more at the crank. And the Supra weighs the same, probably less than the Nismo by a 100-150lbs.

And assuming it's the same B58 that's used in BMW's, you'll be able to bump it up to ~380whp with just a tune. Plus the B58 is closed deck and has forged pistons/rods/crank so it has a ton of potential for big power.

Whjaxn17 01-30-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stvee (Post 3820233)
And assuming it's the same B58 that's used in BMW's, you'll be able to bump it up to ~380whp with just a tune. Plus the B58 is closed deck and has forged pistons/rods/crank so it has a ton of potential for big power.

Also read they tend to be underrated and come making the advertised crank numbers to the wheels.

For the $40-50k range, I'd also be looking at Q60. That VR30 is an animal and has been proven to be underrated. Z1 baselined a bone stock 1 and it put 304whp/311wtq down, even though they're only supposed to make 300/300 crank, and with nothing more than a tune, it made 411/453. It's a nice car and for $600 in "mods" you can add 100/150. That's a helluva hp/$ gain.

Lvcky69 01-30-2019 01:46 PM

If I was in your shoes, I would never look at a q60s coupe. They look like a girls car, they come auto and their trans and suspensions are garbage. M2's and M3's are better looking cars


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