GT500 vs 370Z

m4a1mustang · 01-06-2010, 10:11 PM

If you are winning by a full second then your competition is lacking in the skill dept. I'm assuming you are talking a full second et to et.

What are you running, btw? A well driven 05-up GT should be good for mid thirteens.

ZKindaGuy · 01-06-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

Figured i'd chime in with my .02, my car club usually does drag race night once a month at the local strip, so far I myself, have raced 3 current generation mustang gt's, havent lost yet with my best win being a full second faster, probably a bad driver, but they were all pretty simple wins. I consider a full second "killing" to be honest, but like I said, he probably wasnt the best driver. If you want to have a numbers battle, the Z outperforms the GT from 0-60 Acceleration, 1/4 mile, Slalom, Skid pad, etc. Here is a vid for confirmation. If i'm not mistaken, that is a 2010 GT.

YouTube - Drag Race - Genesis Coupe, 370Z, Mustang GT

the article.

2010 Ford Mustang GT vs 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe vs 2009 Nissan 370Z - Conclusion - Comparison | 2010 Hyundai Genesis Review at Automotive.com

and if you're in for numbers..

2010 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe vs 2009 Nissan 370Z - Specs and Test Data - Comparison | 2010 Hyundai Genesis Review at Automotive.com

AS you said...it probably was the driver....and BTW....the stats TYPES you identify but didn't provide the comparative values for in your first paragraph - I remember reading them as being so close that the preference given to the 370Z was more of a subjective call by the reviewer(s) as both cars' performances were on the whole considered to be nearly equal.

So again as you stated.....the differences you were involved probably had more to do with the driver than by the cars at all.

Red370 · 01-06-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

If you are winning by a full second then your competition is lacking in the skill dept. I'm assuming you are talking a full second et to et.

What are you running, btw? A well driven 05-up GT should be good for mid thirteens.

Best time to date has been a 13.6, on a mediocre track with temps around 98. That was my 3rd drag in the Z ever, launching at 3k and feathering the clutch. The first GT I beat ran a 14.5, not sure on the other two's times because they drove off angrily, I do know that when I crossed the line, the last one I raced was 1.5 cars behind. I dont hate the car, but from reviews and what i've seen first hand, they statistically arent better performers in stock form.

I've yet to race with any kind of weight reduction, seat removal, spare tire, etc, and havent deflated the tires any. I also havent raced with the HFC's and soon to be installed G3's, should be able to get the time down to 13.4/13.3 with cooler temps.

And might I also add, for not having an LSD, she drifts like a champ.

m4a1mustang · 01-07-2010, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

Best time to date has been a 13.6, on a mediocre track with temps around 98. That was my 3rd drag in the Z ever, launching at 3k and feathering the clutch. The first GT I beat ran a 14.5, not sure on the other two's times because they drove off angrily, I do know that when I crossed the line, the last one I raced was 1.5 cars behind. I dont hate the car, but from reviews and what i've seen first hand, they statistically arent better performers in stock form.

I've yet to race with any kind of weight reduction, seat removal, spare tire, etc, and havent deflated the tires any. I also havent raced with the HFC's and soon to be installed G3's, should be able to get the time down to 13.4/13.3 with cooler temps.

And might I also add, for not having an LSD, she drifts like a champ.

Nice.

Those GT drivers definitely need some work. The 05+ are much faster stock for stock than my 2003 was which I had a best stock time of 13.9 with. Most of the good drivers are in the mid 13s in stock form with those cars at 103-105ish. I'd be interested to know what your friend's 60 foots were as that typically is a good indication of whether or not they know what they are doing (especially compared to you if you are clicking off good 60's).

Z eliminator · 01-07-2010, 06:57 AM

I think you guys should look at the times my 7 AT 370z sports is running. 12.8009. (elevation 560 ft) (1.97. 60 ft times.)
The time slips are posted in the " drag section ". the car is a stock moter,with stillen exhaust. Berk cats, stillen G3 intake and 4.08 gears. I now have the headers and under size crank pulley, It ran these times on the stock 19 inch factory tires. I now have 18 inch volk t-37's with 305 35 18 drag radials. 12.6;s coming soon. Now when i got to the track the car is lightned by removing the spare tire, front passenger seat, all tools and mats..With the wheels and brail battery the car has lost another 60lbs of weight.
I can also tell you that as the moter gets hot the 370z slows down to 12.95 to 13.20.
I have played with the ecu with my Cobb and it now has the revlimiter set at 8100. Its alot faster now as i wheel hop in first and second gear. I have made my own fuel map for the car but the timming can be adavance yet. RWHP with out the headers and pully is 292. In 'mm" the tranny shifts hard and fast.
A member of our Z club as a 2006 mustang gt and it runs 13.5's to 13.6. It has some mods to it, intake and exhaust.
Sam at GTM will have my SC ready for me by mid April, the car will also have a 2800 to 2900 torque converter in it. It should run 11.7's (GTR times).
I have found that a lot of guys run there cars at the track all tricked out and tell you thats it bone stock. They run lower air presure in there tires and any thing else that they can think of including a flashed ecu.
Its amasing how the guys who think that there cars are fast on the street have cardiac arrest when they get there time slips at the track. Much slower that times that are posted by the car magazines.
I can not wait to get my new maps for the Cobb,.
If any of the mustang guys want to run me N/A or with the SC please let me know.
I look forward to the race at the track.

Zsteve · 01-07-2010, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

Figured i'd chime in with my .02, my car club usually does drag race night once a month at the local strip, so far I myself, have raced 3 current generation mustang gt's, havent lost yet with my best win being a full second faster, probably a bad driver, but they were all pretty simple wins. I consider a full second "killing" to be honest, but like I said, he probably wasnt the best driver. If you want to have a numbers battle, the Z outperforms the GT from 0-60 Acceleration, 1/4 mile, Slalom, Skid pad, etc. Here is a vid for confirmation. If i'm not mistaken, that is a 2010 GT.

YouTube - Drag Race - Genesis Coupe, 370Z, Mustang GT

the article.

2010 Ford Mustang GT vs 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe vs 2009 Nissan 370Z - Conclusion - Comparison | 2010 Hyundai Genesis Review at Automotive.com

and if you're in for numbers..

2010 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe vs 2009 Nissan 370Z - Specs and Test Data - Comparison | 2010 Hyundai Genesis Review at Automotive.com

Ive been out a couple of days getting ready for my move to El Paso TX (people telling me my car will end up in Mexico) but I have to agree with this, the stangs I have beat and again Im not sure if they are 07 08 09s were by over a car length up to about 80 to 90 MPH and I consider that a good win and it could very well be the drivers and the fact that I have an AT and get perfect shifts every time and they may have messed up their shifts but thats part of the game. Im sure the 2011 stang will be a killer but will it be in our caomparison then, no cuz its HP will be way above ours, so it wont be a far comparison then.

Red370 · 01-07-2010, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator

I think you guys should look at the times my 7 AT 370z sports is running. 12.8009. (elevation 560 ft) (1.97. 60 ft times.)
The time slips are posted in the " drag section ". the car is a stock moter,with stillen exhaust. Berk cats, stillen G3 intake and 4.08 gears. I now have the headers and under size crank pulley, It ran these times on the stock 19 inch factory tires. I now have 18 inch volk t-37's with 305 35 18 drag radials. 12.6;s coming soon. Now when i got to the track the car is lightned by removing the spare tire, front passenger seat, all tools and mats..With the wheels and brail battery the car has lost another 60lbs of weight.
I can also tell you that as the moter gets hot the 370z slows down to 12.95 to 13.20.
I have played with the ecu with my Cobb and it now has the revlimiter set at 8100. Its alot faster now as i wheel hop in first and second gear. I have made my own fuel map for the car but the timming can be adavance yet. RWHP with out the headers and pully is 292. In 'mm" the tranny shifts hard and fast.
A member of our Z club as a 2006 mustang gt and it runs 13.5's to 13.6. It has some mods to it, intake and exhaust.
Sam at GTM will have my SC ready for me by mid April, the car will also have a 2800 to 2900 torque converter in it. It should run 11.7's (GTR times).
I have found that a lot of guys run there cars at the track all tricked out and tell you thats it bone stock. They run lower air presure in there tires and any thing else that they can think of including a flashed ecu.
Its amasing how the guys who think that there cars are fast on the street have cardiac arrest when they get there time slips at the track. Much slower that times that are posted by the car magazines.
I can not wait to get my new maps for the Cobb,.
If any of the mustang guys want to run me N/A or with the SC please let me know.
I look forward to the race at the track.

Your car is a badass man, I cant wait to see your times at the track with the supercharger installed, you'll probably have the first Z34 in the 11's. I'm waiting on the final numbers from GT's kit as well as Stillens, I already have money put aside for it, the one that puts out the most peak hp/tq numbers reliably will get my hard earned bonus cash. Hopefully one of them makes at least 420whp with at least 350 ft/lbs, to me thats good daily driven reliable power, and good power for the circuit as well.

Red370 · 01-07-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Ive been out a couple of days getting ready for my move to El Paso TX (people telling me my car will end up in Mexico) but I have to agree with this, the stangs I have beat and again Im not sure if they are 07 08 09s were by over a car length up to about 80 to 90 MPH and I consider that a good win and it could very well be the drivers and the fact that I have an AT and get perfect shifts every time and they may have messed up their shifts but thats part of the game. Im sure the 2011 stang will be a killer but will it be in our caomparison then, no cuz its HP will be way above ours, so it wont be a far comparison then.

I'd really like to hear your car in person, I havent heard any aftermarket exhaust systems up close and personal yet and I'm curious about FI's. Have you been looking at places to live yet? I could do some local research for you if you give me and idea of what you're looking for.

Zsteve · 01-07-2010, 07:49 AM

I too will be looking closely at the SCs coming out and hope I will be able to afford one. Im looking for more overall HP and TQ gain as a whole thur the whole RPM range on a consistent basis and not an overall HP/TQ peak number. Ive had turbos and not SCs before so Im not real familar with them, so what would be a good HP/TQ gain as a whole thru the RPM range? Again not looking for a peak gain but I guess an average gain that is ther all the time?

Zsteve · 01-07-2010, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

I'd really like to hear your car in person, I havent heard any aftermarket exhaust systems up close and personal yet and I'm curious about FI's. Have you been looking at places to live yet? I could do some local research for you if you give me and idea of what you're looking for.

No I havent looked yet, my family will stay here for now as I will be going back and forth between GA and there for training. I will be looking for an apt or 1 bedroom place that is furnished. Ive been hearing bad things about El Paso with cars getting stolen and gangs and all but Im sure its no worse than any other city. I have the FI and it sounds very aggressive, the vids on line really dont give the true sound to it, so I will have to come by and let you hear it.

Red370 · 01-07-2010, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

No I havent looked yet, my family will stay here for now as I will be going back and forth between GA and there for training. I will be looking for an apt or 1 bedroom place that is furnished. Ive been hearing bad things about El Paso with cars getting stolen and gangs and all but Im sure its no worse than any other city. I have the FI and it sounds very aggressive, the vids on line really dont give the true sound to it, so I will have to come by and let you hear it.

In response to the supercharger power question, both are centrifugal style blowers, so they wont have as much low end torque as a root/screw style, it'll gradually build boost much like a turbo without all the lag, and produce good peak hp. I'd say after 3k, it should pull pretty hard. In reference to the auto theft, there are a few gated apartment communities here if that will give you piece of mind. Our Z club meets every sunday, so hopefully you'll come out and cruise with us, theres some good mountain runs here that'll get your blood flowin, only bad part is that you'll notice a definite loss of power from your car, we're a mile up here.

Here's a thread with some pics from a few of our cruises.

Red370 and the Z-Street club picture thread

Zsteve · 01-07-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

In response to the supercharger power question, both are centrifugal style blowers, so they wont have as much low end torque as a root/screw style, it'll gradually build boost much like a turbo without all the lag, and produce good peak hp. I'd say after 3k, it should pull pretty hard. In reference to the auto theft, there are a few gated apartment communities here if that will give you piece of mind. Our Z club meets every sunday, so hopefully you'll come out and cruise with us, theres some good mountain runs here that'll get your blood flowin, only bad part is that you'll notice a definite loss of power from your car, we're a mile up here.

Here's a thread with some pics from a few of our cruises.

Red370 and the Z-Street club picture thread

I will definatley show for the GTGs, like I said before, they are lame here with no GTGs for the Zs. I will still be holding my house here in GA so I wont be able to afford a nice gated community, just lookin for a fairly cheap clean safe place till the family moves down, nothin special. I can live and have lived in some crapy places and I dont mind as long as they are clean. Living in tents and all while deployed a few times can teach you to live down if need be.

Red370 · 01-07-2010, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I will definatley show for the GTGs, like I said before, they are lame here with no GTGs for the Zs. I will still be holding my house here in GA so I wont be able to afford a nice gated community, just lookin for a fairly cheap clean safe place till the family moves down, nothin special. I can live and have lived in some crapy places and I dont mind as long as they are clean. Living in tents and all while deployed a few times can teach you to live down if need be.

My Apartments are literally out the back gate of Bliss, 1 bedrooms here are pretty cheap, havent had my car stolen yet, might be something to check out. Most of the tenants here are military including myself. Here's a link..

Timberwolf Apartments for Rent | Apartment Finder

Red370 · 01-07-2010, 08:21 AM

sorry for the thread hijack, back on topic!

MightyBobo · 01-07-2010, 08:30 AM

*EDIT*
Gah, lots of responses since I typed this - this is in response to Z eliminators post about his drag strip times.

Im assuming your 60' times are 1.97...and not .97. That'd make a lot more sense.

On the other hand, I cant help but ask...why do we need to look at your times? Anyone with experience knows what the car is "GOOD" to run with a decent driver (I won't touch the whole fact that AT's are easier to launch than the M6). The times you're running seem right on line with what they should be for someone with experience, especially with those big-*** DR's you're using.

No surprise on the heat soak issues...thats any car that gets hot, but as we all know, the 370's particularly susceptible to it...

I don't know, I guess I'm missing the purpose of the post lol.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	If you are winning by a full second then your competition is lacking in the skill dept. I'm assuming you are talking a full second et to et. What are you running, btw? A well driven 05-up GT should be good for mid thirteens. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 19	I think you guys should look at the times my 7 AT 370z sports is running. 12.8009. (elevation 560 ft) (1.97. 60 ft times.) The time slips are posted in the " drag section ". the car is a stock moter,with stillen exhaust. Berk cats, stillen G3 intake and 4.08 gears. I now have the headers and under size crank pulley, It ran these times on the stock 19 inch factory tires. I now have 18 inch volk t-37's with 305 35 18 drag radials. 12.6;s coming soon. Now when i got to the track the car is lightned by removing the spare tire, front passenger seat, all tools and mats..With the wheels and brail battery the car has lost another 60lbs of weight. I can also tell you that as the moter gets hot the 370z slows down to 12.95 to 13.20. I have played with the ecu with my Cobb and it now has the revlimiter set at 8100. Its alot faster now as i wheel hop in first and second gear. I have made my own fuel map for the car but the timming can be adavance yet. RWHP with out the headers and pully is 292. In 'mm" the tranny shifts hard and fast. A member of our Z club as a 2006 mustang gt and it runs 13.5's to 13.6. It has some mods to it, intake and exhaust. Sam at GTM will have my SC ready for me by mid April, the car will also have a 2800 to 2900 torque converter in it. It should run 11.7's (GTR times). I have found that a lot of guys run there cars at the track all tricked out and tell you thats it bone stock. They run lower air presure in there tires and any thing else that they can think of including a flashed ecu. Its amasing how the guys who think that there cars are fast on the street have cardiac arrest when they get there time slips at the track. Much slower that times that are posted by the car magazines. I can not wait to get my new maps for the Cobb,. If any of the mustang guys want to run me N/A or with the SC please let me know. I look forward to the race at the track. __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015. Last edited by Z eliminator; 01-07-2010 at 07:24 AM.

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Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	I too will be looking closely at the SCs coming out and hope I will be able to afford one. Im looking for more overall HP and TQ gain as a whole thur the whole RPM range on a consistent basis and not an overall HP/TQ peak number. Ive had turbos and not SCs before so Im not real familar with them, so what would be a good HP/TQ gain as a whole thru the RPM range? Again not looking for a peak gain but I guess an average gain that is ther all the time? __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

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MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 52	EDIT Gah, lots of responses since I typed this - this is in response to Z eliminators post about his drag strip times. Im assuming your 60' times are 1.97...and not .97. That'd make a lot more sense. On the other hand, I cant help but ask...why do we need to look at your times? Anyone with experience knows what the car is "GOOD" to run with a decent driver (I won't touch the whole fact that AT's are easier to launch than the M6). The times you're running seem right on line with what they should be for someone with experience, especially with those big-*** DR's you're using. No surprise on the heat soak issues...thats any car that gets hot, but as we all know, the 370's particularly susceptible to it... I don't know, I guess I'm missing the purpose of the post lol. __________________ I don't own a car anymore. Last edited by MightyBobo; 01-07-2010 at 08:34 AM.