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flashburn 09-24-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 735227)
OK,

So in terms of the "clunk" sound and feeling when you close the door as it relates to the Miata's awesomeness, it's like this:

2011 Mustang GT - 63%
2009-2010 370Z - 31%

Look for my `Stang Door Swap DIY thread in a few days! :ughdance:

m4a1mustang 09-24-2010 11:59 AM

Do you think the hinges can handle the torque?

flashburn 09-24-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 735311)
Do you think the hinges can handle the torque?

Gonna go with some custom Carbon Fiber hinges. Should help minimize the difference in weight from the two.

ProfessorDave 09-24-2010 01:47 PM

Miata doors are engineered to be supported by structures beneath the frame, dramatically reducing unsprung weight. And they fling open if the driver stops suddenly, producing a flap-drag effect like airplanes when they land.

daleks 09-24-2010 01:53 PM

Ford issues TSB for 2011 Mustang over clutch problems — Autoblog

Nothing to see here. Move along.

m4a1mustang 09-24-2010 02:09 PM

Pretty awesome. There were some clutch pedal issues reported and Ford jumped on it right away. :tup:

And the people reporting the problems were tracking the cars, too. And Ford knew it. By high RPM shifting they mean 7,000 RPM powershifts. :D

shadoquad 09-24-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by daleks (Post 735625)

This is unacceptable. I've never heard of a car having a Technical Service Bulletin or recall of any kind. This must be new and unique to Ford's "Mustang" product. I, for one, am writing my senator. :usa:

cashbred 09-24-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 733615)
The GT would beat the 370Z on anything bigger than than auto-x course. This car is quite insane.

i just think you all have slow 370z sorry and can i post the video of me beating my brothers 5.0 and his best friends 5.0 ....im sure one of them know how to drive haha

MightyBobo 09-24-2010 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cashbred (Post 736116)
i just think you all have slow 370z sorry and can i post the video of me beating my brothers 5.0 and his best friends 5.0 ....im sure one of them know how to drive haha

Apparently not, because stock for stock, its not even a race really...

ImportConvert 10-03-2010 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 352988)
I had a unique opportunity this weekend to drive my friend's new Mustang GT500 around Florida. Having owned my 370 for about 9 months and read quite a bit about the GT500, I was curious how a 540hp hotrod compares to a more refined sports car like the Z. Since I'm sure you guys have probably read about the GT500 as well and perhaps had an owner try to race you, here are some interesting comparisons.

Engine:
Well, the rumble of that V8 is pretty sweet. It's not incredibly loud and is probably on par with a catback and hfc install on our car (in terms of overall loudness). Unfortunately, we'll never replicate that deep rumble. Add the supercharged whine over 4500rpm and it's darn cool to 'get on' this car.

Acceleration:
While the GT500 has incredible power, the weight of the car makes it feel very comparable to the 370Z in terms of butt dyno. There is a more visceral experience with the noise of the V8 though.

Handling:
The car is very responsive to wheel input but doesn't feel connected to the road at all. Despite the low profile 18" tires, I didn't have that sense of the road surface and steering feel of the Z. The size of the car makes it feel cumbersome as well.

Braking:
Those Brembos are nice. Braking is top notch.

Interior 'bits':

Shifter: a very cool pool cue knob and a notchy, extremely short throw shifter. I was amazed at the effort it took to shift gears...you'd think the Z was butter compared to this car. Throws were too short for my liking at maybe 1.5" (unbelievably short). Combining the short throw and force needed to shift, I kept thinking I missed the shift. The throttle response made it very easy to rev match downshifts the traditional way. Clutch 'take' was very much like our car but perhaps even higher off the floor.

Fit and finish:
Pretty darn good. The seats are better than those in the Z. They just fit perfectly and give incredible head, neck and back support. The car is laden with plastic around the dash and center console which reminds you that you're still in a Ford.

Lighting:
I can't believe Nissan didn't do something like this for the Z. You guys tearing apart your cars to change your interior lighting colors would die with envy. All the lighting in the GT500 is customizable (ambient feet, doors, cupholders, and ALL dash lighting). The car's computer lets you change the LED color of all these lit areas and you even have three custom options where you can mix up your own colors. Why a Z doesn't have this is beyond me.

Nav:
Ford put a voice controlled nav in the car which seems to work pretty well. The shining upside is that you can always input a new route using voice commands, but have to stop like every other nav to do it by hand. Gone are the days of pulling over to put your destination in. It couldn't figure out long street or town names, but gives you the ability to verbally spell things which makes up for the shortcoming.

Overall, I like my Z better. We won't be able to compete with the V8 sound, I'd bet our cars are quicker in a straight line unless the GT500 is driven by a very skilled person. In corners, there's no question. Most GT500 owners will be worrying about spinning out while you zip past them given the loads of power, lack of road feel, and beefiness of the car. The GT500 feels large, heavy, and lacks the finesse of the Z.

If you can get a chance to drive one though...go for it :).

Having raced a 2009 GT500 (the 500hp one) and having played with plenty of Zs with mods ranging from full bolt-ons (265whp 6-speed, killed it by 2 cars from 60-120) to a single turbo (pretty close race, just played tag a bit, never trulyl ined up and honked, but he never was able to get away from me) and beating every one of them except a late model 350 with rumored spray/turbo/ etc (never confirmed mods) in my WS6, I can tell you that a new GT500 would slaughter you in any kind of acceleration competition you want to have. It also laps quite a bit faster around VIR. No comparison in numbers, regarless of what you "felt".

I test drove a 370Z the other day and if felt IDENTICAL to my WS6. The numbers seem to indicate that it is. That 2009 GT500 beat me by 4 cars 60-115.

ProfessorDave 10-03-2010 06:01 AM

I saw a Roush Mustang yesterday. The growl of the engine was really aggressive and turned heads. It was like all 435 HPs were talking at once. And the Shelby has over 500 HP? Must be crazy fast.

daisuke149 10-03-2010 09:48 AM

okay i havnt read every post.. only the first page.. but the z nav lets you do voice input while driving or stopped.

spearfish25 10-03-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 748387)
I can tell you that a new GT500 would slaughter you in any kind of acceleration competition you want to have. It also laps quite a bit faster around VIR. No comparison in numbers, regarless of what you "felt".

Read my post again. I essentially state that the GT500 requires driver skill to be driven quickly where the Z is more forgiving of less experienced drivers. If I were to lap VIR in both cars, I guarantee I'd be faster in my Z. I wasn't posting Michael Schumacher's experience with both cars, just my own. Driven by someone who can handle the GT500, it'll lap faster than a Z due to the straightaway speeds it can achieve. This is purely a horsepower advantage. The GT500 suspension is archaic and inferior to the Z, and the Z could definitely achieve higher cornering speeds.

m4a1mustang 10-03-2010 04:09 PM

So, is it a 2010 or 2011 GT500?

Considering the review was written in January, I'm 99% sure it's a 2010.

If you don't know much about Mustangs, the 2011 GT500 is on the order of ~9 seconds quicker than the 2010 around VIR. It will wipe the floor with just about any sub $100k car on a road track, and it's not simply due to a horsepower advantage.

Red__Zed 10-03-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cashbred (Post 736116)
i just think you all have slow 370z sorry and can i post the video of me beating my brothers 5.0 and his best friends 5.0 ....im sure one of them know how to drive haha

lol ok...I'd believe it if you meant an 89 or so 5.0...


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