GT500 vs 370Z

roplusbee · 09-23-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

Ha ha im sure you like to believe that but the 2011 GT will have its way on any track where you can average near triple digit speeds...

That sounds like a High Speed Ring type course. On a road course like Tsukuba or Leguna Seca would test the limits of the vehicle (and driver). I doubt you coud average near 3 digit speeds on those courses. Just another point of view to consider when compairing vehicles...........

The GT is no slouch in anyway, but I am still not so confident in it's "improved" suspension setup.

m4a1mustang · 09-23-2010, 02:06 PM

The GT would beat the 370Z on anything bigger than than auto-x course. This car is quite insane.

shabarivas · 09-23-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee

That sounds like a High Speed Ring type course. On a road course like Tsukuba or Leguna Seca would test the limits of the vehicle (and driver). I doubt you coud average near 3 digit speeds on those courses. Just another point of view to consider when compairing vehicles...........

The GT is no slouch in anyway, but I am still not so confident in it's "improved" suspension setup.

Laguna Seca? Are you serious? The Z would not stand a chance against the 2011 GT - You must not have been @ Seca much.

Tsukuba - would be close between the two perhaps but have you looked @ seca? there are some serious 80 -> 110 sprints where we will loose a LOT of time to the stang. A roughly average speed of about 80 mph (for the track) will not help us at all...

You are comparing different animals - what the stang looses in the turns it will MORE than make up for in the straights.

m4a1mustang · 09-23-2010, 02:12 PM

I could see Tsukuba being close, but the GT will still win.

And yes, there'd be no chance for the Z at Laguna.

shadoquad · 09-23-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I could see Tsukuba being close, but the GT will still win.

I don't know. The Z probably has its best chance at a course like Tsukuba. Would probably get blown out at Laguna Seca, though. And most likely owned anywhere with a nice, long straight. Oval courses are completely out lol.

m4a1mustang · 09-23-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I don't know. The Z probably has its best chance at a course like Tsukuba. Would probably get blown out at Laguna Seca, though. And most likely owned anywhere with a nice, long straight. Oval courses are completely out lol.

It does have a better shot at Tsukuba, but the GT has more power and better brakes, so it's going to pull the Z from the final hairpin all the way through to turn one, and out of 1 into the next left hand hairpin... There are very few bits of Tsukuba where the Z would be able to make up time as it's really just hairpins connected by short straights.

Like I was saying before. A real road track... GT wins 99% of the time.

Auto X... Z.

shadoquad · 09-23-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

It does have a better shot at Tsukuba, but the GT has more power and better brakes, so it's going to pull the Z from the final hairpin all the way through to turn one, and out of 1 into the next left hand hairpin... There are very few bits of Tsukuba where the Z would be able to make up time as it's really just hairpins connected by short straights.

Like I was saying before. A real road track... GT wins 99% of the time.

Auto X... Z.

Thank God you dress nice, so that I don't have to respect you for your mind.

j/k

Actually, now I'd really love to see a Nismo Z (or even sport package) take on a Stang GT (with similar sport trim/packages), and hash it out at Tsukuba! Because I don't think the Stang would win, at least not by a large margin. I think a Z stands a fighting chance.

m4a1mustang · 09-23-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Thank God you dress nice, so that I don't have to respect you for your mind.

j/k

Actually, now I'd really love to see a Nismo Z (or even sport package) take on a Stang GT (with similar sport trim/packages), and hash it out at Tsukuba! Because I don't think the Stang would win, at least not by a large margin. I think a Z stands a fighting chance.

It would not be a large margin but it'd still win.

shadoquad · 09-23-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

It would not be a large margin but it'd still win.

I'm getting my passport, we're shipping our cars to Japan, and we're duking this out.

m4a1mustang · 09-23-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I'm getting my passport, we're shipping our cars to Japan, and we're duking this out.

Not fair, though, since you have base brakes.

shadoquad · 09-23-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Not fair, though, since you have base brakes.

I make no excuses.

m4a1mustang · 09-23-2010, 02:31 PM

Well, I'm going to give you a head start and spin you out NASCAR style.

Bump 'n run!!!!!!!!

shabarivas · 09-23-2010, 02:58 PM

LOL.... I dont get why people get so up in arms about their car being the FASTEST EVER!!! Seriously - every year there will be a newer faster and better car in the market. The competition is what keeps the HP up as years go by.

I got my Z for one reason - driving experience - I mean yes she is fast and handles amazingly - but you have to be honest withyoursef and give credit where credit is due. The new stang is one bad MFer - honestly if I had an extra 30k lying around it would be spent on a stang. Ford has done AMAZING things in the last few years and I look forward to Nissan responding.

Dont get me wrong - I will eventually SC my Z and make up for that difference - but that debate will go on for ever - what if he SC's his 2011 GT lol

theDreamer · 09-23-2010, 03:00 PM

But my car is faster, done!

m4a1mustang · 09-23-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

LOL.... I dont get why people get so up in arms about their car being the FASTEST EVER!!! Seriously - every year there will be a newer faster and better car in the market. The competition is what keeps the HP up as years go by.

I got my Z for one reason - driving experience - I mean yes she is fast and handles amazingly - but you have to be honest withyoursef and give credit where credit is due. The new stang is one bad MFer - honestly if I had an extra 30k lying around it would be spent on a stang. Ford has done AMAZING things in the last few years and I look forward to Nissan responding.

Dont get me wrong - I will eventually SC my Z and make up for that difference - but that debate will go on for ever - what if he SC's his 2011 GT lol

Well if you want to get an idea of a basic SC and suspension upgrade on the 5.0, look at the Shelby GT350 (don't actually LOOK at it because it's hideous, but check the numbers.) It uses Ford Racing's stage 1 blower (525hp) and does 0-60 in 3.7, 1/4 in 12.0 @ 122, and corners at 1.05G.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	The GT would beat the 370Z on anything bigger than than auto-x course. This car is quite insane. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I could see Tsukuba being close, but the GT will still win. And yes, there'd be no chance for the Z at Laguna. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Well, I'm going to give you a head start and spin you out NASCAR style. Bump 'n run!!!!!!!! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	But my car is faster, done! __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

09-23-2010, 02:58 PM	#148 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	LOL.... I dont get why people get so up in arms about their car being the FASTEST EVER!!! Seriously - every year there will be a newer faster and better car in the market. The competition is what keeps the HP up as years go by. I got my Z for one reason - driving experience - I mean yes she is fast and handles amazingly - but you have to be honest withyoursef and give credit where credit is due. The new stang is one bad MFer - honestly if I had an extra 30k lying around it would be spent on a stang. Ford has done AMAZING things in the last few years and I look forward to Nissan responding. Dont get me wrong - I will eventually SC my Z and make up for that difference - but that debate will go on for ever - what if he SC's his 2011 GT lol