remote start ?

Wicked Nestor · 01-12-2009, 09:31 AM

I'm new to nissan,
so please pardon my ignorance.

I Know The Z Dosn't come With remote Start { No Nissan has It }

But My Question Is,

Is This Something The Dealer Would Install before I Take delivery ?

Or Would it Be 100% Aftermarket ?

Thanks

Dan

TWatson · 01-12-2009, 11:11 AM

not sure about autos but no dealership will install a remote start on a M/T to much risk if u leave it in gear and start it just my 2c

example

guy "hey dude check ouit my new 370 sitting across the street"
dude " what one is it?"
guy "the black one facing us"
dude "man that thing looks awesome what options does it have"
guy "sport package 6 speed with nav"
dude "thats awesome ho much did it run"
guy " it was about 36grand giver take"
dude "damn thats not to bad it looks like a freeking porsche"
guy "i know! thats not the best part check out this ,clicks button,"
dude "what did that do?"
HUGE CRASHING SOUND screeching tires crunching osund
guy "that was my remote start"
dude "o @#@#% i think your car jsut got hit"
guy "haha dude its parked over there like i said before "turns tward street" OH @$^^
dude "soo it is your car what happend?"
guy "@%@^@#&@%& i left it in gear."

RCZ · 01-12-2009, 12:43 PM

^ really? You dont think they may have thought about this when they made remote start systems?

A lot of my buddies had remote start on their STI's.. it just didnt turn on when it was in gear...

TWatson · 01-12-2009, 01:05 PM

im sorry my mistake i wasnt aware sti's could start without pushing the clutch in... to get around this my evo has to have that portion bypased when using remote start so it will start in gear "because of the bypass"

BanningZ · 01-12-2009, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWatson

not sure about autos but no dealership will install a remote start on a M/T to much risk if u leave it in gear and start it just my 2c

This problem was solved about a decade ago. DEI almost went out of business because of it. The gear does not engage, but the engine will start. The engine will die if the key is not placed in the ignition in most cases when you try to drive the car. I imagine this would work with the proximity key with the 370Z.

On my xB, if I hit the brake on accident before putting the key in, the engine kills on me. Gets annoying if you're absent minded.

Crash · 01-12-2009, 05:25 PM

I don't see this happening until someone figures out how to tap the RFID system.

BanningZ · 01-12-2009, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash

I don't see this happening until someone figures out how to tap the RFID system.

Why not? Its just the ignition that needs to be engaged. The key in the 370Z still works.

Crash · 01-12-2009, 05:32 PM

Right, but A) you need to bypass the kill on the system that is triggered by the absence of the RFID key, and B) You need to tell that system that the car is ON! LOL. With a standard key, it's just a matter of manually turning the key in the ignition to the ON position. Whereas with the RFID system and Push start system, you'll need to NOT push the button with the break/clutch down (or else you'll get the fantastic grinding)

So the system would need to tell the RFID to turn the car to the ON position. It's not just telling the ignition to work when the security system is that integrated.

BanningZ · 01-12-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash

Right, but A) you need to bypass the kill on the system that is triggered by the absence of the RFID key, and B) You need to tell that system that the car is ON! LOL. With a standard key, it's just a matter of manually turning the key in the ignition to the ON position. Whereas with the RFID system and Push start system, you'll need to NOT push the button with the break/clutch down (or else you'll get the fantastic grinding)

So the system would need to tell the RFID to turn the car to the ON position. It's not just telling the ignition to work when the security system is that integrated.

Hmm interesting point. I will certainly not be a guinea pig to find out if that will be as problem, and if it is I am definitely not going to be the first to try out a new remote system that has tapped into the RFID.

First wave Early adoption of technology, is not my bag.

Crash · 01-12-2009, 05:46 PM

^^ Ditto!

I don't care about remote start in the slightest. One of the fun parts of driving a push button start car is the push button!

Supergoji · 01-13-2009, 08:54 AM

but what about those brick cold days when your chillin with a really hot girl and you want to warm the car up for her and your self without freezing your *** off for like 5 minutes.

CrownR426 · 01-13-2009, 09:04 AM

Hmmm?
My G35 has it, I don't know why we can't get it on the Z?
I'm definetly gonna try to get an aftermarket remote starter tho!

Wicked Nestor · 01-13-2009, 09:28 AM

Thanks , VERY Helpful. I Mean That, REALLY Helpful

nogoodname · 01-13-2009, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWatson

not sure about autos but no dealership will install a remote start on a M/T to much risk if u leave it in gear and start it just my 2c

example

guy "hey dude check ouit my new 370 sitting across the street"
dude " what one is it?"
guy "the black one facing us"
dude "man that thing looks awesome what options does it have"
guy "sport package 6 speed with nav"
dude "thats awesome ho much did it run"
guy " it was about 36grand giver take"
dude "damn thats not to bad it looks like a freeking porsche"
guy "i know! thats not the best part check out this ,clicks button,"
dude "what did that do?"
HUGE CRASHING SOUND screeching tires crunching osund
guy "that was my remote start"
dude "o @#@#% i think your car jsut got hit"
guy "haha dude its parked over there like i said before "turns tward street" OH @$^^
dude "soo it is your car what happend?"
guy "@%@^@#&@%& i left it in gear."

hopefully that is a joke....lol

It can be installed on the AT with the viper system.... I went to futureshop with my G and they did the viper install...took 8 hrs....lol....had to do a mod for it to be installed.... I could have gotten the remote start,but i decided to just upgrade it later...... Futureshop is Best-Buy in the States

People who say that Best-Buy does not know how to install stuff right is clearly going to the wrong ones.....go to another best-buy and just pop in the Garage and talk to the installers and see if they are experienced.....the one I go to install stuff on audi's, infiniti's, bmw's.....etc......so some shops know what they are doing and if Best-Buy says they cannot install a viper system on a Nissan/Infiniti AT, they are lying or just plain olde ignorant !!!!

Crash · 01-14-2009, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supergoji

but what about those brick cold days when your chillin with a really hot girl and you want to warm the car up for her and your self without freezing your *** off for like 5 minutes.

If she doesn't like the seat warmers or they're too slow, she can sit on my lap or my face.

(Benefits of a cold day!)

01-12-2009, 09:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
Wicked Nestor Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Philly Posts: 5 Drives: 05 Bonneville Rep Power: 16	remote start ? I'm new to nissan, so please pardon my ignorance. I Know The Z Dosn't come With remote Start { No Nissan has It } But My Question Is, Is This Something The Dealer Would Install before I Take delivery ? Or Would it Be 100% Aftermarket ? Thanks Dan

01-12-2009, 05:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	I don't see this happening until someone figures out how to tap the RFID system. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-12-2009, 05:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	Right, but A) you need to bypass the kill on the system that is triggered by the absence of the RFID key, and B) You need to tell that system that the car is ON! LOL. With a standard key, it's just a matter of manually turning the key in the ignition to the ON position. Whereas with the RFID system and Push start system, you'll need to NOT push the button with the break/clutch down (or else you'll get the fantastic grinding) So the system would need to tell the RFID to turn the car to the ON position. It's not just telling the ignition to work when the security system is that integrated. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-12-2009, 05:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	^^ Ditto! I don't care about remote start in the slightest. One of the fun parts of driving a push button start car is the push button! __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-13-2009, 09:04 AM	#12 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 848	Hmmm? My G35 has it, I don't know why we can't get it on the Z? I'm definetly gonna try to get an aftermarket remote starter tho! __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

01-12-2009, 11:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
TWatson Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 16 Drives: evo IX Rep Power: 16	not sure about autos but no dealership will install a remote start on a M/T to much risk if u leave it in gear and start it just my 2c example guy "hey dude check ouit my new 370 sitting across the street" dude " what one is it?" guy "the black one facing us" dude "man that thing looks awesome what options does it have" guy "sport package 6 speed with nav" dude "thats awesome ho much did it run" guy " it was about 36grand giver take" dude "damn thats not to bad it looks like a freeking porsche" guy "i know! thats not the best part check out this ,clicks button," dude "what did that do?" HUGE CRASHING SOUND screeching tires crunching osund guy "that was my remote start" dude "o @#@#% i think your car jsut got hit" guy "haha dude its parked over there like i said before "turns tward street" OH @$^^ dude "soo it is your car what happend?" guy "@%@^@#&@%& i left it in gear."

01-12-2009, 12:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	^ really? You dont think they may have thought about this when they made remote start systems? A lot of my buddies had remote start on their STI's.. it just didnt turn on when it was in gear...

01-12-2009, 01:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
TWatson Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 16 Drives: evo IX Rep Power: 16	im sorry my mistake i wasnt aware sti's could start without pushing the clutch in... to get around this my evo has to have that portion bypased when using remote start so it will start in gear "because of the bypass"

01-13-2009, 08:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
Supergoji Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Westchester NY Age: 36 Posts: 311 Drives: Z32tt / Supra tt Rep Power: 256	but what about those brick cold days when your chillin with a really hot girl and you want to warm the car up for her and your self without freezing your *** off for like 5 minutes.

01-13-2009, 09:28 AM	#13 (permalink)
Wicked Nestor Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Philly Posts: 5 Drives: 05 Bonneville Rep Power: 16	Wow, really ? Thanks , VERY Helpful. I Mean That, REALLY Helpful

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