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NorthStyle 10-30-2018 06:46 PM

Those aren't LMs... they look to be a version of the Rays Gram Lights 57CR, including the insignia on the bottom of the spoke by the lip.

https://i.imgur.com/2rvcYP0l.png

cv129 10-30-2018 09:17 PM

I really don’t understand Nismo’s thinking on the wheels and the suspension arms. The parts are just rebranded items that now carry a premium for having the word “Nismo”....

Lol I remember seeing a FB post from MA with the new Nismo arms installed, I was wondering who’s the sucker that bought those. Now I know it’s for this build, thank god.

Spooler 10-30-2018 09:29 PM

I beat they will be 18's. Looks like they will be hard to get and sizes will be limited which sucks. 18x10.5 or 18x11's for a square setup would be great. Doubt we get anything in a 19. I would like some 19x10's and 19x11.5's like I have on my car now. I need a set of track wheels.

cv129 10-30-2018 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3795871)
I beat they will be 18's. Looks like they will be hard to get and sizes will be limited which sucks. 18x10.5 or 18x11's for a square setup would be great. Doubt we get anything in a 19. I would like some 19x10's and 19x11.5's like I have on my car now. I need a set of track wheels.

Z1 said they are 18x10.5 square on the show car

Spooler 10-30-2018 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3795875)
Z1 said they are 18x10.5 square on the show car

I would need to look at their Instagram post again. I knew they were 18x??? 18's just look like crap on a Z. 19x10.5's would be much better. I have no idea why Ray's is very stingy with their wheel sizes. You gotta buy a big batch to get them made. Crazy.



Crap, I have been looking around and these will probably be the only ones you can run in an 18x10.5 square without spacers. I may have to nut up and get a set.

NorthStyle 10-31-2018 12:41 AM

The 57CRs are available in 19-inch sizes... and Rays makes plenty of wheels that can be ran without spacers. I guess it really depends on which model you're wanting.

AlWakRa 10-31-2018 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3795877)
I would need to look at their Instagram post again. I knew they were 18x??? 18's just look like crap on a Z. 19x10.5's would be much better. I have no idea why Ray's is very stingy with their wheel sizes. You gotta buy a big batch to get them made. Crazy.



Crap, I have been looking around and these will probably be the only ones you can run in an 18x10.5 square without spacers. I may have to nut up and get a set.

They are 18x10.5 the one on the CS23, but no mention to offset. I made some research and found good options to be nearly in good spec for extreme square setup, I can post them in wheel fitment thread or open a thread for square setups discussions.

JARblue 10-31-2018 08:49 AM

Wonder what that build will cost if Nissan ever produces it...

NorthStyle 10-31-2018 08:52 AM

If it's the same as the 57CRs, then the offsets are either +12 or +22 in the 18x10.5, however since these are flow-formed (based off the display posted) they may be able to offer them in various offsets similar to Forgestar.

OptionZero 10-31-2018 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NorthStyle (Post 3795827)
Those aren't LMs... they look to be a version of the Rays Gram Lights 57CR, including the insignia on the bottom of the spoke by the lip.

https://i.imgur.com/2rvcYP0l.png

The wheels on the car look like 57CRs but the wheels on the display area are LMGT4's Omori Edition (limited release, probably all gone by now)

Both come in the standard sizes that Rays offers

18x9.5 +22 or +12
18x10.5 +22 or +12

Pretty weak spec for this, given that even the regular nismo comes in 19x10.2 +23 rear.

They should license the Advan GT, which is made by Rays, slap a Nismo sticker on them and use the 19 or 20 inch sizing

Lvcky69 10-31-2018 05:49 PM

it is not all that either. i was expecting like a different body style or something

hrtbrknprince 11-01-2018 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3795786)
If they sell this engine as a package, with wiring solution, SMOG certification and a factory warranty that bolts up to the stock tranny . . . hoooo boy thats a hell of a package

I would do that over a TT kit since i could drive freely on the street and have relative peace of mind, even if the HP/$ is lower than TT kit

Fast Intention's kit is about $10K for 500hp

I dunno if they can come at that pricing level . . . but i think even if it's more, it would be extremely appealing given the factors above

I'm glad I decided to focus on just paying off and aesthetic mods for my Z before committing to anything performance wise. Looks like my gamble might pay off if they offer something like this in the 10-15k range I'm game.

Rusty 11-01-2018 08:49 AM

After what was released at SEMA. Think I want a Hellaphant motor. :eek:

Spooler 11-01-2018 11:23 AM

^^^ True MOPAR guy. LOL

Rusty 11-01-2018 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3796184)
^^^ True MOPAR guy. LOL

:tup:
I want to put that motor in my PowerWagon. :D Then call it HellaphantWagon. :rofl2: 426ci+supercharger=1,000HP, plus boat load of torque. :tup:

loiro370z 11-01-2018 06:08 PM

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Rusty 11-01-2018 07:56 PM

By looking at these pictures. It looks like a factory install. Anyone say test mule?

jchammond 11-02-2018 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3796286)
By looking at these pictures. It looks like a factory install. Anyone say test mule?

? ,,,as you know the factory would never put a larger displacement TT engine in a Z car-than what’s in Godzilla!
:stirthepot:

sx moneypit 11-02-2018 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3796286)
By looking at these pictures. It looks like a factory install. Anyone say test mule?

:iagree:

ChopsZ 11-02-2018 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3795976)
Wonder what that build will cost if Nissan ever produces it...

Since it has "Nismo" written all over it, It'll be more than it's worth.


Frankly, I don't see what all the hub-bub is about this car. So what, they threw a stock 3.0L TT motor in it. There's plenty of 3.7L TT 370's running around, as well as RB26 swaps, 2JZ swaps, and LSx swaps in the 370. Anybody who can measure, cut and weld can throw in their very own 3.0L TT motor and run it with a stock Infiniti ECU or better yet, a stand alone system, and most likely for a lot less $$$.

95% of the parts on that car are already available in the aftermarket and at a lesser costs since they DON'T have "Nismo" badging slapped all over them. New, soon to be released Nismo brake pads? Big whoop. There's plenty of quality aftermarket pads out there for this car already.

In doing that particular motor swap, they dropped the front shock tower brace, but I suppose they regain some of that rigidity by adding the roll cage, though not all the way up front where it once was, and where it's probably needed, or else Nissan wouldn't have put one there to begin with.

Yeah, I don't see anything special about this car at all. It's actually rather bland. If Nissan/Nismo wanted to make a statement, they should have dropped in a stock but de-tuned GT-R motor. Direct fit with very little modification, still TT, and larger displacement than that new 3.0L, and it keeps inline with the 370's own name, as in a 3.7L (well, 3.8L for the GT-R variant). But still, the same 3.7L motor for all practical purposes.

I don't get where they're saying that this SEMA 370 is the "ultimate track car". It's not. It just has all of the go-fast parts already installed from the factory. It doesn't make it any more track oriented than any other modded 370 out there who's goal is for use on the track.

Personally, and I think I'm talking for quite a few of you here, I'd rather keep what I have over this SEMA 370. At least mine has my DNA in it, it's parts and mods I chose that I know, and know work well together, and reflex a bit of who I am. It's not put together with a "me too" kit that everyone can buy and put on... "Hey, I just bought and installed the SEMA Nismo 3.0L TT kit for my Z! Yeah, me too!".

Okay, that's it for my little rant.

Spooler 11-02-2018 09:06 AM

I think you missed the point. Nissan was looking for what kind of reaction they would get to understand what the market wanted. Back in the day, the 300zxtt was top dog in the USA. The R32 GTR was in Japan. The 300zxtt was beautiful and the GTR was just an ugly duckling. They both had about the same power. Not sure why the Z platform can't be close to on par with the GTR at a better price.

FPenvy 11-02-2018 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3796354)
I think you missed the point. Nissan was looking for what kind of reaction they would get to understand what the market wanted. Back in the day, the 300zxtt was top dog in the USA. The R32 GTR was in Japan. The 300zxtt was beautiful and the GTR was just an ugly duckling. They both had about the same power. Not sure why the Z platform can't be close to on par with the GTR at a better price.

because nissan.........

CRiZO 11-02-2018 09:19 AM

If you could buy a Z for $40k and have it be close to a GTR, why would you buy a GTR at $90k? - Nissan exists to make money. The same reason the lower end Porsches are totally neutered, they started to step on the 911's toes.

That said, the 300ZX was direct competition to the Corvette. That ship is halfway around the world by now. Nissan would need to double or triple the Z's price to stay relevant.

Spooler 11-02-2018 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CRiZO (Post 3796359)
If you could buy a Z for $40k and have it be close to a GTR, why would you buy a GTR at $90k? - Nissan exists to make money. The same reason the lower end Porsches are totally neutered, they started to step on the 911's toes.

That said, the 300ZX was direct competition to the Corvette. That ship is halfway around the world by now. Nissan would need to double or triple the Z's price to stay relevant.

I think you are missing it also. Nissan can have different levels just like Porsche. The GT2 RS is the top dog like the GTR if we are not talking about hyper cars. Do I think the standard 370z should have the TT engine in it. Noop, it should be just for the Nismo. The Nismo price will go up. I would think with the right package that should be around 55k. They need to deliver value, performance, and be visual appealing. All Z's are 911 territory. The 300zx was never competing with the Corvette. It has always been the 911. The 70's, 80's, and 90's Nissan/Datsun and Porsche were battling it out on the track. In my opinion, the Corvette was a joke. The first Corvette that was worth a crap started with the C6 and more so with the C7. Yes, I own a Corvette C7 GS but that car was for the wife. I have already owned my dream car, so I bought her dream car.

cv129 11-02-2018 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3796354)
I think you missed the point. Nissan was looking for what kind of reaction they would get to understand what the market wanted. Back in the day, the 300zxtt was top dog in the USA. The R32 GTR was top dog in the rest of the world. The 300zxtt was beautiful and the GTR was just an ugly duckling. They both had about the same power. Not sure why the Z platform can't be close to on par with the GTR at a better price.

Fixed

ChopsZ 11-02-2018 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3796354)
I think you missed the point. Nissan was looking for what kind of reaction they would get to understand what the market wanted.

I don't think I did. Besides, all Nissan has to do to look for reactions is go online and read what people are saying, even before this SEMA version came out. There's numerous threads and sites all over the web for the past 5+ years saying exactly what everyone wants from Nissan with future Z's. That's a MUCH larger base than just the crowd at the SEMA show. Plus, people online tend to be a lot more brutally honest than they are face to face with someone.

If Nissan wants to know exactly where they stand and in what direction they need to go with the next Z, all they have to do is browse the internet for a few days.

Rusty 11-02-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3796380)
I don't think I did. Besides, all Nissan has to do to look for reactions is go online and read what people are saying, even before this SEMA version came out. There's numerous threads and sites all over the web for the past 5+ years saying exactly what everyone wants from Nissan with future Z's. That's a MUCH larger base than just the crowd at the SEMA show. Plus, people online tend to be a lot more brutally honest than they are face to face with someone.

If Nissan wants to know exactly where they stand and in what direction they need to go with the next Z, all they have to do is browse the internet for a few days.

Nissan has been looking on the net. They all do. Think the net had something to do with Nissan picking MAM to do the Z. MAM has a present on the forums.

Spooler 11-02-2018 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3796403)
Nissan has been looking on the net. They all do. Think the net had something to do with Nissan picking MAM to do the Z. MAM has a present on the forums.

They have been listening too. I suggested this engine be used to one of the Nissan guys at Zdayz this year. He asked me what model should it be in. I said the Nismo of coarse with a manual. There is a difference between telling them what you would like to see and just bitching about everything. Not only that, you want it all for the same price or cheaper. Really?????

Spooler 11-02-2018 12:14 PM

He also asked me what should it be called. That is a good question, I responded. The Z names have always used the displacement numbers. 240z, 260z, 280z, 280zx, 300zx, etc. The 300z name should be used again, I responded. Just makes sense. A Z car has been part of my whole life. If I every sold one, I got another within 6 months. I have 2 at the moment. I would like to have 3. I sold my dream car, a 300zxtt in Metallic Black with Black interior.

Rusty 11-02-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3796414)
He also asked me what should it be called. That is a good question, I responded. The Z names have always used the displacement numbers. 240z, 260z, 280z, 280zx, 300zx, etc. The 300z name should be used again, I responded. Just makes sense. A Z car has been part of my whole life. If I every sold one, I got another within 6 months. I have 2 at the moment. I would like to have 3. I sold my dream car, a 300zxtt in Metallic Black with Black interior.

Someone in my area is running around in one. Seen it twice now.

Spooler 11-08-2018 12:26 PM

Please stop calling MAmotorsports about the VR30dett swap. They can't work on anything and this is hindering me getting my car up there for my work to be completed. LOL When they are ready to take orders I am sure they will let everyone know.

goeagles11 11-08-2018 12:36 PM

I wonder if MAM would partner with Nissan to buy back our VQ motors if we do the swap...obviously would help lessen the cost of the kit which won't be cheap.

Rusty 11-08-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3797598)
Please stop calling MAmotorsports about the VR30dett swap. They can't work on anything and this is hindering me getting my car up there for my work to be completed. LOL When they are ready to take orders I am sure they will let everyone know.

:rofl2:

Rusty 11-08-2018 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by goeagles11 (Post 3797603)
I wonder if MAM would partner with Nissan to buy back our VQ motors if we do the swap...obviously would help lessen the cost of the kit which won't be cheap.

You must be dreaming.

b15 11-08-2018 01:06 PM

For the cost of a VR30 swap, you're better off going TT on the VQ. Limits of the VR30 are still TBD but I'm sure we'll find out soon.

Spooler 11-08-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3797606)
:rofl2:

Funny, but not funny.

loiro370z 11-19-2018 06:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hboA9LjUxq0


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