BMW Z4M Coupe --> 370Z ??

ebruder · 12-31-2009, 09:01 AM

Wow! What a fast bunch of responses!

nogoodname... thanks for the youtube post. I watched it immediately. Richard's seeming love of the new Z4 baffled me.

areyouin729... sorry, I really didn't care for the 300ZX: to each his own

AK370Z... The SynchroRev feature seems very, very cool. I am very good at heel/toe downshifts, whether on the track or in town, but even then I am not close to what I have seen demo'd on the SynchroRev. I would have to put an oil cooler on (is this a dealer install?), and I understand that track pads would also be needed for high speed track driving (Mid-Ohio, Nelson Ledges, and certainly for Road America).

imag... I could care less about the sound system in a sports car, or nav when my blackberry has TeleNav on it. Bluetooth, though, is now almost a requirement.

kannibul... I drove a G35 before buying the Z4M. Very nice car, but not what either I or my wife wanted.

YellowZ.. at first I felt the Z4M lacked grip, and I was completely right, for as soon as I bought the car I took off the miserable OEM Conti SportContacts (1) and put on fatter Bridgestone RE-01's. What a difference! The car corners perfectly, and the grip in very predictable when reaching the limits. Also, I would be buying my current MCoupe, so I would have 1 more year of no cost maintenance and warranty.

The thing is I really like the MCoupe's styling and mechanics, but I can get a new 370Z for just a bit more $ than a 3 year old MCoupe. I will definely have to drive the Z. I looked at one yesterday, and it fits, but the weather precluded driving. Also the salesman knew the answers to only a few of my questions, and those were guesses. No run flats, right?

EB

370Zsteve · 12-31-2009, 09:12 AM

See if a local dealer will give you a 1-hr test drive in a 2009 370Z. Mine did in September.

I'm a big BMW fan, but did not feel like shelling out $55k for one I could live with at this time and in this Economy.

I wound up buying a 2009 Z in November, Sport/Touring, for well under Invoice. I am very happy with my decision 1200 miles in.

fuct · 12-31-2009, 10:01 AM

"I have a couple of choices: 1) Buy my current ride at 3 years old for ~ $30M, or 2) buy a new something else."

OMG $30 million dollars!!! jk

pulpz · 12-31-2009, 10:05 AM

Welcome, ebrude. It's nice to have another auto enthusiast on the board.

My thoughts in choosing the 370Z:

As a former 350Z owner, I am very happy with the evolution of the 370Z as performance first car. Lack of refinement in areas of interior and road noise didn't bother me either, as this is an extra car for sport driving. I have to also reiterate the sentiment of the Synchro rev - at first i thought it might be a little gimmicky and intrusive but it really is a nice feature if you choose to use.

I test drove an 09 Cayman 6MT and although its the most refined sports car ever driven, I wasn't comfortable (6'2") and it didn't invoke the emotional reaction the Z does. The muscular feel of the Z appeals to me much more so than the refined feel of the Cayman - particularly when accounting for cost difference.

The Sport package is a must, but money saved on Touring package will go a long way in covering oil cooler/brake pads for the track.

I see you are in Cleveland, I would recommend contantacting Lou Fusz Nissan (Forum Sponsor) if you have more questions. Lou has a great reputation, offers very competitive pricing, and is a Z enthusiast and is very knowledgeable.

Good luck with your decision and keep us posted.

carlos3366 · 12-31-2009, 10:11 AM

IMHO the BMW is an ugly looking car. The Z is good looking, reliable and sporty and it is great bang for the buck. Get the touring Z with sports package (nothing less), the only maintenance you'll need are oil changes and those are fairly inexpensive.

ebruder · 12-31-2009, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlos3366

IMHO the BMW is an ugly looking car. The Z is good looking, reliable and sporty and it is great bang for the buck. Get the touring Z with sports package (nothing less), the only maintenance you'll need are oil changes and those are fairly inexpensive.

Nah, the Z4M Coupe is totally gorgeous!

EB

Horseface · 12-31-2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebruder

Nah, the Z4M Coupe is totally gorgeous!

EB

Yeah, the new one looks nice. Even better in person. The Bangly one looks like heck with its silly diagonal line.

Actually, I've been weighing up the 370z and the new Z4. I've spent so long looking at the 370z even the new Z4 is starting to look ugly.

Uh oh...

Zsteve · 01-01-2010, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horseface

Yeah, the new one looks nice. Even better in person. The Bangly one looks like heck with its silly diagonal line.

Actually, I've been weighing up the 370z and the new Z4. I've spent so long looking at the 370z even the new Z4 is starting to look ugly.

Uh oh...

that does look nice, I want a convertable but it has to be a hardtop one. The soft tops just take away from the cars looks for me. Z4 roadster looks nice, hows its power?

IDZRVIT · 12-31-2009, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlos3366

IMHO the BMW is an ugly looking car. The Z is good looking, reliable and sporty and it is great bang for the buck. Get the touring Z with sports package (nothing less), the only maintenance you'll need are oil changes and those are fairly inexpensive.

The BMW reminds me of the Cheetah back in the '60's.

WICKED_GRIN · 12-31-2009, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

The BMW reminds me of the Cheetah back in the '60's.

I was thinking the same thing, especially from this photo!

Jaxxon · 02-11-2011, 09:46 AM

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NismoZ_840 · 12-31-2009, 10:19 AM

One word of caution, if you get rid of the Z4M, apparently you and the wife won't be nearly as popular at the fishbowl parties

Another two seater worth looking at is a 08+ Audi TT or even better TTS.

darkROAM_1 · 12-31-2009, 10:28 AM

And let's not forget the G37 coupe. I mean, it's kind of a middle ground there. One person I know w/ one loves the 370Z but loves the ride of her G37 more. And she races it ^_^

carlos3366 · 12-31-2009, 11:55 AM

Horseface: Now you're talking, that convertible one looks much better than the 370Z. Price wise there is no comparison, I am sure.

alphaqb · 12-31-2009, 02:16 PM

I had a 06 Z4 3.0i convertible MT. Right now I have a 2010 370Z 7AT with sports package. Here is a summary of what I think about the 2.
Winner:
Performance:370z
Ride quality: 370z
Comfort: 370z (I'm 6'3")
Visibility: Z4
Noise: Z4 (Do not overlook this, especially if it's going to be your daily driver)
Cargo Room: Z4
People gawking: Z4 (especially from women, my 370 only gets looks from teenage/young adult males

)
Engine Sound: Z4
Exhaust Sound: 370z
Audio quality: Z4 (Keep in mind both I had were stock with no premium packages)
Interior Design/Quality: 370Z
Exterior Design: 370z (however, I'd think its a tie compared to a M series)
Fun to drive: Tie

I'd say pick the 5 categories most important to you from the list and you will find your answer. Hope this helps.

12-31-2009, 09:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
ebruder Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Suburban Cleveland Posts: 20 Drives: Z4M Coupe 928S4 Rep Power: 16	Wow! What a fast bunch of responses! nogoodname... thanks for the youtube post. I watched it immediately. Richard's seeming love of the new Z4 baffled me. areyouin729... sorry, I really didn't care for the 300ZX: to each his own AK370Z... The SynchroRev feature seems very, very cool. I am very good at heel/toe downshifts, whether on the track or in town, but even then I am not close to what I have seen demo'd on the SynchroRev. I would have to put an oil cooler on (is this a dealer install?), and I understand that track pads would also be needed for high speed track driving (Mid-Ohio, Nelson Ledges, and certainly for Road America). imag... I could care less about the sound system in a sports car, or nav when my blackberry has TeleNav on it. Bluetooth, though, is now almost a requirement. kannibul... I drove a G35 before buying the Z4M. Very nice car, but not what either I or my wife wanted. YellowZ.. at first I felt the Z4M lacked grip, and I was completely right, for as soon as I bought the car I took off the miserable OEM Conti SportContacts (1) and put on fatter Bridgestone RE-01's. What a difference! The car corners perfectly, and the grip in very predictable when reaching the limits. Also, I would be buying my current MCoupe, so I would have 1 more year of no cost maintenance and warranty. The thing is I really like the MCoupe's styling and mechanics, but I can get a new 370Z for just a bit more $ than a 3 year old MCoupe. I will definely have to drive the Z. I looked at one yesterday, and it fits, but the weather precluded driving. Also the salesman knew the answers to only a few of my questions, and those were guesses. No run flats, right? EB Last edited by ebruder; 12-31-2009 at 09:04 AM.

12-31-2009, 09:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	See if a local dealer will give you a 1-hr test drive in a 2009 370Z. Mine did in September. I'm a big BMW fan, but did not feel like shelling out $55k for one I could live with at this time and in this Economy. I wound up buying a 2009 Z in November, Sport/Touring, for well under Invoice. I am very happy with my decision 1200 miles in. __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

12-31-2009, 10:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
pulpz Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 281 Drives: 09 PG 370Z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 16	Welcome, ebrude. It's nice to have another auto enthusiast on the board. My thoughts in choosing the 370Z: As a former 350Z owner, I am very happy with the evolution of the 370Z as performance first car. Lack of refinement in areas of interior and road noise didn't bother me either, as this is an extra car for sport driving. I have to also reiterate the sentiment of the Synchro rev - at first i thought it might be a little gimmicky and intrusive but it really is a nice feature if you choose to use. I test drove an 09 Cayman 6MT and although its the most refined sports car ever driven, I wasn't comfortable (6'2") and it didn't invoke the emotional reaction the Z does. The muscular feel of the Z appeals to me much more so than the refined feel of the Cayman - particularly when accounting for cost difference. The Sport package is a must, but money saved on Touring package will go a long way in covering oil cooler/brake pads for the track. I see you are in Cleveland, I would recommend contantacting Lou Fusz Nissan (Forum Sponsor) if you have more questions. Lou has a great reputation, offers very competitive pricing, and is a Z enthusiast and is very knowledgeable. Good luck with your decision and keep us posted. __________________ 2016 Cayman GTS 6MT / 2017 Q60 Sport / 2012 Acura TL SH-AWD / 2015 Lexus IS 350 AWD F-Sport (Sold) / 2009 PG 370Z Sport 6MT, (Sold) / 2003 SS 350Z Enthusiast 6MT (Sold) Last edited by pulpz; 12-31-2009 at 10:27 AM.

12-31-2009, 10:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
carlos3366 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 54 Drives: 05 camry, 97 500sl Rep Power: 17	IMHO the BMW is an ugly looking car. The Z is good looking, reliable and sporty and it is great bang for the buck. Get the touring Z with sports package (nothing less), the only maintenance you'll need are oil changes and those are fairly inexpensive. Last edited by carlos3366; 12-31-2009 at 10:12 AM. Reason: add pic

02-11-2011, 09:46 AM	#11 (permalink)
Jaxxon Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Washington DC Posts: 1 Drives: BMW Z4M Coupe Rep Power: 15	Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder . . . 114876-1366x768-bmw-z4-m-coupe-motorsport-version.jpg

12-31-2009, 10:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 24	"I have a couple of choices: 1) Buy my current ride at 3 years old for ~ $30M, or 2) buy a new something else." OMG $30 million dollars!!! jk

12-31-2009, 10:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
NismoZ_840 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Denver Posts: 16 Drives: 350Z Nismo Rep Power: 16	One word of caution, if you get rid of the Z4M, apparently you and the wife won't be nearly as popular at the fishbowl parties Another two seater worth looking at is a 08+ Audi TT or even better TTS.

12-31-2009, 10:28 AM	#13 (permalink)
darkROAM_1 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oak Cliff Posts: 78 Drives: 09 MB 370 base/sport Rep Power: 16	And let's not forget the G37 coupe. I mean, it's kind of a middle ground there. One person I know w/ one loves the 370Z but loves the ride of her G37 more. And she races it ^_^

12-31-2009, 11:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
carlos3366 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 54 Drives: 05 camry, 97 500sl Rep Power: 17	Horseface: Now you're talking, that convertible one looks much better than the 370Z. Price wise there is no comparison, I am sure.

12-31-2009, 02:16 PM	#15 (permalink)
alphaqb Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 17 Drives: 2010 370Z PG A7 Rep Power: 16	I had a 06 Z4 3.0i convertible MT. Right now I have a 2010 370Z 7AT with sports package. Here is a summary of what I think about the 2. Winner: Performance:370z Ride quality: 370z Comfort: 370z (I'm 6'3") Visibility: Z4 Noise: Z4 (Do not overlook this, especially if it's going to be your daily driver) Cargo Room: Z4 People gawking: Z4 (especially from women, my 370 only gets looks from teenage/young adult males ) Engine Sound: Z4 Exhaust Sound: 370z Audio quality: Z4 (Keep in mind both I had were stock with no premium packages) Interior Design/Quality: 370Z Exterior Design: 370z (however, I'd think its a tie compared to a M series) Fun to drive: Tie I'd say pick the 5 categories most important to you from the list and you will find your answer. Hope this helps.

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