Went to purchase Nismo today...buyers beware

babyzilla

THIS is all I'm asking for!! Yet, no one wants to make this deal happen...

littlejuanito

$35300 otd?

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Spooler

They are hard to find and if you do, don't dickydo around or the car will be sold.

babyzilla

Sigh....I have another PSA for you all.

I don't know if it's just my luck or something isn't right, but I assure you guys I'm not an *** hole. Let me explain lol

Yesterday after work I went to go see this car:
https://www.woodburynissan.com/inven...Z4EH5GM934905/

My assumption: it's a leftover car that the dealer wants to get rid of and I can possibly get a good deal out of it. Even though it's marked for 39K I knew it was ridiculous and if they wanted to sell the car they would work with me.

I called earlier just to find out about the car and they said it's a left over 2016 model that they couldn't sell new anymore because it was too old and had X amount of miles over whatever the limit is. They also said it was priced to sell. Well, KBB says otherwise. According to KBB it's about 4k over. I'm sure you all think it's overpriced as well. So while I was on the phone I said I was a serious buyer and if they lower the price just to get a feel as to what they would say. I'm speaking to the internet sales lady BTW. She says it's as low as they can go because the market is dead for this type of car and it's a manual. Is anyone else confused??? You would think they would lower the price because of that! Anyways, the dealer is actually close to my in-laws in Philly, so the drive from Baltimore would be worth it no matter which way it turned out. Mind you I was prepared to purchase.

My wife and I get there and meet up the salesman. I asked him specifically about the vehicle and he showed it to us. It looked great in the sun across the street! I told him if everything checked out I'm willing to purchase the vehicle today so long as we can come to an agreement. He went back to get the keys for a test drive. I used this time to inspect the vehicle. Firstly, my wife noticed the red filling out the "O" in nismo at the rear of the vehicle was peeling and barely left. Then I noticed the a couple deep scratches at the front and rear and the car was heavily swirled. I overlooked these things as they were cosmetic and and could corrected with a good detail. Then I inspect the bumper and....it was cracked. You can't see it from the picture, but it's bad and the whole bumper would have to be replaced. That was kind of a big deal to me, but I figured this may suggest a better deal. Anyways, the salesman came back and I voiced my concerns in which he said we can have anything fixed (of course). The salesman was really nice for once haha. We proceeded to test drive the Z. Everything felt nice and I think I fell more in love with it. The wifey, who isn't big on sports cars, really liked it as well. So I drive back to the dealer and put the e-brake on and noticed the car was still rolling. I thought it was odd and maybe I didn't pull it up enough....although you shouldn't have to pull it up much. I pulled up even higher and you could hear the brakes slipping as the car was struggling to move. Basically the cable was extremely loose. Overall, things were just not looking good and my wife and I had a bad feeling about this, but we decided to proceed to at least see where things would go. Again, I voiced my concerns with the salesman and he said that was odd and they could definitely take a look into it. All of a sudden the manager comes out out of no where and he's one of the obnoxious guys who continues to tell me there isn't a single thing wrong with the vehicle as it's BRAND NEW...about 10 times. I calmly tell him it's not brand new as it's listed as CPO and I also share my concerns with him. He replies, "Let's cut to the chase. Are you going to buy the vehicle or not?" My wife and I just look at each other and we're like WTF?? I tell the guy I'm from Baltimore and I came here to make a deal on what I thought was a nismo in pristine condition. I continue to tell him it's a big purchase and I have to think about it especially with the issues I found. He continues to say it's brand new and that he doesn't know why I'm knit picking things...he end's up walking back inside with an angry face. I was thoroughly confused at this point and my wife and I were definitely on the same wavelength. I turned around to the salesmen and told him he treated us very well, but he lost this sale because of his manager. My wife and I left to get burgers after.

I know - another long story. My point is this car isn't a "steal" like one would think. I'm pretty sure something happened with this car and the dealer is just covering it up. I hope this helps anyone who is looking into it.

cv129

So big question, how much did you want to pay for this car?

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Spooler

Keep looking. You will know when you have found the correct one. Sounds like you want a brand new car at a used price. That's not gonna happen on a Nismo.

MZ DAIZY

My ebrake was “loose” a week after I bought it. Cables stretch, that’s why they’re adjustable. 436 miles is a brand new car to me, regardless of some cosmetic damage. What do you want to pay? Did you make an offer?

babyzilla

Before discovering the overall condition of the vehicle, I wanted to pay 36 OTD max. Again, I used KBB as a guide.

I was going to make an offer until the manager came out with his show. Something just didn't feel right about the car, so I didn't want to waste time for anyone and the manager just sealed the decision for us. Like Spooler said, it has to feel right and this certainly did not.

You guys are right in that it's basically brand new, but that's not how it's listed and I don't expect to see a cracked bumper on a "new" vehicle. My family always buys new cars and never experienced a loose e-brake. My brother's nismo never had any issues. I'm still mad he sold it lol

Ideally I'd like to buy from a forum member. I'm really starting to hate dealerships.

There's gotta be a reason the car has been sitting stale for over 2 years. Something I forgot to mention when I originally called to inquire about the vehicle, the internet sales manager said, "even if it was in an accident we would fix everything and mark it as CPO and it would still be in like new condition." I just found it odd she mentioned that.

fantaZ

Do what i did to buy my 13 nismo. I looked on cargurus. found a lot around the country. I.E. i am in Fla. Found one in Ga. i knew i wanted one from a warm weather state. call dealership on ph told them i was ready to buy and was coming outta st. so don't play games with me about the condition. They really can't lie over the ph because i was flying in to see it and if it wasn't like they said over the ph i would be back on a plane to south fl. well it was what they said and i bought the car and drove it home. Oh yea they payed for my flight $105. But remember this these cars are low to the ground. before you buy make sure they put it on a lift so you can see the undercarriage.

KCZ

Another caveat:
When I was shopping for a Nismo last summer, one thing I discovered was that the "internet sales" person that you get when you call the number on a big dealer's website frequently doesn't work at or for the dealership. They work for a third party call center that may be in Timbuktu somewhere and basically have a script that they follow to tell you whatever will get you in the dealer's door. So you're not told about the cracked bumper or where the 435 miles were put on or anything else.

Now I call information for the dealer's number and try to get a real salesperson via that route.

nis350

I am not taking side here, but Sale managers are paid to sell cars, and they profile all the potential customers for obvious reasons.

Since you took the time to see the car, you probably should have made the offer and see, reasonable or not. those issues seem minor if they are willing fix them.

I personally don't know the fair value for your location, but the car does look pretty good on the pics.

Jsolo

What no camaro comparisons or chevrolet dealer experience reports?

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The BlueMax

Hey Ian spend part of the Holiday week in your state, 1st of all got an airfare to DFW for 62.00 was picked up at the airport and driven to Corvette World. When I arrived that Grand Sport Corvette was a revelation. Luckly I had some good friends in Frisco part of Dallas that let me stay a day and half with garage space. Great state, nice people but Dallas is intemadating. The trip back was epic left Frisco at 12 noon on the 4th got to little rock before refueling, next up was Memphis then on to Nashville 2nd fillup and I went through downtown as the fireworks went off. Arrived in Louisville at 11:45pm, 740 miles in just under 12 hours, this C7 is fabulous.

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Magic Bus

Yes, That's where I bought my 13Z in 2012. I had their Fleet Sales Manager, John Kakazu, who used to work for Servco (Toyota) for 15 plus years before moving to Tony. Servco, as you may know, does not sell any of their cars above MSRP, whether it be Chevrolet, Subaru or Toyota.

John took the same approach as Servco, no additional BS mark up above MSRP on any Nissan cars at Tony, even the GTR, if they had one in stock. He was a pleasure to work with and I ended up getting a very good deal on the Z. Unfortunately, John has passed away since then, and the auto sales world has lost a truly good one.