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KCZ 06-07-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbaloo (Post 3762779)
So do you now have to get the sport tech to get Bluetooth?


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Sport Tech no longer exists. You now have to get Sport Touring to get BT which is packaged with Nav (and the leather seats) but that means you don't get an LSD or SRM.

Bubbaloo 06-07-2018 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KCZ (Post 3762797)
Sport Tech no longer exists. You now have to get Sport Touring to get BT which is packaged with Nav (and the leather seats) but that means you don't get an LSD or SRM.



Wait... you don’t get LSD or SRM on Tourings? I believe you used to back then.


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mishuko 06-08-2018 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubbaloo (Post 3762801)
Wait... you don’t get LSD or SRM on Tourings? I believe you used to back then.


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2012 canadian model. I have sport touring but no nav

Have the srm, lsd and old style rays. Not a fan of the new ones...

analogman 06-08-2018 09:39 AM

KCZ, thank you for pointing out the lack of LSD or SRM on the 2019 Sport touring. I've been shopping back and forth between a 2018 and ordering a 2019 (which, unfortunately, I think will be the last of the 370Z's). I didn't look closely enough at the website to notice that going from 'Sport' to 'Sport Touring' climates LSD and SRM. Shame on Nissan (and on me for not reading closely enough). Makes the decision easier (and cheaper) for a 2018.

Bubbaloo 06-08-2018 10:33 AM

Wow. I can not believe they did that. Here I was hitting myself in the head because I thought I could have gotten leather seats /cold/hot for the same price I got my sport tech but if they eliminated LSD/SRM then they just shot themselves in the foot.


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KCZ 06-08-2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by analogman (Post 3762963)
KCZ, thank you for pointing out the lack of LSD or SRM on the 2019 Sport touring. I've been shopping back and forth between a 2018 and ordering a 2019 (which, unfortunately, I think will be the last of the 370Z's). I didn't look closely enough at the website to notice that going from 'Sport' to 'Sport Touring' climates LSD and SRM. Shame on Nissan (and on me for not reading closely enough). Makes the decision easier (and cheaper) for a 2018.

I'd look closely at the differences using the comparison tool on the Nissan website. I'm very disappointed by this. I have a back injury and was ecstatic at the chance to get the adjustable leather seats with lumbar support in a sport model, and just as quickly deflated at the realization that they'd eliminated the LSD and SRM.


I also don't understand why BT streaming audio isn't standard, because I think Nissan's entire lineup has BT hands-free phone features. Is it really a big deal to add BT audio?

trbo1007 06-08-2018 11:32 AM

Double check this on Nissans website.

Airwilf 06-08-2018 08:22 PM

[QUOTE=KCZ;3762980]I'd look closely at the differences using the comparison tool on the Nissan website. I'm very disappointed by this. I have a back injury and was ecstatic at the chance to get the adjustable leather seats with lumbar support in a sport model, and just as quickly deflated at the realization that they'd eliminated the LSD and SRM.


I have a Canadian version of a 2018 Touring Sport Coupe 6 spd manual & am disappointed in the lumbar support/adjustment. I had a serious back injury a few years back also & the lumbar adjustment helps, but it slowly reverts back to neutral or zero adjustment. I have to check the position every few minutes & have to readjust it back to max.

analogman 06-09-2018 07:45 PM

I double, triple, and quadruple checked it on the Nissan website. The 2019 Sport Touring indeed does *not* have either the LSD, or the SRM. The 'Sport' version does, but the 'Sport Touring' does not.

I'm shocked. It's appalling that Nissan would delete the LSD from the Sport touring. So basically, the new Sport Touring is just the old 'Touring' with the rear spoiler from the Sport.

I'd be totally fine without leather seats, but I really wanted the Tech package of the previous 'Sport Tech'.

That certainly rules out a 2019 for me...

KCZ 06-09-2018 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by analogman (Post 3763301)
I double, triple, and quadruple checked it on the Nissan website. The 2019 Sport Touring indeed does *not* have either the LSD, or the SRM. The 'Sport' version does, but the 'Sport Touring' does not.

I'm shocked. It's appalling that Nissan would delete the LSD from the Sport touring. So basically, the new Sport Touring is just the old 'Touring' with the rear spoiler from the Sport.

I'd be totally fine without leather seats, but I really wanted the Tech package of the previous 'Sport Tech'.

That certainly rules out a 2019 for me...

You do get the Sport brakes, 19" Rays, Potenzas, and a couple of other Sport doo-dads on the Sport Touring.

I'm feeling the same way about buying a 2019. I also noticed that the 2018 inventory on the Nissan website seems to be dropping quickly over the past month or two. I wonder if it's too late to order a 2018. We'll need to make a move soon.

jchammond 06-09-2018 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by analogman (Post 3763301)
I double, triple, and quadruple checked it on the Nissan website. The 2019 Sport Touring indeed does *not* have either the LSD, or the SRM. The 'Sport' version does, but the 'Sport Touring' does not.

I'm shocked. It's appalling that Nissan would delete the LSD from the Sport touring. So basically, the new Sport Touring is just the old 'Touring' with the rear spoiler from the Sport.

I'd be totally fine without leather seats, but I really wanted the Tech package of the previous 'Sport Tech'.

That certainly rules out a 2019 for me...

The 19' Brochure list the LSD & SRM for the Sport,Sport-Touring & Nismo only.

jchammond 06-09-2018 09:29 PM

VLSD is standard in the coupe model only (sport,sport/touring,nismo) not available in roadster.

jchammond 06-09-2018 09:37 PM

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KCZ 06-09-2018 10:22 PM

That's not the same as Nissan's website, where the comparison chart clearly says the Sport Touring coupe does NOT get the LSD or SRM. It would be great if the brochure was actually the correct version. I'm sure the dealers are clueless.

jchammond 06-10-2018 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KCZ (Post 3763348)
That's not the same as Nissan's website, where the comparison chart clearly says the Sport Touring coupe does NOT get the LSD or SRM. It would be great if the brochure was actually the correct version. I'm sure the dealers are clueless.

Got it from the dealership yesterday; as it has a breakdown of color options & all types of small details.

analogman 06-10-2018 11:59 AM

jchammond, thank you for posting the pic of the brochure! Now I'm totally confused (even more than I've already been for most of my life...). As KCZ said, the brochure differs from the website, which does indeed say the Sport Touring does *not* come with LSD or SRM.

KCZ, you're right about dealers being totally clueless. I've asked 6 Nissan dealers about this, and the response was exactly the same from each and every one of them: 15 seconds of silence on the phone (as they struggled to comprehend what LSD and SRM are), followed by mumbling something about 'whatever is on Nissan's website'. Big help...

I don't know how to get the real answer, except to actually look at a 2019 Sport Touring and see what it has. But, by then the last remaining 2018's (at least in the spec I want) will probably be gone.

In general, I've found this shopping experience to be the most frustrating of any new car I've ever bought (and I've owned 104 cars in my life, about half of them bought new). I've never experienced such blatant bait-and-switch games on price before as I have with Nissan dealers. What's up with these guys? Nissan itself seems to feed into it with their 'special discounts' for 'recent college graduates', 'military', and 'current Nissan owners'.

Bubbaloo 06-10-2018 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by analogman (Post 3763425)
jchammond, thank you for posting the pic of the brochure! Now I'm totally confused (even more than I've already been for most of my life...). As KCZ said, the brochure differs from the website, which does indeed say the Sport Touring does *not* come with LSD or SRM.

KCZ, you're right about dealers being totally clueless. I've asked 6 Nissan dealers about this, and the response was exactly the same from each and every one of them: 15 seconds of silence on the phone (as they struggled to comprehend what LSD and SRM are), followed by mumbling something about 'whatever is on Nissan's website'. Big help...

I don't know how to get the real answer, except to actually look at a 2019 Sport Touring and see what it has. But, by then the last remaining 2018's (at least in the spec I want) will probably be gone.

In general, I've found this shopping experience to be the most frustrating of any new car I've ever bought (and I've owned 104 cars in my life, about half of them bought new). I've never experienced such blatant bait-and-switch games on price before as I have with Nissan dealers. What's up with these guys? Nissan itself seems to feed into it with their 'special discounts' for 'recent college graduates', 'military', and 'current Nissan owners'.



What configuration are you looking for? You might want to hurry to get your 2018 as it was such a pain for me to get my 2018 pearl white sport tech M/T. Seems dealerships mostly get the Auto. Which really isn’t worth it.


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jchammond 06-10-2018 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by analogman (Post 3763425)
jchammond, thank you for posting the pic of the brochure! Now I'm totally confused (even more than I've already been for most of my life...). As KCZ said, the brochure differs from the website, which does indeed say the Sport Touring does *not* come with LSD or SRM.

KCZ, you're right about dealers being totally clueless. I've asked 6 Nissan dealers about this, and the response was exactly the same from each and every one of them: 15 seconds of silence on the phone (as they struggled to comprehend what LSD and SRM are), followed by mumbling something about 'whatever is on Nissan's website'. Big help...

I don't know how to get the real answer, except to actually look at a 2019 Sport Touring and see what it has. But, by then the last remaining 2018's (at least in the spec I want) will probably be gone.

In general, I've found this shopping experience to be the most frustrating of any new car I've ever bought (and I've owned 104 cars in my life, about half of them bought new). I've never experienced such blatant bait-and-switch games on price before as I have with Nissan dealers. What's up with these guys? Nissan itself seems to feed into it with their 'special discounts' for 'recent college graduates', 'military', and 'current Nissan owners'.



Yes it does; says everything the sport has+
They just didn’t list them again.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b6c331d198.png


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Bubbaloo 06-10-2018 12:26 PM

The thing I’m a little upset about is that I could’ve gotten my sport tech with touring features for what I paid. Oh well. Too late for that. I love my 2018 anyway.


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jchammond 06-10-2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbaloo (Post 3763431)
The thing I’m a little upset about is that I could’ve gotten my sport tech with touring features for what I paid. Oh well. Too late for that. I love my 2018 anyway.


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Those are prices before any additional options are added,
I’ve seen prices online vary 5-10k on new 17’s & 18’s

analogman 06-10-2018 01:49 PM

Thank you jchammond! I must be going blind... I kept focusing on the specifications and features of the Sport Touring when i went into 'build', which didn't list LSD or SRM.

The 2019 is back on the table - IF I can find a half-way honest Nissan dealer who'll sell it to me without driving me crazy with bait-and-switch games...

trbo1007 06-10-2018 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by analogman (Post 3763446)
Thank you jchammond! I must be going blind... I kept focusing on the specifications and features of the Sport Touring when i went into 'build', which didn't list LSD or SRM.

The 2019 is back on the table - IF I can find a half-way honest Nissan dealer who'll sell it to me without driving me crazy with bait-and-switch games...

Good luck! If you don’t see anything at the dealer or Nissan inventory, ask dealer to check with rep for port inventory. That’s how I got my 2018 Sport Tech manual in Pearl White. If the dealer doesn’t take an interest in your desire for a certain spec, move on to the next one. I had a dealer close to me that wanted to charge a premium to pull from port. Told him to pack sand.

Ventruck 06-10-2018 04:54 PM

Don't mean to shove in wayside input, but checked out the '19 Sport wheels.

They look way better in person imo. Not on the same level as the previous two iterations, but if they weren't two-tone that would also help.

Bubbaloo 06-10-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by trbo1007 (Post 3763473)
Good luck! If you don’t see anything at the dealer or Nissan inventory, ask dealer to check with rep for port inventory. That’s how I got my 2018 Sport Tech manual in Pearl White. If the dealer doesn’t take an interest in your desire for a certain spec, move on to the next one. I had a dealer close to me that wanted to charge a premium to pull from port. Told him to pack sand.



Lol. I wonder how packing sand turns out as an actual career


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jchammond 06-10-2018 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ventruck (Post 3763488)
Don't mean to shove in wayside input, but checked out the '19 Sport wheels.

They look way better in person imo. Not on the same level as the previous two iterations, but if they weren't two-tone that would also help.



They also have the lowest drag-coefficient.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...44f539e527.png
Sport trim,that is-heard the wheel design helps.


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KCZ 06-10-2018 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ventruck (Post 3763488)
Don't mean to shove in wayside input, but checked out the '19 Sport wheels.

They look way better in person imo. Not on the same level as the previous two iterations, but if they weren't two-tone that would also help.

Aren't the 2019 Sport wheels unchanged from 2018?

trbo1007 06-10-2018 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KCZ (Post 3763508)
Aren't the 2019 Sport wheels unchanged from 2018?

Pretty sure unchanged.

Bubbaloo 06-10-2018 08:26 PM

By the way. I was skeptical about the new wheels until I saw them in person. They look really awesome.


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UNKNOWN_370 06-10-2018 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3763502)
They also have the lowest drag-coefficient.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...44f539e527.png
Sport trim,that is-heard the wheel design helps.


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Damn.... the Z has gained nearly 100lbs with very few changes to the vehicle. They are no longer lighter than the 350z. They're about the same.

trbo1007 06-10-2018 09:09 PM

I’ve yet to see another 2018 Z in my area. You can throw metro Atlanta into that too. Don’t ask me how many Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers I see...lol.

Bubbaloo 06-10-2018 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by trbo1007 (Post 3763547)
I’ve yet to see another 2018 Z in my area. You can throw metro Atlanta into that too. Don’t ask me how many Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers I see...lol.



You can go to Avis and/or other major rental agencies and get those... LOL


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KCZ 06-11-2018 11:48 AM

I wonder when the 2019's will actually hit the lots. Does anyone remember when the '18's arrived in the US?

Bubbaloo 06-11-2018 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KCZ (Post 3763701)
I wonder when the 2019's will actually hit the lots. Does anyone remember when the '18's arrived in the US?



I’ve read the 18’s started arriving by July 2017 I believe.


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analogman 06-11-2018 01:41 PM

I've been making the rounds asking 6 Nissan dealers in my area (Pacific Northwest) about the timing for when 2019's will be in, or when an ordered 2019 would arrive. No one seems to have any idea.

The rainy Pacific Northwest isn't a hot market for 370Z's. I guess they don't sell many of them here, so the dealers don't know much about them.

Montez 06-11-2018 03:51 PM

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You can go to Avis and/or other major rental agencies and get those... LOL


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You can get the Z there as well....lol. The National/Enterprise family has 370's, I have had them twice.
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Bubbaloo 06-11-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Montez (Post 3763753)
You can get the Z there as well....lol. The National/Enterprise family has 370's, I have had them twice.

:ugh2:



Well. I’m going to cry myself to sleep now. Bye.


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KCZ 06-12-2018 06:56 PM

The Nissan website now shows dozens of 2019's in stock at US dealers. Most are AT's.


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