Car and Driver Crashes a Nismo 370Z

phantom21

Who cares about the crashed Nismo HOW DID YOU GET YOUR FEBRUARY C&D IN DECEMBER????

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Mag350Z

i don't know, i was wondering the same thing when it arrived!

pulpz

This is why Nissan went with street pads. Owners of 350Z (me included) complained about brake dust more than braking performance on the track. So expecting to swap pads before a track day isn't an issue.

I think the outstanding issue that Nissan has to address is how suddenly the stock pads fail without warning under track conditions. I still can't understand why Nissan engineering would accept this as a safe failure under reasonable use conditions.

I agree. And 0-60 in my mind isn't a primary measure of a sub 4sec. sports car's performance. At the end of the day it comes down to track times for me.

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vipor

lol might be a combo jan/feb issue? iono

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pulpz

Dunno.....but Road & Track, Motor Trend, and Automobile all show up in my mailbox on the exact same day!

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370Zsteve

Feb issue always comes end of December. Most magazines are that way.

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370Zsteve

So it was the 350Z owners' fault. Brake dust over performance.

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370Zsteve

Name one other car right down to the cheapest ones in the test that had a problem with brakes. Did any of them have the word "track"? Were they viewed as track ready? What is your point?

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370Zsteve

I want to believe! But why don't you say that about the GTI? Or the Genesis? Or......

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TheWeatherman

This was a really big article in the past by Car and Driver. The car they had was the Infiniti FX50 which runs the same brakes as our Sport and Nismos. Same exact thing happened. They had a whole data chart with it as well. After about 5 stops from 100, the brakes gave up on the FX. Stopping distances went off the chart. I just signed up for 2 track events at Road America this upcoming year. I'm not too happy I have to buy all of this stuff in a car that was advertised as a sports car. I know, we've been here and done that already, but my brother's Jeep SRT8 is more track capable than my Z. It's kind of pathetic. BTW, I think Infiniti FX50 owners could go back to the dealership and get performance pads fitted for no charge. Nice, huh?

theDreamer

Do any of the have the power the Z has, which requires it to stop from a higher MPH?
I am not saying either is to blame, but Nissan has done everything fine in advertising this car (370z). The magazines, public view, etc. have put it on the track because the Z comes from a heritage of being a track oriented car, but this is a street car first. Nothing wrong with that, but when it comes down to it there are going to be sacrifices.

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370Zsteve

According to the article, the Nismo finished mid-pack in just about every area of the track. I don't see where it was pushing a higher MPH anywhere. I love my Z, I'm very disappointed it's performance vs every other vehicle in this test, that's all.

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MightyBobo

Seriously?

RCZ, are there seriously people who try to go out on OEM pads instead of just getting proper brake pads and doing a fluid swap like they should for SAFETY'S sake??? Its barely over $300 for a GOOD set of pads!

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theDreamer

What I am saying is that the Z can reach a higher MPH and must brake from a higher MPH than other cars. It might have lost in other situations on the track which contributed to the slower time, like hitting a wall.

I am not overly disappointed in its results, it seems like the driver attempted to push the car, but in the end we see what really happened. He crashed it for whatever reason.

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pulpz

C&D did. And so will the other magazines.

It's to be expected that brake fade will occur on stock hardware after a few laps (or even runs on, say -Tail of The Dragon etc.) , but again - my concern (and C&Ds) is that for the 370z exclusively the fade is almost non-existent and rapidly becomes failure.

I'm not saying one shouldn't have to expect to upgrade pads for serious track or mountain driving. but I am saying a dramatic failure like this that can suddenly create a very dangerous situation on OEM hardware has to be considered poor engineering.

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