Nissan 370Z Forum  

Car and Driver Crashes a Nismo 370Z

I dont disagree at all. I also feel that the accusations of crappy driving seem a bit unfounded, and C&D has a lot of credibility on the line, so if

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Like Tree3Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-28-2009, 07:47 PM   #61 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MightyBobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 8,465
Drives: No cars; only bikes
Rep Power: 52
MightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to MightyBobo Send a message via Skype™ to MightyBobo
Default

I dont disagree at all. I also feel that the accusations of crappy driving seem a bit unfounded, and C&D has a lot of credibility on the line, so if they make a claim like that and PUBLISH it, you'd think they'd be confident enough to back their story up. Ive seen them fail before, and they admitted fault...why be any different this time?
__________________
I don't own a car anymore.
MightyBobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 07:55 PM   #62 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
370Zsteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Gold Coast CT
Posts: 10,599
Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S.
Rep Power: 43
370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MightyBobo View Post
I dont disagree at all. I also feel that the accusations of crappy driving seem a bit unfounded, and C&D has a lot of credibility on the line, so if they make a claim like that and PUBLISH it, you'd think they'd be confident enough to back their story up. Ive seen them fail before, and they admitted fault...why be any different this time?
The whole thing just stinks. Someone in Nissan Mktg Dept needs hiz head to roll
__________________
SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.
370Zsteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 08:02 PM   #63 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 438
Drives: Mazda mx5 2007 6sp m
Rep Power: 16
nicknick is on a distinguished road
Default

Nissan makes a sports car, the 370z, great car and compares it to the Cayman. Two problems though; the Zed overheats on the track and its brakes fail on the track whereas the Cayman does not overheat and its brakes hold up. nissan, WTF is wrong with you? For a little extra added to the purchase price, you could have eliminated all this unnecassary image affecting problems. Yes some heads in the Nissan line up should roll.
nicknick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 08:05 PM   #64 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MightyBobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 8,465
Drives: No cars; only bikes
Rep Power: 52
MightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to MightyBobo Send a message via Skype™ to MightyBobo
Default

That sub-30K price point was what was wrong with them lol.
__________________
I don't own a car anymore.
MightyBobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 08:09 PM   #65 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
ricky bobby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 316
Drives: a black car
Rep Power: 16
ricky bobby is a jewel in the roughricky bobby is a jewel in the roughricky bobby is a jewel in the roughricky bobby is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nicknick View Post
Nissan makes a sports car, the 370z, great car and compares it to the Cayman. Two problems though; the Zed overheats on the track and its brakes fail on the track whereas the Cayman does not overheat and its brakes hold up. nissan, WTF is wrong with you? For a little extra added to the purchase price, you could have eliminated all this unnecassary image affecting problems. Yes some heads in the Nissan line up should roll.
__________________
If you ain't first, you're last!
Quote:
Originally Posted by frost View Post
Without busting balls, what's the benefit of a sports car if it never speeds?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple's View Post
...turn off the Vdc and nail it!
ricky bobby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 08:14 PM   #66 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
theDreamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 30,879
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 4210
theDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 370Zsteve View Post
The whole thing just stinks. Someone in Nissan Mktg Dept needs hiz head to roll
Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.
__________________
theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN
theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY
Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram
theDreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 08:19 PM   #67 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
ricky bobby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 316
Drives: a black car
Rep Power: 16
ricky bobby is a jewel in the roughricky bobby is a jewel in the roughricky bobby is a jewel in the roughricky bobby is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by theDreamer View Post
Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.
i have oil temp issues on the street and my rotors are purple, never been on the track
__________________
If you ain't first, you're last!
Quote:
Originally Posted by frost View Post
Without busting balls, what's the benefit of a sports car if it never speeds?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple's View Post
...turn off the Vdc and nail it!
ricky bobby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 08:34 PM   #68 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
pulpz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Posts: 281
Drives: 09 PG 370Z Sport 6MT
Rep Power: 16
pulpz is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by scruffydog View Post
that'd be pretty sad if that was the case and they blamed it on the brakes...

kinda like this scene

"That fucker came outta no where!"

Ab.B | MySpace Video
:i con18:
__________________

2016 Cayman GTS 6MT / 2017 Q60 Sport / 2012 Acura TL SH-AWD / 2015 Lexus IS 350 AWD F-Sport (Sold) / 2009 PG 370Z Sport 6MT, (Sold) / 2003 SS 350Z Enthusiast 6MT (Sold)
pulpz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 08:41 PM   #69 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
pulpz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Posts: 281
Drives: 09 PG 370Z Sport 6MT
Rep Power: 16
pulpz is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by theDreamer View Post
Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.
To me not a big deal to track prep my car. But I assumed the Sport Brakes would be track ready (the 370Z equivalent to the 350Z Track Brembos). I really assumed this would be the case, considering that Nissan didn't make any changes to the Sport Brake setup for the Nismo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 370Zsteve View Post
All well and good, but the 370Z was still the only car that had this problem. I'm just sayin'...every other car seems to have made it through to the end. (Just finished reading the entire article, came in the mail today)
I agree. Doesn't discredit the Z in my mind, but it is disappointing and embarrassing knowing the Nismo 370Z cant hang with a stock Mustang after a few laps on the track.
__________________

2016 Cayman GTS 6MT / 2017 Q60 Sport / 2012 Acura TL SH-AWD / 2015 Lexus IS 350 AWD F-Sport (Sold) / 2009 PG 370Z Sport 6MT, (Sold) / 2003 SS 350Z Enthusiast 6MT (Sold)

Last edited by pulpz; 12-28-2009 at 08:44 PM.
pulpz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 08:56 PM   #70 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 2,281
Drives: 370z Touring/Sport
Rep Power: 267
kannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by theDreamer View Post
Why though?
~Oil heating issue - only on the track
~Brake heating issue - only on the track

Neither of these are within what Nissan advertise the coupe/roadster/Nismo at. They have never said the word "track" for this car, it is viewed by many as a track ready car and is very close to being track ready but it is not.
Agreed, and AFAIK, Porsche doesn't advertise their cars as track queens.

In terms of street use, it hangs with the big boys quite well.
kannibul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 09:20 PM   #71 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New England
Posts: 466
Drives: 370Z Roadster Black
Rep Power: 16
WICKED_GRIN is on a distinguished road
Default

Carbotech XP10™ is not recommended as a daily-driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.


Carbotech Performance Brakes: About Us
WICKED_GRIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 09:41 PM   #72 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MightyBobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 8,465
Drives: No cars; only bikes
Rep Power: 52
MightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond reputeMightyBobo has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to MightyBobo Send a message via Skype™ to MightyBobo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN View Post
Carbotech XP10™ is not recommended as a daily-driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.


Carbotech Performance Brakes: About Us
Ya rly?
__________________
I don't own a car anymore.
MightyBobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 10:24 PM   #73 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Florida
Posts: 95
Drives: 2011 GS Corvette
Rep Power: 16
Mag350Z is on a distinguished road
Default GTR in same Car and Driver Issue

Also in the same issue there is a small piece on the 2010 GTR. The article discusses the changes made to launch control for 2010. According to Car and Driver the GTR is now 0.8 seconds slower to 60 due to changes in the launch control program.

I also feel disappointed in Nissan. The GTR and 370Z are marketed as Porsche fighters for a fraction of the cost, but I don't read about 911 transmissions self destrucing after using launch control, or Caymans over heating or losing braking power.

From the rev up motor oil consumption to GTR transmissions, to 370 overheating problems it seems that Nissan may be sacrificing good engineering in order to meet pricing goals.
Mag350Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 10:30 PM   #74 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Florida
Posts: 95
Drives: 2011 GS Corvette
Rep Power: 16
Mag350Z is on a distinguished road
Default

actually it was 0.6 seconds slower to 60, not 0.8
Mag350Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2009, 11:12 PM   #75 (permalink)
RCZ
A True Z Fanatic
 
RCZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Miami
Posts: 6,403
Drives: '09 370Z
Rep Power: 1119
RCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to RCZ
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN View Post
Carbotech XP10™ is not recommended as a daily-driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.


Carbotech Performance Brakes: About Us
They will be fine on the road. That disclaimer is just a heads up that the pads are dusty and noisy. All track pads are dusty and noisy though so there is no alternative.

The only thing you can do is get street pads for when you aren't on the track (keep the stockers) and then swap them out the night before you go to the track...takes about 45 minutes for the average homo sapien to swap pads on this car.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mag350Z View Post
Also in the same issue there is a small piece on the 2010 GTR. The article discusses the changes made to launch control for 2010. According to Car and Driver the GTR is now 0.8 seconds slower to 60 due to changes in the launch control program.

I also feel disappointed in Nissan. The GTR and 370Z are marketed as Porsche fighters for a fraction of the cost, but I don't read about 911 transmissions self destrucing after using launch control, or Caymans over heating or losing braking power.

From the rev up motor oil consumption to GTR transmissions, to 370 overheating problems it seems that Nissan may be sacrificing good engineering in order to meet pricing goals.
You can't expect a car to cost 20k less and perform the same. Don't be disappointed, get pads and an oil cooler ( $1000 installed) and then you can go tool on those caymans all day long.
RCZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Virginia International Raceway Crashes spearfish25 Track / Autocross / Drifting / Dragstrip 18 12-13-2009 08:47 PM
New GTR R35 crashes following an Evo IX MR AK370Z Other Vehicles 33 12-11-2009 02:25 AM
Lamborghini Diablo Crashes In Front Of Crowd AK370Z Other Vehicles 8 05-01-2009 09:03 PM
Plane Crashes In Hudson River CrownR426 The Lounge (Off Topic) 9 01-17-2009 11:31 AM
$$$$$$$ Crashes BanningZ The Lounge (Off Topic) 12 01-03-2009 05:53 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2