Big disappointment to Ventus V12 EVO2 !!
 

Sorry for my vain effort on my previous article ('How to keep a Z after married'). I just wanted to give you a light humor.

Here is more useful information. Now I am very disappointed to my Hankook Ventus V12 EVO2 tires, especially on its rear.

The rears have been worn out VERY MUCH from last Nov until today of this Spring. After getting my last maintenance at last year November, I have driven my 370Z just around 2k miles very mildly only for daily driving, but now its rear tires have only 3/32nd tread !! - obviously red. (at the last maintenance the rear tires had between 5/32nd~6/32nd: so between green and yellow)

Weirdly its front tires are going pretty good. You can see an attached screenshot that I got my tires checked yesterday. This is my first time to use the Ventus V12 EVO2. Before that I was using MSS sets and Bridgestone OEM sets (both sets for all four wheels) but I'd never suffered from this unexpectedly high worn-out even with several year and semester changes.

A technician who checked my tires yesterday said that there were too much air pressure put (around 40 psi) before he adjusted them to normal 35 psi.

On my last maintenance, I let the technicians to apply official tire pressure to my Z, and personally I did not touch my tires at all after the maintenance. I also can bet that no one else ran my car because I always keep its electric key.

I still have no idea why my rear tires were worn out so much in short period, but here is my best hypothesis:
1. Temperature increased when the semester changed from last Winter to this Spring.
2. As the temperature increased, volume of air in tires also increased too.
3. The increased air volume must have affected to tire consumption anyway.
4. Because 370Z is a rear-wheel drive, it gave more influence to rear tires than any other front-wheel drive cars do.
5. Because this affordable Ventus V12 EVO2 set had low reliability, its rear was rapidly worn out in this situation.

So now I cannot decide what tires to purchase. Before this happened I thought Ventus V12 EVO2 had great price-to-performance, but now I don't think so. Maybe this tire set is good, but not for rear wheel drives ??

Not only it has been worn out very rapidly, it also gives me more stress that now I have very obvious unbalanced treads on my front and rear. I want to take advantage of a dealership promotion to purchase tires in discounted price, but it is applied to when buying 'four' tires only.

If you're thinking to try this Ventus V12 EVO2 on your Z or any rear-wheel sports car, then I recommend you to think twice.



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* I purchased and get installed the V12 EVO2 set (as new) on Feb 2016. But there was no serious rapid-worn-out problem between 2016 Winter and 2017 Spring.

So I personally guess that its reliability might have dropped exponentially from some point (with a precondition that the dealership technicians did not make mistake to put too much air pressure at some point)

That sucks. I go through rears in 1 season with pretty spitirited driving.

Didn’t read past the title but not at all surprised at your disappointment in the Ventus V12.

Are you taking their word that the tires are shot, or have you checked yourself?

Same here, but with potenza R E-11.
Good alignament,alway check air tires pressure.
no lead foot here:rolleyes:

Less than 12k miles
front look like new Just dirty

I have gotten my tires checked at a Nissan dealership.

I always take my maintenance there.

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No, I was asking if you personally verified the measurement, or are you taking the word of people who sell tires?

Tires can wear out in as quick as a few thousand miles or less if your alignment is poor.

This is true. Felix, how's your alignment?

Man, the only thing that would do that type of wear would be an alignment issue.

1. I was with a service adviser and a technician when they measured my tire treads. Sometimes I also use my own tool to measure my tire treads.

2. I believe my alignment would be in at least normal condition, even though not in the best one. Every time I buy and get new tires installed, I also get the wheel alignment too.

3. I've never been to track, still use my Z as a stock Sport Package, and mostly drive it for daily driving mildly.

any recommendation for new tire purchase?
 

Rather than writing another post, I'd better ask a question here.

1. Used mostly for very mild daily driving

2. No tuning at all, just an OEM sport package.

3. Never go to track. Only enjoy 0-60 when entering into freeway from local.


* Among these three candidates, which would be the best new tire for me? (as summer tire)

1. Faken Azenis

2. Firestone Firehawk Indy 500

3. Yokohama S.Drive


:D ??

Can't go wrong with michelin pilot supersports. There's an updated model now too, supposed to be even better.

On the TireRack I saw Michelin's new model 'Pilot Sport 4S'. Maybe you're talking about that, but I don't need that high performance tire. :D

I'd purchased and get installed a set of PSS two times, and yes I remember they obviously had pretty good lifespan.

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Consider the pilot a/s 3+. A very high performance all season. You ultimately get what you pay for.

I believe that Michelin Pilots have a good treadwear warranty. Costco has good prices.

Only expensive tires have good lifespan .. ??

I ask just because I don't know. ~_~;;

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I normally go through 2 sets of rears to 1 set of fronts.

Hankook ev02 isn't the best performance tire, but there is likely something wrong with the suspension if only the rear tires go bald in a few thousand miles while the same brand front tires held up well.

The e46 M3's are known to eat up rear tires like yours when the rear trailing arm bushings go bad. Once that bushing cracked, it's unable to maintain the rear alignment in certain conditions and shred the rear tires in a few thousand miles.

The Firehawks are produced by Bridgestone. It's the best option in that group.

This.

Felix, go personally verify the measurement of tread depth. Make sure there really is a problem before you throw money at new tires. Go get an alignment at a good local shop - not the dealership. See if that's the issue. Then you'll know what parts, if any, need to be replaced before you get new tires and shred them in 5k miles. There's no point in getting new tires until you know what happened to these, unless you want to be here in this same position in six months.

So you identified your tread wear is quicker than normal...

Go to a shop and check your alignnent, toe, camber. Personally i think your camber and toe are out. Might need an aftermarket solution.

For tires you mentioned i can say the indy500s are pretty good for the price. Im running them on my rears and they are ok. Nothing compared to re11s.

As far as tread wear.. uh yea they are ok. I am heavy footed spirited driver so its just a wear and tear item.

In my experience im running 1 set of fronts for 2 sets of rear... for the most part... except for crummy side wall punctures but thas another story.

Notice what the tech wrote at bottom of sheet;
Outside tread 6/32” inside 3/32”,,,last service they may have only recorded outside tread depth.?
Cars have about twice as much negative camber in the rear vs. front (from the factory) & if you’re spinning your tires on occasion- this is the wear you’re going to see.

I've had mine for 2 years and around 8000 miles and they still look almost new. This includes a couple of track days and a 1/4 mile or two runs. I did have a 4-wheel alignment at the time of installation and they are wearing like iron.

These tires are so much better than the original Potenzas...

Now I'm at dealership again and taking a maintenance. I told them to pay more attention to anything which can affect to rear wheels.

I'll see its result and decide what to do as my next step.

:D

Thanks for your advice. I'll refer to it.

:D

you should get at least 15k miles out of the rears. Even more because Hankooks are pretty hard compound. Theres no reason for them to wear that fast unless your camber and/or toe is out of alignment.

That or your burning out once a day.

99% chance its the car, not the tire

As a result, I decided to give one more chance to Ventus V12 EVO2. Actually it is only one brand that now I can buy with Nissan's 'buy 3 tires and another 1 for $1' promotion.

This time, of course, I also get the wheel alignment when I get them installed. Just before I got a maintenance and there came out no specific problem which might affect to rear tires' rapid wear-out (just a battery changed).

Currently I have yellow on front tires and red on rears, so I will keep the current front ones for later use.

Interestingly, I see that the Ventus V12 EVO2 has way better rating in a Korean 370Z owner forum, including from one who once temporarily resided in California. He strongly recommended to keep using it. The Korean forum members also pointed that the rapid wear-out problem must have occurred from some other reason rather than its poor quality.

Thanks everyone for useful information. And next time I'd better pay more attention to keep proper air pressure especially when the semester changes from Winter to Spring.

I hope this time I would be okay for going with the Ventus. If I suffer from any problem again, then maybe I'll post it here to let you know.

:D



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I've been running the Firestone Indy 500's on my Z for a while now and I have zero complaints.

Post a pic your post alignment print out. It should show before/after values.

I'm lucky to get 7,000 miles out of the rear, and 14,000 miles out of the front. :driving:

That's a good price...2 years ago, mine were a little more than $1100 OTD.

Michelin Super Sport tires would be my first choice.

Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires would be my first choice.

Here I upload it.

My wheel alignment was originally not bad ??

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Those are some slicks right there wow. Realistically you are only going to get up to about 15k on those Re11 OEM tires. And once they get low they get really slippery. Get those replaced stat. I've been using S04 pole positions from Bridgestone and typically see 15-20k on the rears and about 30-35k on the fronts.

So three pages later I find out you bought the same tyres again.:rofl2:

you can't go wrong with Pilot Super Sport, and if you have the extra pennies, go for the Pilot Sport 4 S.

I had PSS, very good already, switch to 4 S last season, even better!

When using my previous PSS, I got very satisfied with its long lifespan.

But now I just don't need the expensive max performance tires. :D

besides the performance, it's its lifespan that be part of the reason of the higher cost....

and didn't you start this thread complaining about a short lifespan on a set of cheaper tires?

on some products, you really do pay for what you get.