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Originally Posted by AutoX Z I can confirm that the throttle cuts when you try and left-foot brake. The 350Z did the same thing. So does the Porsche GT3, it's

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Old 12-24-2009, 12:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I can confirm that the throttle cuts when you try and left-foot brake. The 350Z did the same thing.
So does the Porsche GT3, it's not unusual in fly by wire throttle systems.

Heal and toe is no problem, but left foot braking is. Not an issue for street driving, mainly an auto-x and track thing.
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Are the oil changes really $85 a pop??
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Are the oil changes really $85 a pop??
They can be more depending on where you go. The Nissan brand Ester oil is about $12/quart.
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They can be more depending on where you go. The Nissan brand Ester oil is about $12/quart.
Thanks. I did not realize that. No big deal....
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Granted, I've only put about 300 miles on the Z so far. Well I've ran a tank of gas through it. I've had it a month almost, and I'm still struggling with smooth shifting. I feel like a noob ( to still a gamer word.)

Anyone have any tips? I'm guessing practice makes perfect is going to be the standard response.
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Granted, I've only put about 300 miles on the Z so far. Well I've ran a tank of gas through it. I've had it a month almost, and I'm still struggling with smooth shifting. I feel like a noob ( to still a gamer word.)

Anyone have any tips? I'm guessing practice makes perfect is going to be the standard response.
I find 3500 rpm to be ideal when shifting from 1st to 2nd

Hope that helps.
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Granted, I've only put about 300 miles on the Z so far. Well I've ran a tank of gas through it. I've had it a month almost, and I'm still struggling with smooth shifting. I feel like a noob ( to still a gamer word.)

Anyone have any tips? I'm guessing practice makes perfect is going to be the standard response.

Don't try to force it into gear -- the transmission doesn't like those kind of movements. You have to be smooth and deliberate with the shifter.
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Granted, I've only put about 300 miles on the Z so far. Well I've ran a tank of gas through it. I've had it a month almost, and I'm still struggling with smooth shifting. I feel like a noob ( to still a gamer word.)

Anyone have any tips? I'm guessing practice makes perfect is going to be the standard response.
When I first got my 350 I had a problem with feeling like the engine was dumping out after an up shift and reengaging the clutch. And it was because I would completely lift my foot off the throttle when actuating the clutch. So i didn't have a smooth rev match on the upshift. So I began only partially lifting off the throttle during shifts - enough to reduce load off the transmission, but not so much to allow rpms to drop very much. This worked wonders for smoothing out upshifts.
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Does braking while on the throttle help you rotate the car when cornering? (I don't really understand the braking while on throttle indications).
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Does braking while on the throttle help you rotate the car when cornering? (I don't really understand the braking while on throttle indications).
Yes, it lets you make minor corrections to the corner balance of the car to change which tires have the most grip. Basically used to shift the balance forward slightly to get better turn in grip, i.e. you're already in a corner but the corner angle increases slightly. You can also just lift but the brake "dab" is sometimes quicker.
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Yes, it lets you make minor corrections to the corner balance of the car to change which tires have the most grip. Basically used to shift the balance forward slightly to get better turn in grip, i.e. you're already in a corner but the corner angle increases slightly. You can also just lift but the brake "dab" is sometimes quicker.
It's also easier to upset the balance of the car and cause oversteer with a lift. Left-foot braking is more controlled, if you do it right.
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Judging by the handful of times I've EVER tried braking with my left foot, I can only imagine the wreck I'd have if I tried a left foot braking maneuver while in a hot corner at the track. Hmmm, 360 degree spinout or 720 degree spinout? Or maybe a roll...

Maybe my left foot braking while playing Forza 3 with my wheel and pedals will actually improve my real life left foot braking
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Judging by the handful of times I've EVER tried braking with my left foot, I can only imagine the wreck I'd have if I tried a left foot braking maneuver while in a hot corner at the track. Hmmm, 360 degree spinout or 720 degree spinout? Or maybe a roll...

Maybe my left foot braking while playing Forza 3 with my wheel and pedals will actually improve my real life left foot braking
Meh... Forza is still too arcade to be of any real benefit. The only thing it's really good for is helping you keep your hand-eye coordination up.

If you really want to get some good track simulation experience, pick up a good wheel like a Logitech G25 and head over to iracing.com. You pick up skills there that directly translate to the real track as that's what the software is designed for. It can be pricey, though I think it's worth it. Read up on the technology that goes into it... it's very impressive. I can't believe how accurate the laser scanning is... VIR in the sim is a 100% correct recreation of VIR in real life... it's amazing.
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Kinda the same with the Edmunds.com long term review. I think it is just them warming up to the car..... Some people appreciate the car as being a somewhat raw sports car, others do not know what to make of it!
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Kinda the same with the Edmunds.com long term review. I think it is just them warming up to the car..... Some people appreciate the car as being a somewhat raw sports car, others do not know what to make of it!
Yeah, I agree. It's one of the things I really like about the Z is that it is sowhat of a rwa sports car. Inputs are heavier, and torquey, and some NVH - leans towarsd american muscle more so than.....say finished Audi TT.
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