Mr. K Calls Out the 370Z

pulpz · 12-23-2009, 10:58 AM

Not sure if this a re-post. But interesting non the less.

REPORT: Nissan's Fiesty Mr. K calls out the 370Z — Autoblog

I can appreciate his spirit and perspective, but I think comparatively the 370Z is hands down is the best valued sports car market.

370Zsteve · 12-23-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pulpz

Not sure if this a re-post. But interesting non the less.

REPORT: Nissan's Fiesty Mr. K calls out the 370Z — Autoblog

I can appreciate his spirit and perspective, but I think comparatively the 370Z is hands down is the best valued sports car market.

Sounds like Mr K is losing his marbles. It would be nice to have a sub-3000lb sports car with this engine, though. Yowza.

FuszNissan · 12-23-2009, 11:12 AM

I do agree about the Miata to the 240. I would love to see the return of the 240 or the Silvia in the states. Especially now that Toyota is coming out with there small sports car.

I think you would compete with the Z trying to go with the 240, but the Silvia would A. carry the name, B. not compete with the Z. IMO

kenchan · 12-23-2009, 11:14 AM

thought i read that he has a 350Z and versa... not a 370Z.

im not much of a fan of the 350Z's so i suppose i can understand, but a versa... hummm... the honda fit is a much better car overall and more fun to drive.

vipor · 12-23-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

I do agree about the Miata to the 240. I would love to see the return of the 240 or the Silvia in the states. Especially now that Toyota is coming out with there small sports car.

I think you would compete with the Z trying to go with the 240, but the Silvia would A. carry the name, B. not compete with the Z. IMO

all of these thoughts were taken from MY head

lol, i remember hearing about this in my ZClub meeting a couple months ago. i see where he's coming from, but still..

miata...

ctzn · 12-23-2009, 12:44 PM

I can certainly understand where he is coming from, when we are all that age we will be complaining about the same thing I am sure.

semtex · 12-23-2009, 12:53 PM

I wonder what he thought of the Z32.

pulpz · 12-23-2009, 01:07 PM

I think this really points to the fact that the Z car has grown into a different market segment because the evolution of automobile technology. I think maybe his criticism is slightly misdirected, or misinterpreted.

The 240Z has naturally evolved into the 370Z as a two seat GT car with competitive HP to American muscle cars, with superior handling characteristics and style, just down market from the Corvette. And as result, established a Japanese born American Icon.

The 240SX, on the other hand is better targeted for the sub 3000 lb, 4 cyl market to compete with the miata.

The Z car has evolved in much the same way as other cars, in the pursuit to make a car more competitive within its respective market, a manufacturer will naturally engineer a car up market. For example the Honda Accord has moved up market, as has the Civic, and as a result Honda has replaced the Civic with the Fit as its subcompact econ car.

So I think his criticism of the 370Z is somewhat unfair, and really should be restated as a call to Nissan to bring back the Silvia (as Fusz says) if he really desires a car in the "Miata market".

pulpz · 12-23-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

I wonder what he thought of the Z32.

...Yeah me too. and I thought he was big on the Z33 also (as he owns one). So I'm struggling with why he would be so critical of the Z34

Liquid_G · 12-23-2009, 01:21 PM

Hmm Old news is Old.

shabarivas · 12-23-2009, 01:27 PM

well im sure we can all make a sub 3000 car - just would have to do away w/ safety features...

spearfish25 · 12-23-2009, 01:53 PM

Mr. K was born just 2 years after the Model T was introduced. While he has had the opportunity to see every single car ever produced, choosing his Versa over his Z is just a sign that his reflexes are too slow to cope with anything over 60mph.

Old people like things that are slow, comfy, quiet...why is he 100 years old and still driving anyway? Someone take his license away already!

Slynky · 12-23-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Mr. K was born just 2 years after the Model T was introduced. While he has had the opportunity to see every single car ever produced, choosing his Versa over his Z is just a sign that his reflexes are too slow to cope with anything over 60mph.

Old people like things that are slow, comfy, quiet...why is he 100 years old and still driving anyway? Someone take his license away already!

:cough cough:

Slynky · 12-23-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pulpz

I think this really points to the fact that the Z car has grown into a different market segment because the evolution of automobile technology. I think maybe his criticism is slightly misdirected, or misinterpreted.

The 240Z has naturally evolved into the 370Z as a two seat GT car with competitive HP to American muscle cars, with superior handling characteristics and style, just down market from the Corvette. And as result, established a Japanese born American Icon.

The 240SX, on the other hand is better targeted for the sub 3000 lb, 4 cyl market to compete with the miata.

The Z car has evolved in much the same way as other cars, in the pursuit to make a car more competitive within its respective market, a manufacturer will naturally engineer a car up market. For example the Honda Accord has moved up market, as has the Civic, and as a result Honda has replaced the Civic with the Fit as its subcompact econ car.

So I think his criticism of the 370Z is somewhat unfair, and really should be restated as a call to Nissan to bring back the Silvia (as Fusz says) if he really desires a car in the "Miata market".

I can subscribe to this vehicle of thought...

Zsteve · 12-23-2009, 03:14 PM

All I can say is, at 100 yrs old that man should not be driving.

12-23-2009, 10:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
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12-23-2009, 11:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	I do agree about the Miata to the 240. I would love to see the return of the 240 or the Silvia in the states. Especially now that Toyota is coming out with there small sports car. I think you would compete with the Z trying to go with the 240, but the Silvia would A. carry the name, B. not compete with the Z. IMO __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	I wonder what he thought of the Z32. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

12-23-2009, 01:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
pulpz Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 281 Drives: 09 PG 370Z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 16	I think this really points to the fact that the Z car has grown into a different market segment because the evolution of automobile technology. I think maybe his criticism is slightly misdirected, or misinterpreted. The 240Z has naturally evolved into the 370Z as a two seat GT car with competitive HP to American muscle cars, with superior handling characteristics and style, just down market from the Corvette. And as result, established a Japanese born American Icon. The 240SX, on the other hand is better targeted for the sub 3000 lb, 4 cyl market to compete with the miata. The Z car has evolved in much the same way as other cars, in the pursuit to make a car more competitive within its respective market, a manufacturer will naturally engineer a car up market. For example the Honda Accord has moved up market, as has the Civic, and as a result Honda has replaced the Civic with the Fit as its subcompact econ car. So I think his criticism of the 370Z is somewhat unfair, and really should be restated as a call to Nissan to bring back the Silvia (as Fusz says) if he really desires a car in the "Miata market". __________________ 2016 Cayman GTS 6MT / 2017 Q60 Sport / 2012 Acura TL SH-AWD / 2015 Lexus IS 350 AWD F-Sport (Sold) / 2009 PG 370Z Sport 6MT, (Sold) / 2003 SS 350Z Enthusiast 6MT (Sold) Last edited by pulpz; 12-23-2009 at 01:10 PM.

12-23-2009, 01:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Mr. K was born just 2 years after the Model T was introduced. While he has had the opportunity to see every single car ever produced, choosing his Versa over his Z is just a sign that his reflexes are too slow to cope with anything over 60mph. Old people like things that are slow, comfy, quiet...why is he 100 years old and still driving anyway? Someone take his license away already! __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

12-23-2009, 11:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	thought i read that he has a 350Z and versa... not a 370Z. im not much of a fan of the 350Z's so i suppose i can understand, but a versa... hummm... the honda fit is a much better car overall and more fun to drive.

12-23-2009, 12:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
ctzn inquisitive Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Back in Midwest, StL Posts: 384 Drives: G35 Rep Power: 17	I can certainly understand where he is coming from, when we are all that age we will be complaining about the same thing I am sure.

12-23-2009, 01:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
Liquid_G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,439 Drives: 09 370z Supercharged Rep Power: 44	Hmm Old news is Old.

12-23-2009, 01:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	well im sure we can all make a sub 3000 car - just would have to do away w/ safety features...

12-23-2009, 03:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	All I can say is, at 100 yrs old that man should not be driving. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette