AUDI TT RS vs Nissan 370Z
 

Anyone care to translate?

yes. basically he's saying the 370z kicks butt and the tt rs is slow overpriced piece of junk

Am I crazy for liking the first gen TTs best?

The TT RS killed in all areas, no offense to my Z, I love it, but the TT RS is way faster in the 0 60 and slightly faster on the track. Yea the TT RS cost big bucks and is only available in Europe right now but trust me the Audi kills the Z in creature comforts and interior quality. The Z is alot beter inside now but still not to the quality of the TT. I know I had the 1.8T manual and the 2.0T TT AT and it was nice just not as fast as I wanted as the turbo was too small, plus Ive always wanted a Z, and they have finally made one with a pretty good interior. Pricing aside the TT RS is IMO better in all areas, Quattro, turbo (with big gains when chipped), great gas milage, and alot of standard extra creature comforts, and the DSG is awesome and super quick, no road noise. I think a better coparison for the Z would be to the Audi TTS which is closer in performance and price.

Dunno about that, seems all references state 0-60 of about 4.6-4.7 s for the tt rs, which is about the same as the z under ideal conditions. Haven't seen any track comparisons. how faster is it?

And i sure hope it has more luxuries, considering the mafia-like price audi charges for its cars. 56 000 euros? that's about 85000 dollars here. that's bmw m3 and porsche 911 price! heck, for just 15000 more the GT-R is waiting for you!

besides, just wait until the warranty expires and that overpriced vw begins to fall apart. there's major $$$$$$$$ right there.

and i have to say i never liked the tt styling. too girly, too vw new beetle.

I test drove the TT-S (just for fun) when testing cars which ended in the purchase of the z. Sorry to say but the tt-s was a better car than the z, quality, interior design and finish, ride quality, it was simply superior... I also quite like the look of the tt... but yeah far far too expensive.

However, more to the point, I can't imagine the TTRS being worse than the z. the price difference is certainly not justified though.

Nice...

The Z is a great car, but there are always "better" car out there.

And no, the TTRS is not a piece of junk.

The Z in general is the "best" considering the $ you are paying for the performace and quality.

I don't have any issues with the TT, other than I think the Z is a way better deal for the money.

+1 :iagree:

Well it looks like they picked the 370 as the winner....even though it was slower.

What happens to the TT near the end? Did something break at 7:42? LOL

I owned a new TT and it is a space frame car that is way above the 370Z!! I love my Z but the way the TT handled and the interior quality blew away the Z. I just didn't want to pay for the TT anymore so that's where the Z shines!! Bang for the buck!
The Electro mechanical steering, Haldex Quattro, Magnetic Ride suspension, Adaptive bi-xenons, weight distibution, looks, fit and finish were on par with the R8! The car needed more hp and cost to high! But there are reasons for that!
I miss her, don't miss the cost or the lack of mods stateside!

The video showed the difference in the 0 60 time between the two and also remember that other countries pay more for the cars than we do in the states, just check one of the other threads here that state the diff in prices for the Z between the US and like the Phillipines, so the TT RS if it were to come to the US would be a good bit less than the current price over seas. A GTS in the Phillipines would be 100K US dollars plus. The TTS is about 45K and is in the same performance range as the Z, 0 60 in 4.9 secs.

If I could I would have both cars as they really are two different cars IMO.

They only got a 5.9s 0-60 in the Z?? :shakes head:

Hi Guys, this is my first post and I haven't introduced myself (sorry), but just to tell you that in France, the number of 370Z Nissan has sold in 2009 is... 200 !!!
And you are lucky guys because the price is around 44000 € (58000 $) there. But it's not the worst price in Europe: in Portugal the 370Z is around 70000€ !!!! (98000 $), no no it's not a joke.

Enjoy it, it's really an amazing car (and we don't have Yellow, it's a special edition 50000€ ...)

This was from a guy in France, man they really pay for thier cars. They must have a seriously high income everage there or something.

import tax. they can double or triple a car's price in some countries.

I aint movin to them places.

i double checked the video. you're right, they do show numbers. however, they tt rs got 0-60 in 4.5 sec. that's only one or two tenths faster than the z. for a car that's lighter, has awd, more power, more torque, that's not a lot at all. i know they got 5.9 sec for the z, but that has to be the worst 0-60 run ever in a z on the dry. either they didn't launch properly, or didn't get good traction. under ideal traction, many magazines were able to get around 4.7 or 4.8 out of the z.

the laptimes weren't too different. the tt rs was faster by 0.6 sec (98.9 vs 99.5 s), which isn't that much especially considering the traction and driveability advantage of the awd system.

the price difference between other countries you mentioned and the US (not that i care about the US since i'm not american) is due to import tax. the 56000 euros price is in europe. i don't think european countries put import tax on their own products. that price would put the tt rs straight into m3 or 911 territory

The TT RS costs 44k Euro in Germany so that about $62K here but I also see that their TT is $5k more there than it is here, so if the TT RS does come to the US it might be only $58K, not bad.

On another note I see that they have a R8 Spyder convert and it looks sharp as hell.

http://www.audi.co.uk/new-cars/r8/r8-spyder.html

actually thats 44000 british pounds. still that would make it 74000 dollars here. that's essentially cayman s price.

r8 spyder i think is new for 2010

Yeah I saw that. They seem slightly biased toward the TT (big surprise) but even they admit the Z is waaay more care for the monies.

Something I think few could disagree with: the Z is a way nicer exterior styling. I have to admit the TT interior looks significantly better, but what good is that when you're driving a sooped-up iBug?

On a lighter note, I love hearing "synchro-rev" in other languages. UND DRIVEN! :eekdance:

usually german car testing is metric so


it was 0-62mph (100kmph) so thats more like 5.7 0-60... still seemed off

Surprised a German car tester,says the Japanese car wins,usually Germans will says other car around the world is not as good as theirs..

Was that brake fade on the TTRS they were showing at 7:50?

The Audi with quattro will routinely have better launches and 0-60 times. Our Z requires a skilled driver to pull off 0-60 in 4.7s every time.

Puerto Rico: Base model starts at $50,000. Killer prices in some countries, huh?! On the TT vs. Z discussion: My main concern is reliability; just check out both their records with CR magazine. Zs are "Much Better Than Average". I'll let you do your homework on the TT! Cheers!

I agree. The Z's exterior styling is FAR superior. However the TT-RS does take it in the exterior. The TT-RS is suppose to be a Cayman S fighter. That said, the Z's comparision to it and the fact that the numbers the review turned up were not much faster than the US Z's is very encouraging and should be classified as a win for the Z.

That said, the TT-RS is hot! And I love that it is a MT!

I don't know how the newest generation of TTs are but my dads older model is incredibly uncomfortable. I can't find a seat setting that is in anyway ergonomic and I'm 5'10" and 175 lbs.

Base for which car?

I would buy this Audi in a heartbeat. I love the new styling - fit and finish is right there with porsche and bmw. However, I feel it is a bit overpriced. I would consider it in the 40k to 50k range - the latter being fully loaded. On the bright side, we are over looking the turbo - a $500 chip and it will be pushing 400whp+ spanking us all.

There are just too many cars putting down 300whp+ in the 35k-45k range for me to justify this one. Even some luxury sport coupes in this range.

The 2nd generation had much more seat room, 6 feet tall 250 pound guys would fit in it. I had both generations of the TT, loved them and had no issues with them breaking down for the 8 1/2 yrs I had them. 6 yrs on gen 1 and 2 1/2 yrs in gen 2. I do like the 370Z exterior better but not the 350Z compared to the TT. But TT interior was nice and quiet.

Thats true, I got 50 hp and 80tq from the chip but I only had FWD and launching was hard to do to get the benifits from it, but once I was going it was nice till the small turbo runs out of gusto. The TTS is $45K and has a slightly bigger turbo, 0 60 in 4.9 secs, chip it exhaust 0 60 in 4.5.

Now a SC or turbo in the Z and look out, it will fly.

I have been able to get 0 60 in 5 secs so far using a Gtech.

Yea I'm still waiting to see a turbo kit or SC kit come to fruition, at least reasonably priced. That will make the 370z such a beast. Would like to run some!!

I've never had a problem running the stillen SC'd 350's at the track. :yawn: We all know the new VQ is a different animal though.

370Z, Zsteve. Between import taxes, transportation charges, etc., etc., etc., politicians a dealerships make a b-u-n-d-l-e, down here. Only comforting fact is seeing that they're even more expensive in other countries--even with Euros, which are supposed to be stonger than the dollar. I've had many Europeans tell me that, in spite of the Euro's higher value (say, over the dollar), life is so expensive there that we're better off in the U.S.

I dont know were you get that info but the base 370Z here (Puerto Rico)cost $36-38K. For $50K u get the Nismo edition, still more expensive that in the US but not as bad as u make it appear.

I think his local mayor is on the take.

Hockenheim Short, Germany (2604 m)

Audi TT-RS Coupe 1:15.0
Nissan 370Z 1:16.0
Audi TT-S Coupe 1:16.1
Hockenheim Short lap records - FastestLaps.com

In the RS price range: Exige S260, FTW. 0-60 in 4.0. *Much* cooler car.

IMHO, of course. I could care less about luxury and more about ability.

at least the z beat the lambo diablo. lol! seriously, there are some major inconsistencies in that list.

I know Mr. José Ordéix, V.P. and General Manager for Nissan at P.R. (Motorambar); I asked him about the 370's prices. What he told me is what I posted, amigo! I possess no ESP capabilities. BTW, the used 350 I bought ('04.5 Touring Coupe) cost $42, 975 its original owner, on November of 2003.