Bought New Z -undisclosed damage

mults · 02-07-2018, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tejas Z

Louisiana AG’s Office wasn’t of much help. Can file a complaint, but they don’t seem to be too concerned with investigating nor penalizing the dealer. Suggested I retain a lawyer and take them to court, or contact local law enforcement as they stated that this is the entity with the jurisdiction. I doubt local law enforcement is going to care or be of any help here. They are surely more focused on murders, tapes, violent crimes, etc than car fraud, which I get. Besides, the local podunk dealer probably gives to local police fundraisers or knows local officials and is “a pillar of the community”. I doubt an out of state individual from Texas (they don’t care for anyone from out of state) would get a fair shake, having lived in New Orleans for 2 years and seeing how some things work in LA. They will take care of their own.

I would contact a local TV station and see if their investigators would be willing to help...I wouldn't think the dealer would like all of the negative exposure.

Benibiker · 02-07-2018, 10:29 AM

So at this point are you fighting to undo the deal, have them fix it, or have them pay you to fix it? Don't forget why you bought the car, you wanted a beautiful brand new 370Z. No amount of fighting will get you that from this car at this point... well maybe after a long legal battle, they might offer you another brand new car with discounts or something or maybe not. Just undo it, walk away from it, post the dealer's name, and get a real brand new 370Z somewhere else. It's their loss not yours.

Chuck33079 · 02-07-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Benibiker

post the dealer's name,

This. Let people know which dealers to avoid.

eZg · 02-07-2018, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tejas Z

Louisiana AG’s Office wasn’t of much help. Can file a complaint, but they don’t seem to be too concerned with investigating nor penalizing the dealer. Suggested I retain a lawyer and take them to court, or contact local law enforcement as they stated that this is the entity with the jurisdiction. I doubt local law enforcement is going to care or be of any help here. They are surely more focused on murders, tapes, violent crimes, etc than car fraud, which I get. Besides, the local podunk dealer probably gives to local police fundraisers or knows local officials and is “a pillar of the community”. I doubt an out of state individual from Texas (they don’t care for anyone from out of state) would get a fair shake, having lived in New Orleans for 2 years and seeing how some things work in LA. They will take care of their own.

This is exactly what happened to me.....except in Mississippi.

Car sat in storage for two years awaiting court date. Dealer finally offered to settle the day before court. Judge kicked case out the next morning stating, "The car looked new to him." Deal was off. I was Fuc#$d.

Diff states have diff consumer protection laws. Who knew you should do a PPI on a "NEW" car??

eZg · 02-07-2018, 12:03 PM

In some states.....judges don't even have to have a degree.

Tejas Z · 02-07-2018, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Benibiker

So at this point are you fighting to undo the deal, have them fix it, or have them pay you to fix it? Don't forget why you bought the car, you wanted a beautiful brand new 370Z. No amount of fighting will get you that from this car at this point... well maybe after a long legal battle, they might offer you another brand new car with discounts or something or maybe not. Just undo it, walk away from it, post the dealer's name, and get a real brand new 370Z somewhere else. It's their loss not yours.

First choice (by far) would be to undo the deal. It’s apparent that won’t happen short of a judge ordering it based on the amount of arguing I’ve done getting me nowhere. They are arrogant enough to act like they’ve made a simple mistake, and I’m the jerk for pushing the issue. They are as crooked as they come.

Second, very distant choice, unloading it and taking compensation from the dealer to keep me whole. A friend at a Carmax-Type business just gave me a valuation of $25k with clean Carfax, $20k with “unclean” Carfax. It would take a $7k check from the dealer to stay whole taking sales tax into account. Ugly.

Tejas Z · 02-07-2018, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eZg

This is exactly what happened to me.....except in Mississippi.

Car sat in storage for two years awaiting court date. Dealer finally offered to settle the day before court. Judge kicked case out the next morning stating, "The car looked new to him." Deal was off. I was Fuc#$d.

Diff states have diff consumer protection laws. Who knew you should do a PPI on a "NEW" car??

Very sorry to hear that you had to manage through this as well! Definitely frustrating and has me seeing red every time I think about it.

jchammond · 02-07-2018, 07:58 PM

Sounds like you have them by the Nut-Sac,,,if it isn’t a big deal to them-it shouldn’t be a big deal to let you swap it for another New one of your choice-even if it’s at another dealer.

Tejas Z · 02-07-2018, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jchammond

Sounds like you have them by the Nut-Sac,,,if it isn’t a big deal to them-it shouldn’t be a big deal to let you swap it for another New one of your choice-even if it’s at another dealer.

Would be nice, as I know where another example of the exact same car I bought resides, but I don’t see the scumbag dealer working with me on it. Going to keep on them about a resolution, but am questioning how this will conclude. Have list of consumer protection lawyers in Lake Charles, so may start contacting them tomorrow to see who’s hungry. May be worth $200 for a demand letter stating that I’ve retained their services. I imagine most don’t take it even that far so perhaps it will be an attention getter.

Shultzie · 02-08-2018, 06:18 AM

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I went to FB and can't find your post to like. Can you provide a link? (Under edit......OH wait, I just found it. Duh.)

Kzonts · 02-08-2018, 11:58 AM

I found it too. I'm sure they will figure out a way to remove that.....

CRiZO · 02-08-2018, 12:40 PM

If you're going the legal route, you don't want to post anything publicly.

Tejas Z · 02-08-2018, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CRiZO

If you're going the legal route, you don't want to post anything publicly.

Even if what’s put in the public domain is 100% factual?

Shultzie · 02-09-2018, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tejas Z

Even if what’s put in the public domain is 100% factual?

Yeah, I don't know how this could hurt if you are telling the 100% truth.

Chuck33079 · 02-09-2018, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CRiZO

If you're going the legal route, you don't want to post anything publicly.

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Originally Posted by Tejas Z

Even if what’s put in the public domain is 100% factual?

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Originally Posted by Shultzie

Yeah, I don't know how this could hurt if you are telling the 100% truth.

As a general life rule, you should NEVER comment on ongoing legal matters. Either post everything up and let the internet eat them alive, or lawyer up and keep your mouth shut until the judge makes a ruling. It's one or the other. It's far too easy to get carried away online and torpedo your own case, or the defense may be more willing to settle with you if they still have the option of giving you a check and an NDA.

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Benibiker Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Honolulu Hawaii Posts: 235 Drives: Red 17 370Z Touring Rep Power: 16	So at this point are you fighting to undo the deal, have them fix it, or have them pay you to fix it? Don't forget why you bought the car, you wanted a beautiful brand new 370Z. No amount of fighting will get you that from this car at this point... well maybe after a long legal battle, they might offer you another brand new car with discounts or something or maybe not. Just undo it, walk away from it, post the dealer's name, and get a real brand new 370Z somewhere else. It's their loss not yours. DYNAZOR likes this. __________________ 2017 Pure Red 6MT 370Z Touring Last edited by Benibiker; 02-07-2018 at 10:31 AM.

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