370Z still considered a Japanese Muscle Car

danegrey · 12-12-2017, 04:05 PM

still made the list, just gave me a smile for the day

https://www.autobytel.com/car-buying...MwMDY4Njc2MwS2

enjoy

ayrton88 · 12-12-2017, 05:56 PM

Kind of an insult to all these cars if you ask me. I always considered a muscle car as extremely limited. Fast in a straight line and that's it. In fact, I would consider the muscle car the opposite of a sports car.

gsx95 · 12-12-2017, 06:26 PM

It seems like the definition of "muscle car" as used by the author of that article (and everyone else these days) is different from what it used to mean. Modern American muscle cars can handle really well now...in fact, they are some of the best handling "bang for the buck" vehicles around today. Only the older cars from the 60s and 70s handled poorly. So I'll take the compliment happily!

Zingston · 12-12-2017, 07:09 PM

"That's a cool amount of power for what is still a cool car"

Yeah baby, that's my Z!!!

yaoxiao4 · 12-12-2017, 08:13 PM

only true muscle car now days are challengers/chargers, big, heavy and great in a straight line

vtec to vvel · 12-12-2017, 10:37 PM

I don’t know if I would consider my Z a muscle car. I don’t even think they consider the GTR a muscle car, but rather a performance machine.

Shultzie · 12-13-2017, 07:07 AM

What's up with the four doors being included in this list?

I understand our Z's shouldn't be included in there either because I consider a 2 seater a sports car. Geez these young writers today.

2011 Nismo#91 · 12-13-2017, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shultzie

What's up with the four doors being included in this list?

I understand our Z's shouldn't be included in there either because I consider a 2 seater a sports car. Geez these young writers today.

Mustang, Camaro, and Corvette are the original American muscle cars.
Yeah that's just because there is only 2 other car's from Japan that meet the muscle car specs (RWD, 2Door, Front Engine, "cheap"). Unless you change what the definition of a muscle car the 370z will always be a Japanese muscle car.

ayrton88 · 12-13-2017, 10:52 AM

I don't know. When I hear the term muscle car I get visions of Vin Diesel yanking on a shifter....in a car that is probably an automatic. I consider the Z a sports car and that's it. Is a Ferrari an Italian muscle car?

Shultzie · 12-13-2017, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

Mustang, Camaro, and Corvette are the original American muscle cars.
Yeah that's just because there is only 2 other car's from Japan that meet the muscle car specs (RWD, 2Door, Front Engine, "cheap"). Unless you change what the definition of a muscle car the 370z will always be a Japanese muscle car.

I consider the Corvette a sports car. I feel you are right on the Mustang and Camaro, but shouldn't you include Nova's, Old Charger's, Challenger's,Chevelle's,Fairlane's,GTO's,Super Bee's, Road Runner's,etc. etc.
The list is quite long actually.

s2krazyyy · 12-14-2017, 03:05 AM

I feel like the Z has kind of a big burley rugged feel to it(at least for its size) and thats why it gets put in the category of "Japanese muscle car". It has some muscle car qualities while having the handling of a Japanese sports car.

Zoren 370 · 12-15-2017, 12:29 AM

Hmm..considering the average height of a Japanese is around 5'5"
Maybe I'll agree the 370 Z is good enough for a muscle car to a Japanese perspective. But not in any way the American muscle description.

Hell, They even call the GTR as Godzilla. A Japanese version of an American icon King Kong.

JARblue · 12-15-2017, 04:44 AM

I need some more muscle ... looks like I should get a Civic or a Maxima

alcheng · 12-15-2017, 05:33 PM

the title of the article is "Japanese Muscle Car", so it's about Japanese production cars, and the writer already explain how they define the difference between Japanese muscle cars and American muscle cars...

so why do you guys throw in all those opinions about American muscle cars??

but.... I am little

when seeing a Maxima is on the list.....

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-16-2017, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ayrton88

I don't know. When I hear the term muscle car I get visions of Vin Diesel yanking on a shifter....in a car that is probably an automatic. I consider the Z a sports car and that's it. Is a Ferrari an Italian muscle car?

The v12 versions are kinda sorta

12-12-2017, 04:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,190 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 649540	370Z still considered a Japanese Muscle Car still made the list, just gave me a smile for the day https://www.autobytel.com/car-buying...MwMDY4Njc2MwS2 enjoy __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

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ayrton88 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 397 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 14	Kind of an insult to all these cars if you ask me. I always considered a muscle car as extremely limited. Fast in a straight line and that's it. In fact, I would consider the muscle car the opposite of a sports car. UNKNOWN_370, DYNAZOR and terrapirata like this.

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gsx95 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: USA Posts: 69 Drives: 2017 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 8	It seems like the definition of "muscle car" as used by the author of that article (and everyone else these days) is different from what it used to mean. Modern American muscle cars can handle really well now...in fact, they are some of the best handling "bang for the buck" vehicles around today. Only the older cars from the 60s and 70s handled poorly. So I'll take the compliment happily! UNKNOWN_370 likes this.

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Zingston A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 4,028 Drives: like it's a rental. Rep Power: 2684370	"That's a cool amount of power for what is still a cool car" Yeah baby, that's my Z!!! ChopsZ likes this.

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yaoxiao4 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Bay Area Posts: 320 Drives: 13 370z Black M6 Rep Power: 8	only true muscle car now days are challengers/chargers, big, heavy and great in a straight line UNKNOWN_370 and DYNAZOR like this.

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vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: 813 Posts: 3,915 Drives: 13 Z Rep Power: 502909	I don’t know if I would consider my Z a muscle car. I don’t even think they consider the GTR a muscle car, but rather a performance machine. __________________ Don't like what I post? Too bad. I really don't give a sh!t

12-13-2017, 07:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
Shultzie Base Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: IN Posts: 44 Drives: 2015 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 8	What's up with the four doors being included in this list? I understand our Z's shouldn't be included in there either because I consider a 2 seater a sports car. Geez these young writers today.

12-13-2017, 10:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
ayrton88 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 397 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 14	I don't know. When I hear the term muscle car I get visions of Vin Diesel yanking on a shifter....in a car that is probably an automatic. I consider the Z a sports car and that's it. Is a Ferrari an Italian muscle car?

12-14-2017, 03:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
s2krazyyy Base Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: California Posts: 162 Drives: 2010 40th 370z Rep Power: 45	I feel like the Z has kind of a big burley rugged feel to it(at least for its size) and thats why it gets put in the category of "Japanese muscle car". It has some muscle car qualities while having the handling of a Japanese sports car.

12-15-2017, 12:29 AM	#12 (permalink)
Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913653	Hmm..considering the average height of a Japanese is around 5'5" Maybe I'll agree the 370 Z is good enough for a muscle car to a Japanese perspective. But not in any way the American muscle description. Hell, They even call the GTR as Godzilla. A Japanese version of an American icon King Kong. Last edited by Zoren 370; 12-15-2017 at 12:32 AM.

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	I need some more muscle ... looks like I should get a Civic or a Maxima alcheng, Zoren 370 and Jayhovah like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

12-15-2017, 05:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,894 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418353	the title of the article is "Japanese Muscle Car", so it's about Japanese production cars, and the writer already explain how they define the difference between Japanese muscle cars and American muscle cars... so why do you guys throw in all those opinions about American muscle cars?? but.... I am little when seeing a Maxima is on the list..... Last edited by alcheng; 12-15-2017 at 05:35 PM.

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