I run Michelin super sport tires, these are mid level race grade tires before going to compound that is so soft you get less then 2000 km to a set.

To put it in perspective, the tires I run are the same tires that Porsche puts on the GT4 race cars out of the box. They are very sticky :happydance:

I bought a '12 Nismo. As far as I'm concerned, buying anything less is selling yourself short. As a previous poster already said, the Nismo essentially has all the aftermarket goodies you'd want already equipped. It looks 10x better than the base and sport packages. Upgrade the stereo, put good rubber on it, and enjoy it. For someone like myself who likes to modify stuff, buying the Nismo saved me time and effort. I can just drive the car. Only my opinion, but if you like the looks and the mods, just spend the cash up front.

Thank you very much everyone!

I'll have to disagree* earnestly. The PSS are not even remotely the same as cup 2's or even extreme tires for that matter. They lack the tread block rigidity and overall sidewall support as tires of race compounds. They may be good, but they are not comparable to Cup 2's or something in the Extreme category such as the ZII's, BF rivals or RE71's.

They are not race grade tires. Extremes can handle more than 10k miles on and off the track certainly with a uprated sizes. I was able to get over 15k miles on my RS3's on my heavier G37 and over 20k miles on my Direzza ZIIs on my VW R32, and that was even on a undersized tire for the weight of the car and significant abuse on and off the track. Both of these tires can out handle PSS's as well as last just as long with better heat control.

I don't know what size tire you use, but i assure you they do not stack up to the latest offerings in the extreme class of tires. And yes, i have used the PSS on my car before. On the R32, and the ZII's and BF rivals out handled them immensely.

I don't know what it is your debating with me here lol?

I indicated in my post they are mid level race rated tires. Your comparing my tires to extreme track use tires. I completely agree with you that any track rated tire will our perform a PSS.

I never stated any wear that the PSS were hard core track ready tires, I compared them to being decent enough to be considered by Porsche as the tire they send there gt4 race spec cars off the lot on that can handle street and track use.

I think this is the confusion. The GT4 uses cup2 tires, atleast here where i live. If the GT4 where you live comes with PSS, then i feel sorry for whoever buys it there lol. So it sounded like you were saying the pss tires is as good as the cup2 tires. And the other part about them being "mid level" race grade tires, which they are not, for whatever that means. They are very good street tires.

My original point was about how the nismo suspension can handle tires with higher traction limits. Such as an extreme or competition tires.

my thought exactly....

I too have the same car as yours (6MT).

Had a 350z for 6 years up until this August which i heavily modified. Tried the 370z sport and Nismo and purchased the Nismo. If you want the best then go Nismo. I use it as a daily driver here in the UK and have done many 3/4 hour driving trips in it without any issues from the seats. In fact i have to say i can sit in them for hours and not feel uncomfortable or fatigued when stepping out. I am only 5ft 5 ins tall though.

Buy a used 1 year old nismo with less than 8k miles on it for $33,000 out the door.

Drops Mic!!

That's debatable. Other than opinion, I haven't seen much data that supports the Nismo as a better handler/posts better track times. They're about equal for the most part. Yes the Nismo is firmer sprung, but that doesn't equate to better handling. Suspension aside, the Nismo does have additional chassis bracing which will help the car feel more solid.

I'm not sure you read what i said correctly.

Ahhhhh dang-it!!!! Looks like I sold myself short! #%=@#!&$#!!!!!! :mad:

I did. Explain how "it handle tires with higher traction limits". What exactly is so different about the suspension that enables this?

And for what it's worth, there's actually an Edmunds comparison that's been around forever showing the '09 Nismo posting worse times than an '09 Sport. Nismo is wears larger, better tires stock and we all know the RE050 on the sports are terrible.

I already made my point on the first page, so i still don't think you understand what i said.

As for the comparison, nothing about the Nismo's tire package is better than the sport. They both use a 245 front, and this size actually suites the 9 inch wheel on the sport better, a 9.5 should have a 255 at minimum. The rear nismo is only a size bigger at 285 vs 275. Not a big difference at all. It's also proven the Bridgestone is better than the Yokahama, thus the reason almost every car company has ditched the advan for the Bridgestone Re050A or S001. The skidpad tests alone indicated the Yokahama's are nothing to brag about. The advan sport was replaced 3 times over since 2008. Where as the Re050A was only updated once. So for however terrible they are, the advan is worse, giving the Nismo very little performance advantage, if any. The current Nismo uses the S001, which is still categorically not the best in-class, but much improved compared to the old, worst in-class advan sport. For a standard summer tire setup, i'd agree the stock sport suspension will work the tires better. But the stiffer nismo suspension will yield a more stable balance with larger high grip tires.

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The body bracing allows it to endure more track time than the sport, it is more protected from body flex and has better Aero. It has 18HP to compensate for the 88lb deficit.

Other than a little bit of extra help in the endurance dept. And some dampers. They're the same car. They sell a nismo body brace kit for for the sport. I think it's $1,800. Don't quote me on price. I'm sure that'll make them equal.

The Z sport has big enough wheels for track duty, the nismo is a Lil extra for the cars size. PS4's are probably too much for the capability of either car. Those are designed for these 500+HP cars.

Jus sayin.