Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   Nissan 370Z General Discussions (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/)
-   -   throttle lift off lag (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/12284-throttle-lift-off-lag.html)

Pharmacist 12-14-2009 02:43 PM

throttle lift off lag
 
i've noticed in my car ever since i got it that when i lift off the throttle, there is about half a second lag time during which the engine maintains current rpm before dropping off to idle. doesn't matter if the car is in gear or neutral or if srm is on or off. what causes this? is it the electric throttle being slow to respond?

DIGItonium 12-14-2009 02:43 PM

Try turning off SRM to see if it makes a difference. SRM holds revs in between shifts to anticipate gear changes.

Pharmacist 12-14-2009 02:50 PM

like i said, i already tried that. its not srm. its not that the engine is held at a certain rpm, its more that there is around half a second lag time after i lift off the throttle before the engine revs down to idle.

AK370Z 12-14-2009 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 323365)
Try turning off SRM to see if it makes a difference. SRM holds revs in between shifts to anticipate gear changes.

:iagree:

Quote:

From Nissan 370Z Owners Manual

The SynchroRev™ Match Mode (S-MODE) automatically adjusts the engine speed by controlling the engine throttle. This helps provide accurate engine speed control that will help achieve smooth gear shifting and reduces shift shock on clutch engagement.

WHEN DOWNSHIFTING
-The engine speed is automatically increased to the target engine speed before the clutch is engaged.

WHEN UPSHIFTING
-The engine speed is automatically kept during and after the engine speed lowers to the target engine speed.
Here's a great video that explains the upshift

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27gW9ZS0rkI

BTW, this is NOT me :icon17: . Some kid on youtube.

EDIT: I guess we posted at the same time. That's weird. Hopefully someone with the same issue will chime in.

Daishi 12-14-2009 02:57 PM

lol neither of you 2 read what he said.. he already tried turning off SRM... mine doesnt have SRM and it does the same thing. Probably has to do partly with the extremely heavy stock flywheel

kenchan 12-14-2009 03:06 PM

or just a fuel map to burn off the last bit of fuel for emmissions control...

semtex 12-14-2009 03:10 PM

It's the heavy flywheel. More mass = more rotational inertia. That's why lightweight flywheels are a somewhat popular mod for Zs. The 350 was the same way. Nissan chose a heavy flywheel out of noise considerations.

rufio11 12-14-2009 03:21 PM

Does Nissan use a DBW or is it a Cable? DBW lag sucks ballz:shakes head:

DIGItonium 12-14-2009 03:35 PM

Interesting... I never really recalled the 350Z holding revs in between shifts. Revs dropping slow wouldn't surprise me, but there has been some discussion in regards to the 370Z holding revs while shifting. It took awhile for me to get used to this behavior.

vipor 12-14-2009 03:39 PM

sometimes, especially skipping a gear this leads to a "lurch"

Pharmacist 12-14-2009 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rufio11 (Post 323401)
Does Nissan use a DBW or is it a Cable? DBW lag sucks ballz:shakes head:

wire. i agree it could be dbw lag. also the part about buring off the remaining fuel does seem to make sense. i highly doubt the heavy flywheel is the cause. a heavy flywheel would mean a slow rev down. what i notice is more that the engine rpm stays put without slowing down at all for about half a second or so, before beginning to slow down. the lag also seems to be independent of rpm. it's about the same duration whether at high or low rpm. if it was the flywheel, there would be more lag at high rpm and less at low rpm.

for those who say srm, no, actually the car doesn't even have to be in gear or even moving for this to happen. just try this. leave the car in neutral. push the throttle and hold the engine at a constant rpm, doesn't matter high or low. keep your eye on the tachometer needle, and immediately lift off completely. you should notice a small delay between the moment the throttle pedal is lifted and the moment the needle begins to drop.

also can someone with the automatic also try it just to see if it is indeed the flywheel or the electric throttle

Pharmacist 12-14-2009 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 323428)
sometimes, especially skipping a gear this leads to a "lurch"

yeah, it's definitely noticeable if you upshift really quickly and immediately let out the clutch. the lag makes the engine maintain too many revs and can cause fast upshifts to be very harsh

semtex 12-14-2009 04:08 PM

Ooohhh....I think I misread your original post. You're not disengaging the clutch, are you? You're talking about a situation where you simply lift off the throttle but you're still in gear?

kdo2milger 12-14-2009 04:17 PM

circuitry lag

drive by wire

semtex 12-14-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 323516)
circuitry lag

drive by wire

:iagree:

That, and general lack of F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S-N-E-S-S. ;)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:57 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2