Nissan 370Z Forum  

Short Shifter?

Originally Posted by OhioYJ What does the shifter have to do with the clutch? I've also never really gotten the synchro argument either? Is the thought you'll be shifting so

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Like Tree25Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-01-2017, 01:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Cyber370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Montreal, QC Canada
Posts: 679
Drives: 2016 370Z Nismo 6MT
Rep Power: 19372
Cyber370 has a reputation beyond reputeCyber370 has a reputation beyond reputeCyber370 has a reputation beyond reputeCyber370 has a reputation beyond reputeCyber370 has a reputation beyond reputeCyber370 has a reputation beyond reputeCyber370 has a reputation beyond reputeCyber370 has a reputation beyond reputeCyber370 has a reputation beyond reputeCyber370 has a reputation beyond reputeCyber370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioYJ View Post
What does the shifter have to do with the clutch? I've also never really gotten the synchro argument either? Is the thought you'll be shifting so fast that you'll wear out the synchros quicker (you aren't speed shifting all the time)? Easy enough to throw the stock shifter back in if you started to have a problem. Either way both the clutch and synchros are most likely going to be consider a wear item right? Maybe I'll eat crow later on this one, but I've rebuilt a lot several manual transmission in my garage, if something happens, I'll most likely be the one fixing it anyways.
As far as Nissan is concerned, your shifter assembly is an integral part of your tranny. I guarantee you that if you show up to a dealer with tranny problems, your warranty will be voided if you have or have had an aftermarket shifter assembly on there.
You would be very surprised at how much the shifter assembly has to do with the transmission reliability. Believe me, I learnt this the hard way with past cars.
Hotrodz and SINISTER like this.
__________________
"That’s when you know you’ve found somebody special. When you can just shut the f*ck up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence.”-Mia (Pulp Fiction)
Cyber370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2017, 02:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
Track Member
 
SINISTER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Earth's Toilet: Houston
Posts: 552
Drives: 2013 370z NISMO
Rep Power: 2154
SINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyber370 View Post
As far as Nissan is concerned, your shifter assembly is an integral part of your tranny. I guarantee you that if you show up to a dealer with tranny problems, your warranty will be voided if you have or have had an aftermarket shifter assembly on there.
You would be very surprised at how much the shifter assembly has to do with the transmission reliability. Believe me, I learnt this the hard way with past cars.
Agreed 100%...OhioYJ sounds like he has never had a warranty discussion with a stealership before...
__________________
Not to be able to stop thinking is a dreadful affliction, but we don't realize this because almost everybody is suffering from it, so it is considered normal.
SINISTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2017, 02:12 PM   #18 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
OhioYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Ohio
Posts: 261
Drives: 2016 370Z
Rep Power: 953
OhioYJ has a reputation beyond reputeOhioYJ has a reputation beyond reputeOhioYJ has a reputation beyond reputeOhioYJ has a reputation beyond reputeOhioYJ has a reputation beyond reputeOhioYJ has a reputation beyond reputeOhioYJ has a reputation beyond reputeOhioYJ has a reputation beyond reputeOhioYJ has a reputation beyond reputeOhioYJ has a reputation beyond reputeOhioYJ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyber370 View Post
As far as Nissan is concerned, your shifter assembly is an integral part of your tranny. I guarantee you that if you show up to a dealer with tranny problems, your warranty will be voided if you have or have had an aftermarket shifter assembly on there.
You would be very surprised at how much the shifter assembly has to do with the transmission reliability. Believe me, I learnt this the hard way with past cars.
This warranty argument is silly, why would you take the car into the dealer for transmission problems with an aftermarket shifter on it still? It takes maybe an hour to out the stock shifter back in? Put the stock shifter back in drive the car to the dealer, no big deal.

This is like the collectors who don't want to take a toy out of the box because they might harm it or ruin the value. I'm going to play with my toy and enjoy it.

Short shifters, the new oil thread
JamesTheBrain likes this.
OhioYJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2017, 03:35 PM   #19 (permalink)
Track Member
 
SINISTER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Earth's Toilet: Houston
Posts: 552
Drives: 2013 370z NISMO
Rep Power: 2154
SINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond reputeSINISTER has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioYJ View Post
This warranty argument is silly, why would you take the car into the dealer for transmission problems with an aftermarket shifter on it still? It takes maybe an hour to out the stock shifter back in? Put the stock shifter back in drive the car to the dealer, no big deal.

This is like the collectors who don't want to take a toy out of the box because they might harm it or ruin the value. I'm going to play with my toy and enjoy it.

Short shifters, the new oil thread
How is it silly? Its a legitimate issue that someone may need to deal with if they put it on. Why not discuss the pros and cons of ownership and not just say its awesome because your defending your purchase...
__________________
Not to be able to stop thinking is a dreadful affliction, but we don't realize this because almost everybody is suffering from it, so it is considered normal.

Last edited by SINISTER; 07-01-2017 at 03:37 PM.
SINISTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2017, 04:26 PM   #20 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Magic Bus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Honolulu
Posts: 1,427
Drives: 17 6MT M2
Rep Power: 18754
Magic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioYJ View Post
I'd disagree, I'd say money well spent. Since day one, I've always never cared for the way the car shifted. The TWM shifted definitely helped this. I'd do it again. I think lot of people who make these claims have not tried one on the 370.
Can't argue with you here as I've never had this on my 370Z. However the quotes that SINISTER has posted from kenchan as well as Nick911sc are valid points, and should be considered before replacing the shifter.

While a little notchy, I think the Z's shifter is pretty darn good, as I also own a 17 BMW M2. Yes the one that all the car mags fawn over. And they're correct, it's an excellent car with a lot of things superior to the Z, but I'd take the Z's shifter over the M2's anytime.
SINISTER likes this.

Last edited by Magic Bus; 07-01-2017 at 04:27 PM. Reason: Repetitive word.
Magic Bus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2017, 04:27 PM   #21 (permalink)
HEK
Enthusiast Member
 
HEK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: WESTFIELD, MA
Age: 66
Posts: 491
Drives: '13 Z Tour Sports 6m
Rep Power: 660
HEK has a reputation beyond reputeHEK has a reputation beyond reputeHEK has a reputation beyond reputeHEK has a reputation beyond reputeHEK has a reputation beyond reputeHEK has a reputation beyond reputeHEK has a reputation beyond reputeHEK has a reputation beyond reputeHEK has a reputation beyond reputeHEK has a reputation beyond reputeHEK has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I like the distance between gears on the Z, I had a short shifter on my Acura TL but the distance OEM was really far in between gears. I'm not sure if I would want to miss shift with a short shifter and I image the difference doesn't warrant the amount of work it takes to do so, but I guess to each their own, personally I rest my elbow on the center compartment and am able to shift with the twist of the wrist, good luck OP.
HEK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2017, 04:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Magic Bus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Honolulu
Posts: 1,427
Drives: 17 6MT M2
Rep Power: 18754
Magic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond reputeMagic Bus has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioYJ View Post
This warranty argument is silly, why would you take the car into the dealer for transmission problems with an aftermarket shifter on it still? It takes maybe an hour to out the stock shifter back in? Put the stock shifter back in drive the car to the dealer, no big deal.

This is like the collectors who don't want to take a toy out of the box because they might harm it or ruin the value. I'm going to play with my toy and enjoy it.

Short shifters, the new oil thread
Okay, you just lost my support here. You're deliberately hiding something you did, and expecting someone else to pay for your actions. What makes this worse, is you think it's no big deal
SINISTER likes this.
Magic Bus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2017, 05:38 PM   #23 (permalink)
Track Member
 
ChopsZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Central Florida
Age: 49
Posts: 965
Drives: 2016 370Z GM 6MT
Rep Power: 2301
ChopsZ has a reputation beyond reputeChopsZ has a reputation beyond reputeChopsZ has a reputation beyond reputeChopsZ has a reputation beyond reputeChopsZ has a reputation beyond reputeChopsZ has a reputation beyond reputeChopsZ has a reputation beyond reputeChopsZ has a reputation beyond reputeChopsZ has a reputation beyond reputeChopsZ has a reputation beyond reputeChopsZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Honestly, I like the stock shifter in the Z just fine.

I've owned two very different Miata's over the years, 5 years each, a 2002 and a 1991. The shifters in those Miata's are excellent, everyone knows that too. Funny thing is, the one in the Z reminds me of that Miata shifter. It's not as short, and it's not as precise, but it's close.

I had a VooDoo knob on the 2002 and a JoyFast knob on the 1991. Just a simple flick of the wrist and you could run up and down the gears quickly and easily. The Z's shifter isn't too far off from those.

Maybe one day I'll get a shorter, weighted knob for the Z, but I can assure you one thing, it won't be a metal one again like those in the Miata's. Living down here in Florida, grabbing those knobs is the equivalent of putting your hand on a stove-top burner on high!

My only complaint with this car about smooth shifting is the darn clutch pedal. Even with the RJM pedal installed, I still don't have it dialed in right and still get jerky shifts through 1st to 3rd.
__________________
She's For Sale! PERFORMANCE: Aero Workz | Akebono | BC Racing | EcuTek | HKS | MaxBore | Motordyne | Nismo | RJM | SPL | StopTech | Z1
AUDIO: Arc Audio | Bazooka | Helix | Pioneer | Stereo Integrity
ChopsZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2017, 03:29 AM   #24 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: California
Posts: 162
Drives: 2010 40th 370z
Rep Power: 45
s2krazyyy has a reputation beyond reputes2krazyyy has a reputation beyond reputes2krazyyy has a reputation beyond reputes2krazyyy has a reputation beyond reputes2krazyyy has a reputation beyond reputes2krazyyy has a reputation beyond reputes2krazyyy has a reputation beyond reputes2krazyyy has a reputation beyond reputes2krazyyy has a reputation beyond reputes2krazyyy has a reputation beyond reputes2krazyyy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I come from an S2k which is arguably one of the best shifters I have ever felt. People who say the stock shifter on the 370z is good enough have not experienced a good one i gurantee that. I have the TWM SS with a weighted knob and it is one of my best mods. I feel like people who have synchro issues on this car skip shift. Oh an OP dont cheap out in this part and do yourself a favor and get TWM.
Lvcky69 likes this.
s2krazyyy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2017, 12:20 PM   #25 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Sway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: TX
Posts: 697
Drives: 2018 GTR
Rep Power: 37871
Sway has a reputation beyond reputeSway has a reputation beyond reputeSway has a reputation beyond reputeSway has a reputation beyond reputeSway has a reputation beyond reputeSway has a reputation beyond reputeSway has a reputation beyond reputeSway has a reputation beyond reputeSway has a reputation beyond reputeSway has a reputation beyond reputeSway has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I have twm and couldn't be happier. No issues after about 2 years
__________________
- White 2018 GTR FBO+E85 -
Check out my old build thread: Sway’s Journal-Hitomi
~Live and let live!~
Sway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2017, 06:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
redondoaveb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: So. Commiefornia
Posts: 6,361
Drives: 2014 Nismo Gunmetal
Rep Power: 2684374
redondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I just had my TWM short shifter installed and I love it. Yep, it's notchy but I love the notchy mechanical feel. It feels more like what a sports car should feel like (imo).
redondoaveb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2017, 09:38 PM   #27 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Morrison CO
Posts: 64
Drives: '16 Sport 6m
Rep Power: 12
flyfish is on a distinguished road
Default

I have the TWM short shifter as well as their Big Type R knob in graphite (matches interior perfectly btw), paired with a set of Z1 MTEC shifter springs. Short throws, crisper engagement and with the springs, a more mechanical feel. Darn close to Miata (14 year owner) like, but what is?
__________________
2016 Sport 6sp Deep Blue Pearl || AAM intake || FI TDX non-res CF + HF-Cats || TEIN MonoSport w/EFDC-II || Hotchkis sways || Z1 34 row oil + ps cooler + diff cover + oil pan spacer || TWM Short Shifter || SPL everything || MA-MS diff cooler || Stillen brake duct || ++

Last edited by flyfish; 07-11-2017 at 11:53 PM.
flyfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2017, 12:02 AM   #28 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: socal
Posts: 1,107
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 13435
nis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Yes.. the Z's shift action is fine, but it is not like the Miata.

With the proper transmission fluid, the Z can be quite smooth.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ChopsZ View Post
Honestly, I like the stock shifter in the Z just fine.

I've owned two very different Miata's over the years, 5 years each, a 2002 and a 1991. The shifters in those Miata's are excellent, everyone knows that too. Funny thing is, the one in the Z reminds me of that Miata shifter. It's not as short, and it's not as precise, but it's close.
nis350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DIY: TWM Short Shifter and Leather Shifter Boot GaleForce DIY Section (Do-It-Yourself) 84 04-11-2018 05:42 PM
What is the best short-throw shifter and shifter knob combo? ZInferno0248 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 79 03-06-2017 07:57 AM
[FOR SALE] nst short shifter nismo13807 Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 2 10-22-2014 10:34 PM
Twm short shifter dimitarm Nissan 370Z General Discussions 8 08-14-2013 04:18 PM
short shifter FuPaXxTyTy Engine & Drivetrain 1 03-10-2010 06:48 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2