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juan05 12-12-2009 06:22 PM

370z nismo crash
 
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make long story short my mom was driving my car she got cut off(really bad) popped the clutch like at 60 mph..lost control of the car hit the median... she is ok ( thank god) this happened october 25...i havent been on the forums for a while thats why i havent posted it.

ChrisSlicks 12-12-2009 06:25 PM

Sorry to hear that.

Did she turn VDC off as well? I would think that VDC should have prevented excess wheel spin and a slide.

Snakes709 12-12-2009 06:25 PM

glad she is ok, did the person stop that cut her off? Any pictures?

SophiaZ 12-12-2009 06:27 PM

Thats horrible! Sorry to hear..atleast your mom is ok

juan05 12-12-2009 06:28 PM

yea i have pics..no the person my mom told me was an old driver...yes vdc was off..because i had turned it off. then when i got back to the house she took the car to get food. and while she went to do that it happened...

KillerBee370 12-12-2009 06:29 PM

Terrible news. Did the person that did the cutting just keep driving?

blue660r01 12-12-2009 06:29 PM

thats my birthday but sucks to hear

juan05 12-12-2009 06:32 PM

yes kept driving. =/

ChrisSlicks 12-12-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 320114)
yea i have pics..no the person my mom told me was an old driver...yes vdc was off..because i had turned it off. then when i got back to the house she took the car to get food. and while she went to do that it happened...

So far all the major loss of control accidents have happened with VDC off, I keep it turned on for the highway at least because you never know what is going to happen. If I was letting someone else drive I would definitely make sure it was turned on (and I wouldn't show them how to turn it off, even though it's pretty obvious).

juan05 12-12-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 320147)
So far all the major loss of control accidents have happened with VDC off, I keep it turned on for the highway at least because you never know what is going to happen. If I was letting someone else drive I would definitely make sure it was turned on (and I wouldn't show them how to turn it off, even though it's pretty obvious).

yea sucks.. the car is still getting fixed now my dad is worried the car is to much for me...its just a big mess:shakes head:

blue660r01 12-12-2009 06:36 PM

How is the car too much when she didnt crash from power? It was from some dumbass cutting her off thats all. If you arent familiar with the car things like that are possible....

juan05 12-12-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 320159)
How is the car too much when she didnt crash from power? It was from some dumbass cutting her off thats all. If you arent familiar with the car things like that are possible....

yea i know. my dad just got really worried thats all. yea i agree person that cut her off was a dumbass..but im tryng to upload pics but they are to big in size like 5 megs each pic i have to reduce it.

CrownR426 12-12-2009 06:39 PM

Wait...
Wasn't the 370z your first manual car?
Something seems fishy boyy!

juan05 12-12-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 320168)
Wait...
Wasn't the 370z your first manual car?
Something seems fishy boyy!

yea it was. fishy?

StLRedrider 12-12-2009 06:53 PM

damn, sorry to see them pics. glad she's ok.

blue660r01 12-12-2009 06:55 PM

ouch @ the pics. I hate seeing that

PapoZalsa 12-12-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 320207)
ouch @ the pics. I hate seeing that

:iagree:

bucketman 12-12-2009 09:18 PM

Sorry to hear and see that. Glad your mom was okay. Cars can be replaced...

batman_4 12-12-2009 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 320114)
yea i have pics..no the person my mom told me was an old driver...yes vdc was off..because i had turned it off. then when i got back to the house she took the car to get food. and while she went to do that it happened...

so you left the car on..? vdc turns back on once the car is off and is re-started.

sorry to hear about crash

motoextreme 12-12-2009 11:01 PM

Important thing for your Pops to remember is you'll be safe in this car much like your mother ended up.

Did I read this is your first car? Wow....lucky lucky. My first car was a Maverick, one of the ugliest cars ever built and it was that cool rust color...wait a minute...It was just all RUST!

farmosh203 12-12-2009 11:02 PM

Could you explain what you mean by "popped the clutch"? Would like to know if it prevents me from getting in an accident. Thanks.

hazzazi 12-13-2009 12:10 AM

i wish i had never seen this... i'm sorry to hear, and glad everyone is okay!.. too bad the nismo got hurt ...

chuckd05 12-13-2009 12:46 AM

thats not getting totaled out is it ?

vipor 12-13-2009 02:43 AM

looks like a rear axle at most, maybe some suspension. some body of course and airbag work. doubt it's a total on a 40k car.

glad to hear your mom wasn't hurt of course.

Island_370 12-13-2009 07:05 AM

I am sad to see the car damamged, but your story doesn't seem to add up....

Lets see.....
You got home after driving with the VDC off.
You got of the car and left it running.
Your mom got into the car to go get food.
She got in an accident.


What has me confused....
The pass side air bags went off, but without someone in the pass seat aren't the pass air bags not active?? Who was in the seat?

You left the car running when you got home. So you knew she was going to go out to get food??


Seems like I am missing something.....or you are leaving something out. Come on....what's the whole story?

Island_370 12-13-2009 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 320104)
Sorry to hear that.

Did she turn VDC off as well? I would think that VDC should have prevented excess wheel spin and a slide.

Lets say everything he said was true and that VDC was on......
If you are going 60 MPH on a curve on wet roads and you are coasting with the clutch in. If you drop the clutch in 2nd, the mechanical drag of the motor may cause the wheels to spin and rear to step out. The wheels will actually spin slower, so it will be like stabbing the brakes. The VDC cannot disengage the clutch. I do not know if VDC will add throttle to reduce engine braking....I would doubt it.

So it could happen. More severe in a non-SRM car---or if SRM is off.

GingaBreadMan 12-13-2009 08:17 AM

If this is true, I'm sorry to hear it and I'm glad everyone is ok. Once you restart the car vdc comes on automatically, and I wouldn't ever let my mother drive my Z. That's like asking to sleep with my wife, if I had one.

juan05 12-13-2009 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by batman_4 (Post 320783)
so you left the car on..? vdc turns back on once the car is off and is re-started.

sorry to hear about crash

yea is like i get home mom and dad outside hey i wana get food sure.. i dint see the need to trun the car off..and i completly forgot the vdc was off.

juan05 12-13-2009 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by motoextreme (Post 320867)
Important thing for your Pops to remember is you'll be safe in this car much like your mother ended up.

Did I read this is your first car? Wow....lucky lucky. My first car was a Maverick, one of the ugliest cars ever built and it was that cool rust color...wait a minute...It was just all RUST!

lol yea its my first car i should be done getting fixed in a week:tup:

juan05 12-13-2009 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Island_370 (Post 321042)
I am sad to see the car damamged, but your story doesn't seem to add up....

Lets see.....
You got home after driving with the VDC off.
You got of the car and left it running.
Your mom got into the car to go get food.
She got in an accident.


What has me confused....
The pass side air bags went off, but without someone in the pass seat aren't the pass air bags not active?? Who was in the seat?

You left the car running when you got home. So you knew she was going to go out to get food??


Seems like I am missing something.....or you are leaving something out. Come on....what's the whole story?

the reason i had it off is because before i went home my friend wanted to see i burnout so i turned it off. and i usually turn it back on. but i forgot to.thats what had me confused too nobody was in the passanger seat..i guess is because when the car hit the median it was the back passagner side...so it made the airbags go off.(but the airbags did not go off at the driver seat) i dint know she was going to get food. they where just outside the house talking in a bench happy that the saints beat the dolhpins =D (sorry im a big saints fan)

juan05 12-13-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by vipor (Post 321004)
looks like a rear axle at most, maybe some suspension. some body of course and airbag work. doubt it's a total on a 40k car.

glad to hear your mom wasn't hurt of course.

yea i talked to nissan and suspension was damaged..total cost to get it fixed was i think 16 or 17 k..but insurance paid for all the damage.

bloodo 12-13-2009 11:00 AM

Glad your mom is alright. And wow, your mom could drive a manual.

What gear was she in when she popped the clutch. I assume she would be at least in 5th gear going 60mph.

NYBladeZ 12-13-2009 11:15 AM

I suggest after it's repaired that you don't drive to enthusiastically, that rear suspension is never going to be the same. The term "good as new" doesn't apply when the damange is that extensive. Kind of sucks since it's brand new and the nismos are meant for the track.

KillerBee370 12-13-2009 01:22 PM

Jeeesuz... the armchair detectives sure come out of the woodwork on these types of threads. Regardless of what happened or how it happend, it happened and we have a fellow Z brother sharing the story here. I don't see how "lying" about it serves any purpose to the OP as I doubt any one of us will be called to make any statements to the insurance company handling the accident any time soon. Save your unwarranted judgements.

Also, this talk of not driving your car "enthusiastically" because it's been involved in an accident is crap. It's a Z and not just any Z but a Nismo. There's a reason he chose this car over a Prius. He probably wants to take part in a spirited drive from time to time or even track the car at some point. I have seen plenty of "salvage title" cars running at the track much less normal daily driving and doing quite well. And I'm not talking cars with extensive aftermarket suspension work done. In fact there was a salvage titled Evo IX that was running much better times than I was just on my last track day out. And he was pretty much stock.

The OP's point in sharing this with fellow enthusiasts is not to open himself up to riducule and judgement but to find encouragement with like minded people. Think about how you would feel if this was your Z. With the amount of OCD floating around this place, I'm sure you would feel real discouraged. Now if he was street racing or driving in a manner that exposed an uneccissary risk and had the lack of brain power to actually post something like that up, then go ahead and tear him apart. That's not the case here. Accidents happen.

We come from all walks of life but we share one thing in common. Let's act like it. :shakes head:

NYBladeZ 12-13-2009 01:46 PM

I understand your point Killa, and to be honest playing detective is useless since the incident has already occured however I disagree with the fact that the car will feel the same. I'm not talking out of my *** I've had multiple cars repaired after accidents some of them my fault, hell many of us here probably went through our dumb renegade immature years. With that said I can tell you as a fact that driving those cars at high speeds afterwards did not feel well. In one case I was rear ended in a 2004 mustang GT, most of the damage was superficial with slight frame damage. It was nowhere near as bad as the OP's case, and I can tell you that you definitely feel the difference. Furthermore the Z's chassis is aluminum so bends and twists are likely to occur and may go overlook. End game here...drive carefully but be realisitic, it won't feel the same.

hazzazi 12-13-2009 01:49 PM

:iagree:

azn1515 12-13-2009 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 321396)
Jeeesuz... the armchair detectives sure come out of the woodwork on these types of threads. Regardless of what happened or how it happend, it happened and we have a fellow Z brother sharing the story here. I don't see how "lying" about it serves any purpose to the OP as I doubt any one of us will be called to make any statements to the insurance company handling the accident any time soon. Save your unwarranted judgements.

Also, this talk of not driving your car "enthusiastically" because it's been involved in an accident is crap. It's a Z and not just any Z but a Nismo. There's a reason he chose this car over a Prius. He probably wants to take part in a spirited drive from time to time or even track the car at some point. I have seen plenty of "salvage title" cars running at the track much less normal daily driving and doing quite well. And I'm not talking cars with extensive aftermarket suspension work done. In fact there was a salvage titled Evo IX that was running much better times than I was just on my last track day out. And he was pretty much stock.

The OP's point in sharing this with fellow enthusiasts is not to open himself up to riducule and judgement but to find encouragement with like minded people. Think about how you would feel if this was your Z. With the amount of OCD floating around this place, I'm sure you would feel real discouraged. Now if he was street racing or driving in a manner that exposed an uneccissary risk and had the lack of brain power to actually post something like that up, then go ahead and tear him apart. That's not the case here. Accidents happen.

We come from all walks of life but we share one thing in common. Let's act like it. :shakes head:

I second this!! Stop being critical and judgmental..

motoextreme 12-13-2009 02:09 PM

Buddy borrowed an S2000 from me a few years back, slid off the on ramp and did a measly 3K in damage. Got the car back, pulled to the left. Took it to the shop and they sorted it out but the front end was NEVER the same and that's after 2 bodyshops and 3 dealers tried to fix. Front end had sooo much play that it was no longer fun.

Ended up selling it cheap but I agree that cars rarely recover. Either way, best of luck with the repair and best of luck with your Pops. I'm sure you can get him to reconsider, I know I would for my son.

dad 12-13-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 320167)
yea i know. my dad just got really worried thats all. yea i agree person that cut her off was a dumbass..but im tryng to upload pics but they are to big in size like 5 megs each pic i have to reduce it.

Reduce them, and post them.

KillerBee370 12-13-2009 02:23 PM

I'm not saying that the car will be as it was prior to the accident and it might not feel the same. What I am saying is that, it won't neccissarily be a rolling bomb waiting to self destruct at any time. I also agree that frame damage can go overlooked by a body shop. I'm just saying that even though it may feel different and not drive exactaly the same (which may not be the case), the sky isn't falling just because she got glued back together.

Would I personally take a salvaged car onto a track and run at speeds that I run my Z? No. But that's just me.


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