Word of Caution

kannibul · 12-12-2009, 02:36 PM

Yeah, I encourage all of us to hit an empty, clean parking lot with the temps under 40F, turn VDC off, and just gas it for one second going straight, then do the same thing with the steering wheel set slightly off center. It's shocking how fast this car can whip around.

There's many a reason they put VDC in the Z, and that's one of them.

Island_370 · 12-12-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

You're right... I have less than 7k miles with my tires. They're good tires compared to the RE040 with the 350Z, but it definitely hates cold weather. It is definitely easy to spin the tires with VDC going crazy.

Hope you get another one :-)

Life is the hardest teacher you will ever have, for Life almost always gives the lesson AFTER it gives the test.

For the record.....Approximately 85% of drivers in the US think they are above average drivers. The first mod for any performance car should be a HPDE. Even if you have done them in the past, it is the safest place to learn the limits of the car. Once you know the limits, you can safely stay within them. When you get your car back, sign up for one. They are very fun and very educational.

CBRich · 12-12-2009, 03:55 PM

Sucks to see that. Glad to hear it was safe for all the occupants though.

If totaled I call the brakes.

spearfish25 · 12-12-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

that's why god created something called WINTER tires

Having now used my Blizzaks in the first snowfall, they're the best investment I made in the past year.

Island_370 · 12-12-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman

So many accidents with these cars. Why? I'm sorry about what happened. Here's to watching my insurance rates go up, and up, and up.

You bought a car cheap enough to be had by high school kids and people with less than 5 years driving experience. Add RWD and +300hp equals many of these will be bent. You seriously thought that rates were going to be low? Evos and STIs are in the same boat. If the boy racer wants it, it will be expensive to insure.

StLRedrider · 12-12-2009, 06:52 PM

ouch, sorry to see that!

PapoZalsa · 12-12-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

that's why god created something called WINTER tires

And Nissan the VDC!

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Originally Posted by Island_370

You bought a car cheap enough to be had by high school kids and people with less than 5 years driving experience. Add RWD and +300hp equals many of these will be bent. You seriously thought that rates were going to be low? Evos and STIs are in the same boat. If the boy racer wants it, it will be expensive to insure.

No sh*t, my insurance when up with the 370Z, this is like the 3rd recked 370 I see here in the past day.

batman_4 · 12-12-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

sorry for your accident.

but if you're not a novice driver you'd probably know summer tires dont grip well under 40F...

+1

farmosh203 · 12-12-2009, 11:58 PM

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You bought a car cheap enough to be had by high school kids and people with less than 5 years driving experience. Add RWD and +300hp equals many of these will be bent. You seriously thought that rates were going to be low? Evos and STIs are in the same boat. If the boy racer wants it, it will be expensive to insure.

*Is guilty of only having 5 years driving experience and owning a 370Z... hides*

Island_370 · 12-13-2009, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by farmosh203

*Is guilty of only having 5 years driving experience and owning a 370Z... hides*

Just referring to the stats that drive insurance rates. If you don't bend it, no need to hide. BREAK the odds. (and make up for me....when I was that young, I fit right into the statistical prediction. )

G37Sam · 12-13-2009, 08:23 AM

Glad you made it out of there safely.

I find it hard to believe you weren't "pushing the car".. why was your VDC off anyways? Let's hope your insurance company doesn't find out somehow lol (I'd take this thread down

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Duncanz · 12-13-2009, 11:09 AM

Thanks for everyone's insight and comments. I posted my experience in an effort to give a real life result of the poor choices and lack of knowledge on my part. I take full responsibility for the actions that resulted in this wreck. I have obviously contemplated all the things that I did wrong and have not attempted to blame the car the car manufacturer or the conditions. I do believe that many of you/us consider turning the VDC off to see how the car reacts and so please use this post as the intended word of caution.

If there is any interest I will post the repair process and cost. Or feel free to pm me for any details.

In closing: I have road raced motorcycles since 1994, I have auto crossed, I have attended HPDE in the dry and in the wet. None of which prevented me from making this mistake.

j.arnaldo · 12-13-2009, 11:40 AM

Slowing down a bit wouldn't hurt, either.

NYBladeZ · 12-13-2009, 12:21 PM

sorry man, happy you walked away ok and you have a real grown up attitude towards the incident. I agree with some of you here, looks like Z's all over the place are losing control. Here's to leaving it in the garage and driving the Camry when it's shitty out.

djsizzy · 12-13-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

sorry man, happy you walked away ok and you have a real grown up attitude towards the incident. I agree with some of you here, looks like Z's all over the place are losing control. Here's to leaving it in the garage and driving the Camry when it's shitty out.

uh oh...just sold the civic and now this is my DD. Guess ill just have to be extra careful.

12-12-2009, 06:52 PM	#21 (permalink)
StLRedrider A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St.louis,Mo Posts: 17,755 Drives: O9Sprt/Touring,p-51 Rep Power: 60	ouch, sorry to see that! __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today J.Dean

12-13-2009, 08:23 AM	#26 (permalink)
G37Sam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 1,507 Drives: RB'd G37 Rep Power: 20	Glad you made it out of there safely. I find it hard to believe you weren't "pushing the car".. why was your VDC off anyways? Let's hope your insurance company doesn't find out somehow lol (I'd take this thread down ) __________________ '14 Viper GTS '08 RB'd G37S - Sold

12-13-2009, 11:09 AM	#27 (permalink)
Duncanz Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 39 Drives: 2015 370z Nismo Tech Rep Power: 15	Wrapping up Thanks for everyone's insight and comments. I posted my experience in an effort to give a real life result of the poor choices and lack of knowledge on my part. I take full responsibility for the actions that resulted in this wreck. I have obviously contemplated all the things that I did wrong and have not attempted to blame the car the car manufacturer or the conditions. I do believe that many of you/us consider turning the VDC off to see how the car reacts and so please use this post as the intended word of caution. If there is any interest I will post the repair process and cost. Or feel free to pm me for any details. In closing: I have road raced motorcycles since 1994, I have auto crossed, I have attended HPDE in the dry and in the wet. None of which prevented me from making this mistake.

12-13-2009, 12:21 PM	#29 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	sorry man, happy you walked away ok and you have a real grown up attitude towards the incident. I agree with some of you here, looks like Z's all over the place are losing control. Here's to leaving it in the garage and driving the Camry when it's shitty out. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

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12-12-2009, 02:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
kannibul A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jenks, OK Posts: 2,281 Drives: 370z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 267	Yeah, I encourage all of us to hit an empty, clean parking lot with the temps under 40F, turn VDC off, and just gas it for one second going straight, then do the same thing with the steering wheel set slightly off center. It's shocking how fast this car can whip around. There's many a reason they put VDC in the Z, and that's one of them.

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CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	Sucks to see that. Glad to hear it was safe for all the occupants though. If totaled I call the brakes.

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