370 debate on Camaro board

tvfreakazoid · 01-15-2009, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Crash

Not worth my time. I used to own an F-body and I hung out with LOTS of people that owned them. I admit, I was the same way, but these guys are fanboys. They don't want to listen to numbers or reason. If the Z put down the EXACT same power, they'd still argue that the Camaro would win. It's really no use dealing with them. They're pretty hard headed. I'm in Socal Muscle Club and they're all somewhat pissed at me that I'm going with another Z. LOL

Needless to say, I'm not going to waste my time yelling at a wall.

LOL. Yea your right when it comes to fanboys those type of people are not very open minded when it comes to certain things. That's why i don't like fan boys all that much.
I guess we will have to wait and see when the camaro SS comes rolling out and all the car mags starts testing the camaroo!
It would of been nice added touch to have the TQ more closer to the HP right from the factory though.
By the way do you have the new 370Z?
What do you think about the new Stangs?

CrownR426 · 01-15-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

LOL. Yea your right when it comes to fanboys those type of people are not very open minded when it comes to certain things. That's why i don't like fan boys all that much.
I guess we will have to wait and see when the camaro SS comes rolling out and all the car mags starts testing the camaroo!
It would of been nice added touch to have the TQ more closer to the HP right from the factory though.
By the way do you have the new 370Z?
What do you think about the new Stangs?

Lol @ the new stangs...

frost · 01-15-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426

Lol @ the new stangs...

I've been lurking on some mustang forums as we all waited to hear about the 2010 model, and they are all pretty pissed about it. Rustang fanboys are the most die hard people I know, so for them to start talking s- about the stang is a big deal.

tvfreakazoid · 01-16-2009, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by frost

I've been lurking on some mustang forums as we all waited to hear about the 2010 model, and they are all pretty pissed about it. Rustang fanboys are the most die hard people I know, so for them to start talking s- about the stang is a big deal.

Why are they all pissy about their poopnies? I think it's the best looking one compared to the previous gens.

I also was shocked to find out that the stinkies were only 5 speed. I always that the cars were 6sp.

Crash · 01-16-2009, 06:17 AM

Nope... Only 2 years of the SVTs (03 and 04) were made 6 speeds, not by choice, but by necessity. The 03-04 SVTs were built 4.6 liters with 390HP. The 5-speeds that were in the GTs would have exploded under that much power. So the "Special Vehicle's Team" had to put in T56 transmissions to handle the power. The same transmission that was already in all the 93+ Trans Ams and Camaros. LOL! However, the 03-04 SVTs are VERY respectable cars. As much as I'm not a fan of Mustang, those Cobra's are not to be messed with stock for stock. $500 of mods to those cars and they put down 480+RWHP!

It's true, Mustang owners are goo-goo over their ponies. I've talked to a few in our club and I think only one actually liked the new design of the 2010 stang. (Mostly because they don't like the back end.)

No, I haven't bought my 370 yet. I'll likely purchase it either next month or in March. I can't purchase it right this second. I don't even have time to get my current Z smogged and I haven't been able to get to the DMV to renew my License!

I figure I'll probably keep the 300z now as my beater and buy the 370z as my daily. Not sure. I don't drive that much at all since I work primarily from home. I'd LOVE to turn the 300z into an electric car.

Endgame · 01-16-2009, 07:40 AM

I have always thought that for the price, those 03-04 SVT Cobras would eat a new Camaro alive. Very close to the sam HP and torque, but about 300 pounds less weight; and it has an IRS! The Terminator!! I think that is how they referred to that Cobra.....

frost · 01-16-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

Why are they all pissy about their poopnies? I think it's the best looking one compared to the previous gens.

I also was shocked to find out that the stinkies were only 5 speed. I always that the cars were 6sp.

They are mad because their 8 cyl, the GT makes barely more HP than the 6 cyl camaro and less hp than the 6cyl Z. Now, that would be fine if the rustang were a much better deal money-wise, but it's only 2K cheaper than the Z and is actually like, 5K more than the base camaro. I will also go out on a limb and say the stang will be lower quality than either. I'd say, that's a sucker's car.

The Geek · 01-16-2009, 05:01 PM

What Ford needs to do is put some wider rubber on the back of their anything highter then a base GT...I think I read somewhere that the GT500 KR was really hurt, acceleration-wise, because it couldn't hook up with such narrow tires in the rear...

CrownR426 · 01-16-2009, 05:31 PM

Overall, ford, gm, chev have got to step up to the game...
It's about time to think about the buyers wallets not just theirs.
And invest in some decent engineers PLEASE!

Crash · 01-16-2009, 10:19 PM

The suspension on the 05+ GTs were modeled after the 93+ F-bodies. That being said, I was a bit disappointed to see them put 235's on the Mustang GT. Then even more disappointed to find out that you had to buy 15K more worth of Ford Power Failure to get wider tires.

I don't mean to bring it down to this (especially since I REALLY disagree with what I'm about to say) but Ford pushes Mustangs below the "premium" trims (like cobra) to girls because they think that girls won't care. Ford's thinking is that girls will think the Mustang is "cute" so they'll buy it.

I fortunately know lots of girls that are GREAT drivers and know better than to buy a Mustang. But not everyone grows up with a car-obsessed family.

BMW Killa · 01-16-2009, 10:22 PM

Whatever their marketing strategy is, it seems to be working for them. By not catering to the fanboys, they are laughing all the way to the bank

Crash · 01-16-2009, 10:24 PM

^^^ Cheers!

frost · 01-16-2009, 10:59 PM

Yeah, I dont see a lot of women driving camaros, but damn do they love that mustang.

LiquidZ · 01-16-2009, 11:27 PM

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01-16-2009, 06:17 AM	#80 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	Nope... Only 2 years of the SVTs (03 and 04) were made 6 speeds, not by choice, but by necessity. The 03-04 SVTs were built 4.6 liters with 390HP. The 5-speeds that were in the GTs would have exploded under that much power. So the "Special Vehicle's Team" had to put in T56 transmissions to handle the power. The same transmission that was already in all the 93+ Trans Ams and Camaros. LOL! However, the 03-04 SVTs are VERY respectable cars. As much as I'm not a fan of Mustang, those Cobra's are not to be messed with stock for stock. $500 of mods to those cars and they put down 480+RWHP! It's true, Mustang owners are goo-goo over their ponies. I've talked to a few in our club and I think only one actually liked the new design of the 2010 stang. (Mostly because they don't like the back end.) No, I haven't bought my 370 yet. I'll likely purchase it either next month or in March. I can't purchase it right this second. I don't even have time to get my current Z smogged and I haven't been able to get to the DMV to renew my License! I figure I'll probably keep the 300z now as my beater and buy the 370z as my daily. Not sure. I don't drive that much at all since I work primarily from home. I'd LOVE to turn the 300z into an electric car. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-16-2009, 05:31 PM	#84 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 847	Overall, ford, gm, chev have got to step up to the game... It's about time to think about the buyers wallets not just theirs. And invest in some decent engineers PLEASE! __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

01-16-2009, 10:19 PM	#85 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	The suspension on the 05+ GTs were modeled after the 93+ F-bodies. That being said, I was a bit disappointed to see them put 235's on the Mustang GT. Then even more disappointed to find out that you had to buy 15K more worth of Ford Power Failure to get wider tires. I don't mean to bring it down to this (especially since I REALLY disagree with what I'm about to say) but Ford pushes Mustangs below the "premium" trims (like cobra) to girls because they think that girls won't care. Ford's thinking is that girls will think the Mustang is "cute" so they'll buy it. I fortunately know lots of girls that are GREAT drivers and know better than to buy a Mustang. But not everyone grows up with a car-obsessed family. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-16-2009, 10:24 PM	#87 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	^^^ Cheers! __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

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