I suspect they will offer an infinite variety of stripe options, a la Camaro...
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04-18-2017, 01:04 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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Yah I pretty much agree. When a car company puts CVT trannys in a big part of their lineup (even the previously sporty Maxima and Altima), they're becoming yawn-worthy.
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04-18-2017, 02:56 PM | #21 (permalink) | |
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04-18-2017, 06:24 PM | #22 (permalink) | |
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Sound system and driver aids?....that is one of the reasons I sold my Hellcat and purchased a Nismo all that crap made me feel like I was driving a luxury car not a true sports car. I dont miss any of that fluff in my Nismo. Plus power plant is not dated. Dated implies it is not as good as present engines. So how do you define good? MPG? True gear heads typically don't define an engine as better because it runs cleaner and has better MPG -that is for the ECO box lovers. Horse power coupled with reliability is much more important. So the Z engine produces good horsepower and has been proven to be able to handle more with forced induction without compromising reliability. However, direct injection produces carbon build up (along with other problems) which then leads to engine issues and expensive repair that must be repeated on an ongoing basis. I had the honor to help a friend of mine repair his DI carbon build up with a walnut shell blasting ..messy, and a true PITA. After doing that..no one would want to own one. Have someone do it for you? $$ plus what self respecting gear head wants someone messing with their engine?...we all know they fix one thing and break another. The primary problem (among others) is there is no fuel being sprayed onto the backside of the intake valves which is where the carbon buildup occurs. However, our "dated" VQ37 MPFI has no problems with carbon build up. Some DI owners in denial will claim this does not occur but it takes time for this carbon build up to manifest itself and when it does symptoms include: Drivability issues, engine not running smoothly Engine vibration or shaking Car jerking or surging at stops Check engine light may be on Cold start misfires Sounds like DI is dated technology to a non tree huger who cares more about Performance and reliability. Reality check: With tight fuel economy standards, this is why we are being sold it is better .. Dont believe me?...simply type in Direction Injection and Carbon Build up on a search engine and read away.... Here is one: http://driving.ca/auto-news/news/doe...than-it-solves
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The sooner you realize nissan does not care the sooner you will let go. Just look what they did to the GTR.... my local dealer hasnt sold one in 4 months lol. I loved my Z but getting out of that thing was the greatest decision i ever made. Nissan makes wonderful sports cars and milks every last dime and penny until no longer, i get that they arent special cars but for a 100k car like the gtr to be worth less than 76k in 2 years and 20k miles is beyond ridiculous, theyre economy car line up is also awful, owning a sentra and recent year maxima idk why in hell anyone would buy that over a toyota or honda. that being said i still am looking to get into a Z lololol
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04-18-2017, 07:44 PM | #24 (permalink) | |
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You just confirmed that although everyone wants new, in the end the Z is the best looking, best priced, most reliable performance car you can buy.
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I worked for many years (over a decade) as a teir one supplier to Nissan, Subaru and Honda for engine and drivetrain assemblies.
As a result, I know each company, their engineers and management very well. Bottom line: Nissan does not make money on the 370Z program. Not enough sales volume and margin to invest in new product design and development. I know that there are those at Nissan that have great loyalty to the long heritage of the Z product (like Corvette & Camaro, do at GM). Problem is the the bean counters put pressure on leadership to make certain margins and payback on capital investments by program. Nissan has hopefully now gotten thier ROI on the product since production began in 2008, but I would be surprised if the bankers would be willing to invest millions in new design and tooling for a new 400Z. I really love the 370Z product, and even liked my old 280ZX very much. The 370Z is a great and well balanced performance sports car that is affordable. Hang on to yours, because in 10 years when there arent any, you will be glad you kept it. |
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Why is everybody so worried about the future of Z cars. Most obviously love the 370, and it's not like a new Z will change your 370 at all. Times change, and markets change. Why would Nissan put a lot of money into a car that they only sell 7000 a year. It's a low cost low production car.
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The GTR actually holds value. The Z holds value even better. I sold my 4.5 yr old 370z for 50% msrp |
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