Not a Priority?

MacCool

Likely true. Sports cars are a niche market that is increasingly technology dependent, therefore increasingly expensive. Your choices will be between the $70,000 BMWs and the $30,000 Miatas.

Larso1

Some people make a big deal out of the 370Z being around since 2009, but the Giugiaro-designed VW Golf/GTi has been around since 1974(!) and each of its 7 generations look very much the same. Haven't heard anyone complain about it. That fact was mentioned in Automobile magazine

2011 Nismo#91

People would have a problem if the 2017 Golf had the engine, interior, electrical, colors, sound, etc. from 1974. The Z's power plant is dated, Direct injection would help fuel efficiency and tuning and most cars are going turbo direct from the manufacturer these days. The sound system is still dated especially in appearance. Auto technology has changed alot since 2008 especially with driver aids that many find appealing.

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SINISTER

IMOP...

Sound system and driver aids?....that is one of the reasons I sold my Hellcat and purchased a Nismo all that crap made me feel like I was driving a luxury car not a true sports car. I dont miss any of that fluff in my Nismo.

Plus power plant is not dated. Dated implies it is not as good as present engines. So how do you define good? MPG? True gear heads typically don't define an engine as better because it runs cleaner and has better MPG -that is for the ECO box lovers. Horse power coupled with reliability is much more important. So the Z engine produces good horsepower and has been proven to be able to handle more with forced induction without compromising reliability. However, direct injection produces carbon build up (along with other problems) which then leads to engine issues and expensive repair that must be repeated on an ongoing basis. I had the honor to help a friend of mine repair his DI carbon build up with a walnut shell blasting ..messy, and a true PITA. After doing that..no one would want to own one. Have someone do it for you? $$ plus what self respecting gear head wants someone messing with their engine?...we all know they fix one thing and break another. The primary problem (among others) is there is no fuel being sprayed onto the backside of the intake valves which is where the carbon buildup occurs. However, our "dated" VQ37 MPFI has no problems with carbon build up. Some DI owners in denial will claim this does not occur but it takes time for this carbon build up to manifest itself and when it does symptoms include:

Drivability issues, engine not running smoothly
Engine vibration or shaking
Car jerking or surging at stops
Check engine light may be on
Cold start misfires

Sounds like DI is dated technology to a non tree huger who cares more about Performance and reliability.
Reality check: With tight fuel economy standards, this is why we are being sold it is better ..

Dont believe me?...simply type in Direction Injection and Carbon Build up on a search engine and read away....

Here is one: http://driving.ca/auto-news/news/doe...than-it-solves

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Spooler

Driver aids. I hate them with a passion. I can't stand the few driver aids my Nismo has. Learn how to dang drive. Oh, I guess that is someone else's fault.

Cyber370

Don't forget the Porsche 911. It's been the same basic shape and drivetrain design/layout since the 60's and no one has a problem with that! The 911 cannot do any wrong and car reviewers never bitch about that.


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ssmoked

Only fallacy with your Porsche 911 argument is that it out performs every car in its segment with its engine and handling

Cyber370

Yes but does the base 911 out-accelerate or have more horsepower than every car in its segment? No it doesn't. This is my point. Neither does the 370z. However, a sports car needs to do everything well, not just accelerate 0-60 or 1/4 mile. It needs to feel and handle like a sports car. As long as it has that, it is still relevant.

In its price range, I challenge you to find a better sports car than the Z (no, hot hatches don't count).

Same goes for the GTR. It still kicks *** in its class.

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DavidZ370

The sooner you realize nissan does not care the sooner you will let go. Just look what they did to the GTR.... my local dealer hasnt sold one in 4 months lol. I loved my Z but getting out of that thing was the greatest decision i ever made. Nissan makes wonderful sports cars and milks every last dime and penny until no longer, i get that they arent special cars but for a 100k car like the gtr to be worth less than 76k in 2 years and 20k miles is beyond ridiculous, theyre economy car line up is also awful, owning a sentra and recent year maxima idk why in hell anyone would buy that over a toyota or honda. that being said i still am looking to get into a Z lololol

SINISTER

Wait ....

You just confirmed that although everyone wants new, in the end the Z is the best looking, best priced, most reliable performance car you can buy.

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DavidZ370

Yes and no, I love the Z cars always have so i am bias. the Z is a great car but its far and behind in many categories these days, hell my 4d is faster.. has real trunk space and corners 10x better, and it was had for the mrsp of a sport Z. I would get in one but a used one IF that. I agree with looks and reliability but penny for penny it definitely is not, the GT, SS, are a few examples of cars that though are not "REAL" sports cars are far faster and handle better... something a sports car should dominate in. Though people say a car is not an investment doesn't mean the value should go to **** completely... just look at subaru [=

ssmoked

That's nothing. The new $100k ZO6 only has 53% residual value after a 3 yr lease. Any German north of 50k loses half value after 3 yrs also.

The GTR actually holds value.

The Z holds value even better. I sold my 4.5 yr old 370z for 50% msrp

DavidZ370

Agree for the most part minus the GTR holding value.

ssmoked

What's your evidence it doesn't? Have you searched used GTR inventory/price recently? Unless it has very miles, even 09' are asking well over 50k

DavidZ370

Thats atrocious....... idk why you think in anyway thats remotely good, theres a local 2014 going for 68k with 33k miles lol..... why? because nissan did what nissan does, milk the **** out of the GTR. Not saying its not a great car, just saying nissan as a whole has a way of destroying the market for them. The car holds less value than the most base subaru you can ever find lol.