HELP MILLIONS of SCRATCHES

zrider · 12-09-2009, 11:00 AM

so i was out the other day and in nova ( nothern virginia ) we had a whole night of ice/sleeting rain. my car had been outside for a while and had to drive it home. this morning i checked to see for scratches... and my god there are MILLIONS of those little scratches you see on black cars.. any suggestions on getting them out or anything? need your input thanks !

kenchan · 12-09-2009, 01:02 PM

are you talking about swirls? if so, you'll need to polish that out.

vipor · 12-09-2009, 01:02 PM

Rnmovr12 · 12-09-2009, 01:06 PM

ive used meguiars scratchx with some luck in the past. pick up a tube and try it in a small area to see if itll help

vipor · 12-09-2009, 01:07 PM

possibly a lil clay bar action too

cptspeed · 12-09-2009, 01:47 PM

orbital and a mild polish.

Blown32 · 12-09-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zrider

so i was out the other day and in nova ( nothern virginia ) we had a whole night of ice/sleeting rain. my car had been outside for a while and had to drive it home. this morning i checked to see for scratches... and my god there are MILLIONS of those little scratches you see on black cars.. any suggestions on getting them out or anything? need your input thanks !

Get used to it because I have always had black cars and my 370 is black!Without a doubt the worst paint I have ever dealt with and I grew up in body shops.If a bird as much as looks at the car in the summer it immediately eats into the clear coat and can't be removed.Could wet sand but who knows how many coats of this junk is on the car?Need at least 3 to 4 coats of clear on a car to start wet sanding and buffing.If less can burn through the clear coat by sanding or buffing.
Some on here have said what do you expect for a $30 to $40,000 sports car.Well that is pure bull!I've had $20,000Toyota pickups in black and the paint is GREAT even after 10 years!
This clear coat is pure junk!Nissan for sure cut corners here and dropped the ball.

370Zsteve · 12-09-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blown32

Get used to it because I have always had black cars and my 370 is black!Without a doubt the worst paint I have ever dealt with and I grew up in body shops.

Your body shop didn't work on Fords?

GT Motoring · 12-09-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Your body shop didn't work on Fords?

Are you saying Ford paint is worse than Nissan

Montez · 12-09-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Blown32

Get used to it because I have always had black cars and my 370 is black!Without a doubt the worst paint I have ever dealt with and I grew up in body shops.If a bird as much as looks at the car in the summer it immediately eats into the clear coat and can't be removed.Could wet sand but who knows how many coats of this junk is on the car?Need at least 3 to 4 coats of clear on a car to start wet sanding and buffing.If less can burn through the clear coat by sanding or buffing.
Some on here have said what do you expect for a $30 to $40,000 sports car.Well that is pure bull!I've had $20,000Toyota pickups in black and the paint is GREAT even after 10 years!
This clear coat is pure junk!Nissan for sure cut corners here and dropped the ball.

Nisan paint hs been bad since about 2000, most Max's and Z's from 2002ish build on without a clear bra the front ends are blasted. Not to mention how easy the rest of the body scratches..........

cptspeed · 12-09-2009, 04:52 PM

My exes 92 sentra had a garbage paint job. Fords paint fades badly. If your Z is a daily driver, or lots of hwy miles, you will paint it one day.

KillerBee370 · 12-09-2009, 07:52 PM

If you guys had just gotten yellow you wouldn't have these silly issues.

MeetJoeAsian · 12-10-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Blown32

If a bird as much as looks at the car in the summer it immediately eats into the clear coat and can't be removed.

Blown32 · 12-10-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Your body shop didn't work on Fords?

Never see any clear coat as bad as this on the new Z.Fords included!

FricFrac · 12-10-2009, 11:23 PM

The clear coat is average - the VW's have an even softer clear. Its also give and take - the softer clears scratch easier but are more resistant to chipping. However if you've got a rock flying at your bumper at 100+ MPH good luck.... The best paints seem to be the European cars esp German. But then again they are pretty good when it comes to chemical engineering. There are lots of other cars out there with the same average clear coat as our cars.

Oh and clay bar has nothing to do with taking scratches out - it takes impurities embeded in your clear coat out - its not used as an abrasive but almost like a tack cloth works on a dusty surface.

12-09-2009, 11:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
zrider Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 175 Drives: 2009 370z Black M/T Rep Power: 16	HELP MILLIONS of SCRATCHES so i was out the other day and in nova ( nothern virginia ) we had a whole night of ice/sleeting rain. my car had been outside for a while and had to drive it home. this morning i checked to see for scratches... and my god there are MILLIONS of those little scratches you see on black cars.. any suggestions on getting them out or anything? need your input thanks !

12-09-2009, 01:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
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Rnmovr12 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 59 Drives: 99 TJ Rep Power: 16	ive used meguiars scratchx with some luck in the past. pick up a tube and try it in a small area to see if itll help __________________ my photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coltonstark/

12-09-2009, 01:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	possibly a lil clay bar action too Snow dog likes this. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

12-10-2009, 11:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
FricFrac A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 1,481 Drives: 370Z 300ZX 280ZX 240 Rep Power: 229	The clear coat is average - the VW's have an even softer clear. Its also give and take - the softer clears scratch easier but are more resistant to chipping. However if you've got a rock flying at your bumper at 100+ MPH good luck.... The best paints seem to be the European cars esp German. But then again they are pretty good when it comes to chemical engineering. There are lots of other cars out there with the same average clear coat as our cars. Oh and clay bar has nothing to do with taking scratches out - it takes impurities embeded in your clear coat out - its not used as an abrasive but almost like a tack cloth works on a dusty surface. __________________ '09 370Z - '93 300ZX Vert - '83 280ZX - '83 280ZXT -'81 280ZXT stroker - '72 240Z - Stillen CBE, HFC, G3, Grounding Kit, Sways // Swift Spring // H&R 15mm // 5% Tint // Clear Bra //

12-09-2009, 01:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	are you talking about swirls? if so, you'll need to polish that out.

12-09-2009, 01:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 17	orbital and a mild polish.

12-09-2009, 04:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 17	My exes 92 sentra had a garbage paint job. Fords paint fades badly. If your Z is a daily driver, or lots of hwy miles, you will paint it one day.

12-09-2009, 07:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 52 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 321	If you guys had just gotten yellow you wouldn't have these silly issues.

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