Goodbye Shell V-Nitro

ChaseZ · 03-11-2017, 11:01 AM

Hmm I always run premium in small engines though never with any real kind to where from, perhaps I should change that habit. Easy enough to do. Thanks for the tip

kenchan · 03-11-2017, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Raeshlavik

Here in Colorado the best we get on the street corner is 91 octane - but at 5000+ feet the lower air pressure going into a NA engine allows for it so it usually works out.

With a boosted engine up here, like the one in my Abarth, you typically start looking at octane boosters or water/methanol injection because pump gas here is expecting 10-12 PSI atmospheric, but the turbo is supplying 20-30 PSI.

should go shopping at sherwin williams for toulene

srbrubak · 03-11-2017, 11:29 AM

Here is what Shell gas sells for where I live. This station is about a mile from where I live.

ChaseZ · 03-11-2017, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

should go shopping at sherwin williams for toulene

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Toluene is one of the higher-value molecules already in use in many gasoline blends. The main benefit is that it's an octane booster that does not dilute the energy content of the gasoline like ethanol does. It's a C7 aromatic molecule, which means it contains a lot of energy and vaporizes easily, but not so easily that it's an air pollutant like lighter benzene (C6 aromatic) and butane (C4) molecules, which percolate out of unsealed gas tanks and contribute to smog.

The tricky thing about adding aromatics is that the total quantity in your fuel shouldn't exceed about 30%, which is the sum of all the benzene, toluene, and xylene put together. Many regular gasoline blends already contain significant amounts of aromatics -- up to 30%! -- so there's no simple way to tell how much more you can safely add. As it happens, the higher quality gasoline blends (which supposedly includes Shell and Chevron gas but don't quote me on that) already contain a lot of toluene and xylene. Adding toluene is more likely to improve low-octane gas than high-octane gas.

A rule of thumb floating around the internet is that you can safely add 10% toluene to your gas without causing engine issues. So that would increase your 93 octane gas to (93 * .9) + (114 * .1) = 95.1 octane.

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Zat_Zuma · 03-11-2017, 01:11 PM

More Toluene, Xylene and C8+ aromatics than you realize. Most of the Benzene is stripped out and sold separately for Styrene production.

Unfortunately the Shell V-Power is different from Eastern Canada compared to Western Canada and the USA. Different Crude oil supplies and blending formulas to fit the local market.

The best bang for the octane rating is Iso-Octane. Pure 100 octane. Forget adding Toluene to gasoline to boost octane route. It doesn't work well enough and you don't really know what octane you end up with and the drivability goes out the window.

However for true drivability and guaranteed octane ...... buy the unleaded race gas from your local supplier. It should have no Ethanol and be around 99 Octane. It will be consistent

ChaseZ · 03-11-2017, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma

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However for true drivability and guaranteed octane ...... buy the unleaded race gas from your local supplier. It should have no Ethanol and be around 99 Octane. It will be consistent

And consistently $3.50/litre

I'd love to run MS103/109 but it would cost close to $300 to fill it up!

Edit: PS that was your 1,000th post!

cooltoy · 03-11-2017, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaseZ

Edit: PS that was your 1,000th post!

JARblue · 03-11-2017, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveBad

"And now, the girl in the car WITH V-Nitro, is saying "YES" to her boyfriend!"

"It will prevent her from getting pregnant, too!"

ChaseZ · 03-11-2017, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

"It will prevent her from getting pregnant, too!"

No wonder we don't get it here!

Zat_Zuma · 03-12-2017, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaseZ

Edit: PS that was your 1,000th post!

Long way to go before I reach the sainthood level of you and cooltoy
but thanks.

PaulZ370 · 03-12-2017, 09:08 PM

Filled up today with V-Nitro at US $2.45/GAL (that's US $0.647/Liter) in Covington, Louisiana. (1 Gal = 3.7854 Liters)

Thank God I live in Louisiana.

Smashley · 03-12-2017, 09:15 PM

Filled up just now with V-nitro(93) at $2.99($56) near Washington DC.

Chan Chee Hoe · 03-13-2017, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370

Filled up today with V-Nitro at US $2.45/GAL (that's US $0.647/Liter) in Covington, Louisiana. (1 Gal = 3.7854 Liters)

Thank God I live in Louisiana.

Petrol is almost the cheapest in a 1st World Country.

Louie cat · 03-13-2017, 08:44 AM

Its only money. We all waste a heck of alot of it on other things. So what is 90cents or a dollar something more for our prized Z cars

Probably comes out to less than $3 a month for the most part.

kenchan · 03-13-2017, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Louie cat

Its only money. We all waste a heck of alot of it on other things. So what is 90cents or a dollar something more for our prized Z cars

Probably comes out to less than $3 a month for the most part.

i dont even look at da price per gallon when i pump. i just make sure da price on the screen matches da receipt and drive off.

given said dat, i dont know how much gas is around my area for 93. lol

03-11-2017, 01:11 PM	#35 (permalink)
Zat_Zuma A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta ...eh Posts: 1,171 Drives: 2017 Touring auto Rep Power: 19	More Toluene, Xylene and C8+ aromatics than you realize. Most of the Benzene is stripped out and sold separately for Styrene production. Unfortunately the Shell V-Power is different from Eastern Canada compared to Western Canada and the USA. Different Crude oil supplies and blending formulas to fit the local market. The best bang for the octane rating is Iso-Octane. Pure 100 octane. Forget adding Toluene to gasoline to boost octane route. It doesn't work well enough and you don't really know what octane you end up with and the drivability goes out the window. However for true drivability and guaranteed octane ...... buy the unleaded race gas from your local supplier. It should have no Ethanol and be around 99 Octane. It will be consistent ChaseZ likes this. __________________ [B]2009 & 2017 370Z Touring Sport Autos SOLD

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PaulZ370 Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Covington, LA Posts: 956 Drives: 011 370 BSM/T/SP/6MT Rep Power: 16	Filled up today with V-Nitro at US $2.45/GAL (that's US $0.647/Liter) in Covington, Louisiana. (1 Gal = 3.7854 Liters) Thank God I live in Louisiana. __________________ *BD2ZBN :: 2011 BSM/TRG/SP/6MT/Stillen Oil Cooler/K&N CAI/Michelin PSS/Brake Light/EIBACH Sway Bars/FI Res. HFC+18" Res. CBE/Morimoto XB LED/DRLs/10mm Spacers*

03-13-2017, 08:44 AM	#44 (permalink)
Louie cat Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: florida Posts: 261 Drives: 2010 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 142	Its only money. We all waste a heck of alot of it on other things. So what is 90cents or a dollar something more for our prized Z cars Probably comes out to less than $3 a month for the most part. kenchan and JARblue like this.

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03-11-2017, 11:01 AM	#31 (permalink)
ChaseZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2016 Location: Calgary Posts: 3,799 Drives: 16 370z Rep Power: 94683	Hmm I always run premium in small engines though never with any real kind to where from, perhaps I should change that habit. Easy enough to do. Thanks for the tip

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Smashley Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Maryland Posts: 347 Drives: mt/sport/tour MB Rep Power: 12	Filled up just now with V-nitro(93) at $2.99($56) near Washington DC.