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Hey everyone just wanted to see your input on what method or habit you developed when you downshift to a desired gear. I have developed and maintained a habit since

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Old 02-22-2017, 01:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey everyone just wanted to see your input on what method or habit you developed when you downshift to a desired gear. I have developed and maintained a habit since i been told from a reference that it is better to downshift in a sequential order to preserve the longevity of the transmission. But i do come across videos on youtube of people driving their Z or any vehicle and they would shift to a desire gear directly in non a sequential order. So what i would like to find out is, do you have a habit when you downshift? and if anyone wants/or cares to elaborate, is there a right way to downshift to a desire gear?

Thank you and i tried to search and no answer i was looking for.
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I don't have a set rule for when to downshift, depends on tbe situation. If in 6th and coming to a stop downshifting from 6th to 1st in my opinion is a pita. If you get a chubby from hearing your RPMs going up as you downshift to a stop, go for it.

If coming to a light, I'll either coast or brake, than shift to in my opinion, the appropriate gear to accelerate based on speed...
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Coming to a stop, there is honestly no need to downshift. If I'm cruising and I see an inevitable stop, I'm putting it straight to neutral. If the traffic slows down without stopping, I do downshift in a sequential order while rev matching with heel-toe. I don't see why anyone would skip gears when downshifting.
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Rules? There are no rules other than making sure that SRM is heard. Our tranny can handle anything and can take a beating.

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sequenial downshifting is good for gradual engine braking but not necessary
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I rarely downshift. I usually put it in neutral. only when my speed gets too low for the gear and then if I want to speed up and I know that gear is too high i'll downshift to the proper gear and then run the gears up normally.
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Going in sequential order is just placing unnecessary wear and tear on those synchros, sliders and gears, if you don't plan on staying in those gears anyways. If you are just downshifting to come to a stop (on the street), don't do that, drivetrain parts are expensive, brakes are cheap.

Ideally you would quickly blip the throttle to bring the RPMs up where they should be in that gear, while the clutch is in, and put it directly in the gear you want to be in. Get good enough at matching RPMs you can shift smoothly without the clutch entirely. I don't recommend this, but knowing this might get you home one day in a clutchless car (FYI).
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Clutch in > slow down to your desired speed with brake pedal > put in appropriate gear > clutch pedal out. Really basic stuff that you should've been tought in driving school. You can go from 6th to 2nd it doesn't matter or 6th to neutral if going to full stop.
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A codicil to the op's question:
When you're sitting at a red light, and you know it will be a slow one, do you leave it in gear with the clutch in, or in neutral? Also, assuming no roll, brakes on, or not?
Curiosity, as 45 years of habits aren't going to change.

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My Habit is one of two options:
1. With S-mode on Depress clutch and downshift then release clutch.
2. With S-mode off turn S-mode on and follow 1.

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... I been told from a reference that it is better to downshift in a sequential order to preserve the longevity of the transmission.
As long as the revs are close it makes no difference what gear you select.
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I go from 5th to 1st and then let the clutch fly. SRM off. Stops me every time.
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Clutch in > slow down to your desired speed with brake pedal > put in appropriate gear > clutch pedal out. Really basic stuff that you should've been tought in driving school. You can go from 6th to 2nd it doesn't matter or 6th to neutral if going to full stop.
I've had a lot of instructors tell me this is bad advice, as you are in neutral if something unexpected occurs. You have to put the car back in gear to get out of the way. They recommended engine braking in gear instead.

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A codicil to the op's question:
When you're sitting at a red light, and you know it will be a slow one, do you leave it in gear with the clutch in, or in neutral? Also, assuming no roll, brakes on, or not?
Curiosity, as 45 years of habits aren't going to change.

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Put it in neutral. It's bad for the throw out bearing to hold it in through a red light. These cars have enough clutch issues without the user making them worse.
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I go from 5th to 1st and then let the clutch fly. SRM off. Stops me every time.
why 1st? go reverse! works just like reverse thrusterz on a jetliner
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A codicil to the op's question:
When you're sitting at a red light, and you know it will be a slow one, do you leave it in gear with the clutch in, or in neutral? Also, assuming no roll, brakes on, or not?
Curiosity, as 45 years of habits aren't going to change.

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Out of gear. No need to hold pressure on the throwout bearing if you're going to be there for a bit.

And I tend to let off the brakes too if the car isn't going to roll...

The problem with this is the people around you have been trained since birth on an automatic transmission and assume no brake lights means they need to accelerate. So the view out of the mirror can get a bit tense on occasion.
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why 1st? go reverse! works just like reverse thrusterz on a jetliner
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