Jalopnik 370z article-REFRESH needed

SOUTHZZ

Any others catch this piece posted on Jalopnik.com?

Rather negative in nature.
Bottom line was-the Z is in dire need for a REFRESH.
In addition,was very over priced.

Got to say ,as a old time Z guy(owned a 240Z&a Z33),I have to agree.

What the article and numerous posts did not address is what can be done
before Nissan decides on what a new Z will look like.
IMO,the Z34&very affordable Z33 cars can be had for fire sale prices on the used market.To be sure,they do not offer the latest in auto technology.
But,parts are available to both upgrade the performance and looks of the Z at
reasonable prices. I upgraded my Z33 with carbon fiber to give it a more
today look.
Yes,I sure would not plunk down close to 50K on a new Z34 roadster.
In fact,regular Z34's sold new would not be my choice for the asking price.
Used Z's are indeed bargains for what you get.

OhioYJ

Link to said article?

Only thing I saw was the old one where they drove the convertible, Link.

fifteennismo

Was it this one?

Comment Of The Day: There's A New Old Nissan In Town

B&W_Evader

To me, old school feel and connection of the driver to the road is what makes the Z great. Every mod I do seems to take my car further away from what the so-called experts seem to think of as modernizing. Personally, I don't need any nanny watching my how hard I press my foot down, I don't need bluetooth, I don't need a USB port, I don't need navigation, I don't need a super fancy radio. All I really want is more power, better handling, better road feel. I love the wrap around cockpit feel of the Z but I sure wish I could put a 5 point in it without modding the interior.

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JTM88

Of course Jalipnik doesn't like it, it's not a brown manual diesel wagon


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SOUTHZZ

Yep--thanks for the link

SOUTHZZ

Was not surprised on the Z negatives in the Jalopnik article.
Of course,Jalopnik pretty much keeps up with everything new.
Our Z in their eyes has gotten a bit dated to many.

I for one is waiting for a new Z. Nissan and Datsun before has followed the same pattern of bring out a innovative cost effective vehicle then follows
by adding excessive styling touches and extra weight.
I still have my 350Z I bought in 2002. Much modified in power and
styling .For sure,have put in the bucks but I get comments daily if its
the new Z. Have not totally warmed up to my z34. Actually like the 33
better.

Redglare

here is the response I posted; of course it got censored by the article editor, so much for freedom of speech.

"The design and the car is dated, but the fact remains - this is the only affordable porsche cayman fighter out there.

It sits in such a position where its filling the gap between the FRS and the Camaro/Mustang.

You are shopping for a dedicated sports car, and want something lighter than the mustang that handles good but is more powerful than the FT86.

You can pick up a base 370z right between the price point of the two cars listed above,

Yes it’s dated, in the same sense that the A10 warthog or sliced bread is dated, the Z has no ‘true’ competitor. The closest car in its class is the porshe cayman, which is in a different realm from the price point.

If you go into used market you can get a very clean example for much cheaper than a new FT86,

it puts down a respectable 0-60 even today (4.8sec is nothing to scoff at),

Its not the fastest thing on the road (but its not the slowest either)- and its not mean to be fast in a straight line, if you want an all in one good handling package from japan that has some oomph, you go for the 370z simple as that.

Sure the car has some flaws, but so do all the other cars out there.

This is exactly the reason why the used clean examples are holding such good value.

When nissan does come out with the next gen, the 370 will still remain an awesome bargain proposition.

-as far as ‘dated’ technology; can you point on what is dated in it besides the design?? (which is still so rare on the streets that it somehow remains fresh)

-let’s see; carbon fiber drive shaft, BBK, synchro rev matching, proven stout powerplant, lighter than the 350z, enough power to hold its own, fun to drive.

None of those things above seem dated to me, if anything is dated is the new STi, what did it bring to the table besides a new body?"

JTM88

There's a reason I stopped reading their articles.


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OhioYJ

This.

I've owned / built several Mustangs now and went looking for a new daily driver a new GT Premium was also at the top of my list, until I drove one. The 370 is much more fun car to drive "out of the box", and the handling is the primary reason.

Everyone seems to thinks it needs to be cheaper, it needs to have more power, it needs to be faster, etc. Right now it's in a unique spot, and that's part of what makes it' unique. If they make it lighter, faster, etc, it will be more exspensive, and they will sell even less than they do now.

Lets say theoretically they can actually make lighter, faster, etc, AND cheaper. It's not possible, but they've made every one happy right? Except now they have the new Mustang / Camaro killer and now everyone needs one. Now the cars are no longer unique, which will give some Z owners new things to gripe about. However cheaper aftermarket parts might finally arrive?

There is no pleasing everyone. Anyways, time to go enjoy my car the way it is.

ChaseZ

That is exactly what my first thoughts were when I test drove the (my) 2016 370 last spring. I was instantly taken back to the days I enjoyed my 78 280z some 23 years ago. It is better in every way but still kept that feeling that the 280 left me with and while modern was somehow still reminiscent. The same car I test drove with 62km on the clock was in my driveway the very next day.

Oh and just to set it straight the 2016 BASE comes with Bluetooth and USB port for what it's worth. The factory stereo and speakers were gone inside a week anyways though.

SOUTHZZ

AGREE-a Z A z33 or z34 is fantastic "right out of the box"

Have to say that Nissan cheaped out to keep the price down on some materials.

Both my z33&z34 have suffered from scratches on the inside door barrel coves.
Easy fix.
Got a Z brother that runs ZCFcovers that offers carbon fiber covers for them
barrel coves. I bought mine for about 50 bucks shipped.
Sells on ebay.
Upgrades the Z too.

Aiolos

For me , i was looking for a two seater roadster.

Looked at the BMW Z4, 350z, Boxster, Miata, and the 370Z

I liked the handling and the power in the 370Z best

Also the Boxster and the Z4 would have been alot more expensive to customize and install high performance parts in


Didnt want a camaro or mustang, they are everywhere....

Spooler

I completely hate the nanny gadgets the 370z has. I just can't stand them. It is down right annoying. I am more of a 300zxtt guy. I loved that car. If I want to do a donut, done. If I want to step the car out in the rear, done. etc.