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makugx 12-01-2016 07:40 PM

Problems with the Z that should be addressed in 2018 onwards
 
hi

370Z has been my dream car since 2009.
2 months ago I got a 2010 Nismo.

1) there's no OIL cooler. OIL heats up very fast and high. I have to spend $300-600 on OIL cooler (Parts only)
(2012 and up still run hot with stock oil coolers from what I hear.)

2) The gas tank has a real stupid issue where will get oil starvation (even when gas is a bit more than 3/4ths full) when you turn a bit hard to the right, making honda civics seem like Lamborghini next to my stalling Z. (I'm exaggerating for comedic effect here, don't bring out the butthurt)
2017's still have this issue.
You need to spend between $300-1000 to fix this issue. (Parts only)
Also it's not reading the gas tank very well.

3) sound system BLOWS. This varies depending on the user, but to have something decent people will be spending at least $300-500.
(Not asking a luxury system, but something that doesn't sound completely distorted when you put it on 22 volume level)

The reason why I bring this up is mostly so SOMEONE does something for future models. It's mind blowing that a company as legendary as Nissan doesn't address issues very well.

If you know any other issues worth mentioning, try to keep the numbering in order.

Cheers

EZT 12-01-2016 07:45 PM

I'm fairly certain most of those issues were addressed throughout the model years.

cooltoy 12-01-2016 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3584801)

2) The gas tank has a real stupid issue where will get oil starvation when you turn a bit hard to the right

Something is off here.:confused:

enkei2k 12-01-2016 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3584801)
hi

370Z has been my dream car since 2009.
2 months ago I got a 2010 Nismo.

1) there's no OIL cooler. OIL heats up very fast and high. I have to spend $300-600 on OIL cooler (Parts only)

2) The gas tank has a real stupid issue where will get oil starvation when you turn a bit hard to the right, making honda civics seem like Lamborghini next to my stalling Z. (I'm exaggerating for comedic effect here, don't bring out the butthurt)
2017's still have this issue.
You need to spend between $300-1000 to fix this issue. (Parts only)
Also it's not reading the gas tank very well.

3) sound system BLOWS. This varies depending on the user, but to have something decent people will be spending at least $300-500.


The reason why I bring this up is mostly so SOMEONE does something for future models. It's mind blowing that a company as legendary as Nissan doesn't address issues very well.

If you know any other issues worth mentioning, try to keep the numbering in order.

Cheers

1 - oil cooler - should have got a 2012 and up. They come with an oil cooler.

2 - oil starve only happens if you're running low on gas and make really fast turns. Fill up on gas regularly and slow down. I've had the car down to 1 dot and warning light come on with no issues on making right turns.

2 - it's a sports car, not a luxury car with 20 speakers.

makugx 12-01-2016 08:26 PM

Thanks for your response.

I've edited the little details.

1) 2012 and up still run hot with stock oil coolers from what I hear

2) even when gas is a bit more than 3/4ths full

3) (Not asking a luxury system, but something that doesn't sound completely distorted when you put it on 22 volume level)


Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 3584813)
1 - oil cooler - should have got a 2012 and up. They come with an oil cooler.

2 - oil starve only happens if you're running low on gas and make really fast turns. Fill up on gas regularly and slow down. I've had the car down to 1 dot and warning light come on with no issues on making right turns.

2 - it's a sports car, not a luxury car with 20 speakers.


370zBLAST 12-01-2016 08:47 PM

Sheesh i have an 09 and my only complaint is the clucth slave issues. Other then that its a fantastic car.....its built like a go-kart!....oh wait yes i do have 1 complaints...or maybe its my luck or my car but my ac doesnt work. But as far as sound system goes just upgrade. Do everything yourself. Its a sports car. If you dont want extreme buy a headunit and upgrade to better speaker and run a amp.

I have never had oil temp issues but then again i dont beat on my car alot. I just do sprints here and their and 1/4 mile it every so often.

1 other complaints aftermarket hurts the wallet lol

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makugx 12-01-2016 10:18 PM

It's a sports car.
With the obvious history of sports cars by nissan being used for the most extreme sports, having issues like this is counter productive to say the least.

You are a normal civilian driver, you don't stress the car.
people who drive hard have this issue, therefore I'm not sure your input is all that relevant. (no disrespect meant)

Cheers


Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zBLAST (Post 3584830)
Sheesh i have an 09 and my only complaint is the clucth slave issues. Other then that its a fantastic car.....its built like a go-kart!....oh wait yes i do have 1 complaints...or maybe its my luck or my car but my ac doesnt work. But as far as sound system goes just upgrade. Do everything yourself. Its a sports car. If you dont want extreme buy a headunit and upgrade to better speaker and run a amp.

I have never had oil temp issues but then again i dont beat on my car alot. I just do sprints here and their and 1/4 mile it every so often.

1 other complaints aftermarket hurts the wallet lol

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Cyber370 12-02-2016 05:11 AM

Here's what I think of my '16 Nismo so far:
1) Oil cooler is more than sufficient for regular street driving. Never noticed any higher than normal oil temps. But, I've never tracked it.
2) Never noticed any gas starvation issues and I have driven quite aggressively on an almost empty tank (1/8 full).
3) The Bose system that came with my car is quite good. It is supposed to have noise cancelling feature which is probably working but I can't tell.

So yeah, there were improvements over the years. Were all issues completely solved, I don't know.

scope22 12-02-2016 06:16 AM

:horse:

kenchan 12-02-2016 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3584801)
hi

370Z has been my dream car since 2009.
2 months ago I got a 2010 Nismo.

1) there's no OIL cooler. OIL heats up very fast and high. I have to spend $300-600 on OIL cooler (Parts only)
(2012 and up still run hot with stock oil coolers from what I hear.)

2) The gas tank has a real stupid issue where will get oil starvation (even when gas is a bit more than 3/4ths full) when you turn a bit hard to the right, making honda civics seem like Lamborghini next to my stalling Z. (I'm exaggerating for comedic effect here, don't bring out the butthurt)
2017's still have this issue.
You need to spend between $300-1000 to fix this issue. (Parts only)
Also it's not reading the gas tank very well.

3) sound system BLOWS. This varies depending on the user, but to have something decent people will be spending at least $300-500.
(Not asking a luxury system, but something that doesn't sound completely distorted when you put it on 22 volume level)

The reason why I bring this up is mostly so SOMEONE does something for future models. It's mind blowing that a company as legendary as Nissan doesn't address issues very well.

If you know any other issues worth mentioning, try to keep the numbering in order.

Cheers


welcome to 2009

2011 Nismo#91 12-02-2016 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3584801)
hi

370Z has been my dream car since 2009.
2 months ago I got a 2010 Nismo.

1) there's no OIL cooler. OIL heats up very fast and high.
2) The gas tank has a real stupid issue where will get fuel starvation
3) sound system BLOWS.

Drives a 2014 Nismo, Just bought a 2010 nismo. :confused:

Anyway, 1 & 2 are really autocross and road course issues that don't effect the majority of people. And 3, you know that from the first test drive. You can get a high quality system for less then the added cost of the bose option, also there is so much road noise sound quality is less of an issue.

Also I would love to know where #2 is fixed for $300, there are only 2 solutions I know of one is $1k and the other is to cut the tank in half.

For the majority of Z owners the CSC and thin paint are the only real issues.

kenchan 12-02-2016 07:54 AM

could be da master cylinder too..

Duc_Z09 12-02-2016 08:35 AM

How about the fact that it's almost 2017 and the car hasn't had a meaningful update since it was released like 8 years ago?

/thread

enkei2k 12-02-2016 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3584816)
Thanks for your response.

I've edited the little details.

1) 2012 and up still run hot with stock oil coolers from what I hear

2) even when gas is a bit more than 3/4ths full

3) (Not asking a luxury system, but something that doesn't sound completely distorted when you put it on 22 volume level)

1 - depends if you're using it aggressively in AutoX, drift events etc. Normally driving, shouldn't be an issue. Max I've hit was ~225 on a 90+ degree day with somewhat high humidity in stop and go traffic in NY.

2 - something else is wrong and not the fuel starve issue if it's more than 75% full. That should only happen when fuel is low.

3 - most speakers will have distortion if you turn it up that high, unless it comes with branded speakers. Most manufacturers put audio on the bottom of their list of priorities for their cars, except for their higher trim level ones.

white37014 12-02-2016 10:14 AM

In terms of concept and changes like or not Z34 is dead. Any and all thought should be looked at for the future for the Z35, I would not expect any changes what so ever in the future for the current Z,

ChaseZ 12-02-2016 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 3585037)
2 - something else is wrong and not the fuel starve issue if it's more than 75% full. That should only happen when fuel is low.

Had it happen once on a good 3/4 tank sweeping S high speed cornering. Threw a code too.

kenchan 12-02-2016 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3584983)
How about the fact that it's almost 2017 and the car hasn't had a meaningful update since it was released like 8 years ago?

/thread

it has. dey removed the steering lock cause dey couldnt fix da problem.. :ugh:

kenchan 12-02-2016 11:00 AM

be happy dey didnt remove the MT cause dey couldnt fix da problem..

AestheticCM1 12-02-2016 03:30 PM

The Bose system in my fully loaded touring sounds pretty sweet to me.

LMBmikeZ 12-02-2016 03:39 PM

bose>base but that's a no brainer lol

UNKNOWN_370 12-02-2016 04:22 PM

I think we're a Lil long in the tooth for issue addressing. We just need a new car with that turbo engine.

Drops Mic.

kenchan 12-02-2016 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 3585221)
bose>base but that's a no brainer lol

bose < base + pioneer HU very easily to do

hey dere mike! :hello:

JARblue 12-02-2016 04:49 PM

My biggest issue with the car is the way it sounds like I have an exhaust leak when I do the Home Depot washer mod :mad:

jaedub 12-02-2016 04:50 PM

Who needs good speakers when you have a F.I. Non-res catback?

Ventruck 12-02-2016 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3584801)
hi

370Z has been my dream car since 2009.
2 months ago I got a 2010 Nismo.

1) there's no OIL cooler. OIL heats up very fast and high. I have to spend $300-600 on OIL cooler (Parts only)
(2012 and up still run hot with stock oil coolers from what I hear.)

2) The gas tank has a real stupid issue where will get oil starvation (even when gas is a bit more than 3/4ths full) when you turn a bit hard to the right, making honda civics seem like Lamborghini next to my stalling Z. (I'm exaggerating for comedic effect here, don't bring out the butthurt)
2017's still have this issue.
You need to spend between $300-1000 to fix this issue. (Parts only)
Also it's not reading the gas tank very well.

3) sound system BLOWS. This varies depending on the user, but to have something decent people will be spending at least $300-500.
(Not asking a luxury system, but something that doesn't sound completely distorted when you put it on 22 volume level)

The reason why I bring this up is mostly so SOMEONE does something for future models. It's mind blowing that a company as legendary as Nissan doesn't address issues very well.

If you know any other issues worth mentioning, try to keep the numbering in order.

Cheers

Not to rain on the parade, but people have discussed these issues before, and you can't count on Nissan being that "SOMEONE". Just got my Z this year, too, and it's been a long time coming since eye-ing it upon debut (was just starting college). Knew about the issues as I was scoping what to look out for with used models. CSC, clutch and flywheel upgrades were done to take care of the obvious issue, as well as up response and smooth out shifting.

Ecutek actually covers a few bases considerably:
-brings some low-end
-fixes laggy throttle respone
-cooling is a much less of an issue for regular driving (radiator fan timing is adjusted)

Not sure if a tuner can override or adjust SRM, but if they could stop it from holding revs during upshifts that be a nice step up.

As a daily driver, the only lingering concerns for me atm is the fuel starve, which remedied by driving and fueling habits (although that's lame), and I think my trunk will be due for fixing soon.

Magic Bus 12-03-2016 12:50 AM

First & foremost, Nissan should come out with a totally new Z for model year 2018. Then we can bitch about da flaws in dat one :icon17:

Louie cat 12-03-2016 01:23 AM

I had a c6 corvette with multiple issues that weren't fixed in later years too. Every car brand has issues, ours are no exception so we either fix it or live with it.

MacCool 12-03-2016 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3584801)
hi

370Z has been my dream car since 2009.
2 months ago I got a 2010 Nismo.

1) there's no OIL cooler. OIL heats up very fast and high. I have to spend $300-600 on OIL cooler (Parts only)
(2012 and up still run hot with stock oil coolers from what I hear.)

2) The gas tank has a real stupid issue where will get oil starvation (even when gas is a bit more than 3/4ths full) when you turn a bit hard to the right, making honda civics seem like Lamborghini next to my stalling Z. (I'm exaggerating for comedic effect here, don't bring out the butthurt)
2017's still have this issue.
You need to spend between $300-1000 to fix this issue. (Parts only)
Also it's not reading the gas tank very well.

3) sound system BLOWS. This varies depending on the user, but to have something decent people will be spending at least $300-500.
(Not asking a luxury system, but something that doesn't sound completely distorted when you put it on 22 volume level)

The reason why I bring this up is mostly so SOMEONE does something for future models. It's mind blowing that a company as legendary as Nissan doesn't address issues very well.

If you know any other issues worth mentioning, try to keep the numbering in order.

Cheers

I don't track my 2014 Z, but I've been known to drive in a "spirited" fashion. I've never, ever, had a fuel starvation issue no matter how empty the gas tank.

My car does have an oil cooler and I've never had even the slightest concern for oil temps. I suspect very few ever would if there wasn't an oil temperature gauge right there on the dash where you can obsess over it.

As to sound system...that's entirely subjective. In a low-slung sports car with minimal sound dampening and the rear wheel is about 12 inches from you ears, to even speak of harmonic distortion is silly IMHO. I'm confident for the vast majority, the stock system, especially the Bose, is completely adequate. IMHO. YMMV, but you can't propose your view of the sound system as an absolute. It's especially suspect to complain about current models since you're driving a 2010.

l2iceman 12-03-2016 12:00 PM

I'm happy with the Bose in my 2010, coming from an s2k, this sound blows my mind lol

markesc 12-03-2016 01:48 PM

I've had a ton of POS cars in my life, so I have a ton of gratitude just to own a 370z, so I'm keeping it, and will do a few basic mods...

Nithmo 12-03-2016 02:21 PM

I've driven my Nismo with a 1/8 full gas tank at stupid speeds through the corners and never had that issue...

The sound system in the Nismo is not too shabby either. I mean, it's nothing crazy, but I was pleasantly surprised when streaming media through the stock stereo. I've had that thing playing louder than necessary and never had distortion issues. Also, I don't need another 100 pounds in big *** speaker magnets throughout a cabin that is smaller than a medium sized moving box.

As stated, it's a sports car, not a luxury grand tourer. The funny thing is, IF Nissan corrected some of OPs complaints, the car would then be too expensive. Yeah, you can get a decent quality speakers for $500, but comparing aftermarket prices to OEM cars does not equate. Not even closely.

370zBLAST 12-03-2016 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3584876)
It's a sports car.
With the obvious history of sports cars by nissan being used for the most extreme sports, having issues like this is counter productive to say the least.

You are a normal civilian driver, you don't stress the car.
people who drive hard have this issue, therefore I'm not sure your input is all that relevant. (no disrespect meant)

Cheers

Im sure there's a fine line between driving your car the right way and beating on your car the wrong way. Since I'm a civilian driver I like to keep it under the line of beating on my car. Since i just street drive it with occasional 1/4 mile times...and even then i still didnt have oil temps problem or car issues outside the facts of what I stated in my previous comments.

Cheers.



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Rusty 12-03-2016 11:44 PM

I've had fuel starve on the street at 5/8 tank. 3/4 tank on the track. If you never had fuel starve, you never had been close to pushing the car. You've only been to about 70% of the car. :driving:

370zBLAST 12-04-2016 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3585698)
I've had fuel starve on the street at 5/8 tank. 3/4 tank on the track. If you never had fuel starve, you never had been close to pushing the car. You've only been to about 70% of the car. :driving:

70% Which is more then fine with me

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crazy4oldcars 12-04-2016 12:37 PM

Get rid of the Electronic Sound Enhancement, or whatever they call it. Sounds like a combination sport bike and the sound your radio used to make when you put resistor plugs in it. It's annoying.
Kirk B.

smoovep 12-06-2016 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3585240)
bose < base + pioneer HU very easily to do

hey dere mike! :hello:

Have to agree, Pioneer HU w/ backup camera, stock door speakers, some $40 pioneer 3.5" rear speakers and a 6" 150w bazooka tube, won't win any shows but it's a million times better than the bose.

fix the slave cylinder and you're pretty much ready to go.

off topic, never liked the early nismo bumpers but loved the wheels, now I love the new nismo bumpers but hate the wheels.

smoovep 12-06-2016 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louie cat (Post 3585390)
I had a c6 corvette with multiple issues that weren't fixed in later years too. Every car brand has issues, ours are no exception so we either fix it or live with it.

my old s2000 was perfect!

shirokenkami 12-06-2016 04:06 PM

Beat that deadhorse... BEAT IT!!!!!!!!!!!

http://crooksandliars.com/files/prim...dead_horse.jpg

Jayhovah 12-06-2016 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoovep (Post 3586750)
off topic, never liked the early nismo bumpers but loved the wheels, now I love the new nismo bumpers but hate the wheels.

I am opposite. Wish it was more cost effective to convert to the old Nismo front and I love the new Nismo wheels....

I actually like the sport wheels (both pre/post '13) more than the pre-'15 Nismo wheels.


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