Pulled a bone head move (blond moment)

EP370z · 11-26-2016, 07:57 PM

Left my car running to warming up and let battery to charge up. I got out left both keys in center console to adjust the cardboard under car and car shuts off and locks both keys inside. Note to self don't leave both keys in car lol.... Thank God for AAA!!!

P's_Z · 11-26-2016, 08:00 PM

It happens to the best of us

BehindSpace · 11-26-2016, 09:02 PM

battery does not charge at idle and it does not heat up the oil it only heats up the water a little bit so ideling is hurting the engine, you are also poisoning yourself with carbon monoxide, dont do it anymore please

SouthArk370Z · 11-26-2016, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace

battery does not charge at idle

If your charging system is in good shape, there will be some charging going on at idle.

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace

and it does not heat up the oil it only heats up the water a little bit so ideling is hurting the engine,

The whole engine, including the oil, heats up and will eventually get to operating temp.

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace

you are also poisoning yourself with carbon monoxide, dont do it anymore please

Not if your engine is tuned properly. CO emissions are very low and drop to next-to-nothing once the cats warm up. I still wouldn't advise idling in a closed garage but it's not the big problem it was back in The Good Old Days.

kenchan · 11-27-2016, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace

battery does not charge at idle and it does not heat up the oil it only heats up the water a little bit so ideling is hurting the engine, you are also poisoning yourself with carbon monoxide, dont do it anymore please

pls do not interrupt evolution..

MacCool · 11-28-2016, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace

battery does not charge at idle and it does not heat up the oil it only heats up the water a little bit so ideling is hurting the engine, you are also poisoning yourself with carbon monoxide, dont do it anymore please

Additionally, when as the engine cools, condensation forms in the crankcase. If the car isn't going to be driven in the winter, it should just sit with a Battery Tender on it. Intermittently starting it doesn't help anything and causes more harm than good. In fact, it doesn't do any good.

Zoren 370 · 11-28-2016, 08:43 PM

Hmmm I knew it this thread is having some fun going to different direction for having 55 post already? + mine 56!

Are you guys just warming up or getting " Ready to Rumble" let me step back,and get my

Hilla_killa · 11-28-2016, 09:19 PM

Ive been warming up all my cars for tge last 15 years for my comfort! Thats the benefit from starting and warming the car. And dude who gives a **** what these magazines post, you believe everything you read?!? There in a business to write and make money. I love getting in my nice warm car! Never ever in my life has starting mh car hurt anything. My cars all run perfectly! So like others say gtfo this awesome forum. Or maybe post something useful

OldGuyFla · 11-29-2016, 09:31 AM

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Hmmm I knew it this thread is having some fun going to different direction for having 55 post already? + mine 56!

Are you guys just warming up or getting " Ready to Rumble" let me step back,and get my

Save some for me :

ZeeBabar · 11-26-2016, 10:47 PM

It is unnecessary and bad for the car to idle. I start up my car and within 15-20 seconds start to drive. Just don't stomp on the gas, feather it till the oil temp starts to build up.

SouthArk370Z · 11-26-2016, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

It is ... bad for the car to idle. ...

No worse than driving it. It just won't warm up quite as fast.

ZeeBabar · 11-27-2016, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

No worse than driving it. It just won't warm up quite as fast.

"The study found that if people would just knock off unnecessary idling of this sort, then consumers as a whole would save $5.9 billion per year on fuel costs (based on the cost of fuel in 2008). The saved emissions, the study noted, would be "larger than the emissions from the soda ash, aluminum and limestone industries combined."

Course, if you don't care...

SouthArk370Z · 11-27-2016, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

"The study found that if people would just knock off unnecessary idling of this sort, then consumers as a whole would save $5.9 billion per year on fuel costs ...

Wasteful? Yes.
Bad for car? No.

BehindSpace · 11-27-2016, 08:54 AM

it is more worse to cold idle, the oil doesnt get hot enough and is getting contaminated and the car is running rich fuel mixture because it is cold which is contaminating the oil and washing the cilinder walls so the cold oil is not even protecting what it can and then when it trys it gets washed away by the extra fuel, its ok to do it if it makes you happy and you warm to blow the hot air heater on you to make you warm but its not good for the engine, this is fact and cannot be debated

SouthArk370Z · 11-28-2016, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

It's what the other guy was saying till some folks got rude and drove him away. Unlike you, the idiots were repeating that the articles (which said what you summarized) were all wrong.

If you agree with me that it does little or no damage, then why did ya'll say the following (my emphasis)?

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace

battery does not charge at idle and it does not heat up the oil it only heats up the water a little bit so ideling is hurting the engine, you are also poisoning yourself with carbon monoxide, dont do it anymore please

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

It is unnecessary and bad for the car to idle. I start up my car and within 15-20 seconds start to drive. Just don't stomp on the gas, feather it till the oil temp starts to build up.

While I agree that some of the responses were a little much, they are only trying make sure bad info is not spread around.

11-26-2016, 07:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
EP370z Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: East Peoria, IL Posts: 173 Drives: 2014 370z Nismo #158 Rep Power: 9	Pulled a bone head move (blond moment) Left my car running to warming up and let battery to charge up. I got out left both keys in center console to adjust the cardboard under car and car shuts off and locks both keys inside. Note to self don't leave both keys in car lol.... Thank God for AAA!!!

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BehindSpace Base Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 83 Drives: 2014 Evo X MR Rep Power: 86	battery does not charge at idle and it does not heat up the oil it only heats up the water a little bit so ideling is hurting the engine, you are also poisoning yourself with carbon monoxide, dont do it anymore please MacCool, Z-Girl 12 and MagmaRed370z like this.

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BehindSpace Base Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 83 Drives: 2014 Evo X MR Rep Power: 86	it is more worse to cold idle, the oil doesnt get hot enough and is getting contaminated and the car is running rich fuel mixture because it is cold which is contaminating the oil and washing the cilinder walls so the cold oil is not even protecting what it can and then when it trys it gets washed away by the extra fuel, its ok to do it if it makes you happy and you warm to blow the hot air heater on you to make you warm but its not good for the engine, this is fact and cannot be debated