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so much for being american made, i was told that the g8 is made in australlia i think, wtf and we got all these peeps laid off

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Old 12-01-2009, 06:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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so much for being american made, i was told that the g8 is made in australlia i think, wtf and we got all these peeps laid off
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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so much for being american made, i was told that the g8 is made in australlia i think, wtf and we got all these peeps laid off
The G8 is a Holden (Aussie GM) design. Has been long before it was brought here, it's not a new car design.

The woes of the US manufacturing base are not confined to the auto industry, it is a problem many decades old.

Absurd union contracts as well as management failure have pretty much ruined our economy. There can be no sound economy without a manufacturing base. We can't survive on the service sector alone. We cannot survive if everyone is working at Wal Mart. Our politicians are inept and do not ave the skills, the balls or the intelligence to fix the problem.
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The G8 is a Holden (Aussie GM) design. Has been long before it was brought here, it's not a new car design.
The Camaro is based on the same (Zeta) platform as the G8/Holden Commodore. In fact, the Camaro was developed by Holden in Australia and the exterior design is by a Korean guy. How's that for an "American Muscle car"
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The way manufacturing works I seriously doubt anything made today is from any one place. Designs are often done in one country, bits and pieces in another, raw materials from another and the actual assembly in another.

That doesn't bother me one bit as long as I get a quality product.
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I saw the episode of Mega Factories, and they covered...the Camaro...which is made entirely in Canada.

I sincerely hope that the next one of us that has to deal with some douchbaggery from the Camaro crowd that says something like :buy american: help them understand that saying generally means United States of America, and not North / Central / South American, and kindly inform them that their car is made in a foreign country as well.

Just some food for thought...
The whole 'Buy American' policy is so retarded I can't begin to understand the logic.

If everyone only bought goods produced in their own country, much of America would quickly be unemployed.

If Americans only buy American goods why should any other country purchase goods made in America?

Anyhow, fortunately most people disregard this policty and buy goods based on quality, pricing and performance, as opposed to the country the goods are produced.

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The whole 'Buy American' policy is so retarded I can't begin to understand the logic.

If everyone only bought goods produced in their own country, much of America would quickly be unemployed.

If Americans only buy American goods why should any other country purchase goods made in America?

Anyhow, fortunately most people disregard this policty and buy goods based on quality, pricing and performance, as opposed to the country the goods are produced.
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The whole 'Buy American' policy is so retarded I can't begin to understand the logic.

If everyone only bought goods produced in their own country, much of America would quickly be unemployed.

If Americans only buy American goods why should any other country purchase goods made in America?

Anyhow, fortunately most people disregard this policty and buy goods based on quality, pricing and performance, as opposed to the country the goods are produced.
I agree with you. What you are saying is right. It is a global economy these days and it has always been that way since the States decided to buy and sell globally all made possibly by container ships, freight trains, and cargo planes. Once the States stops doing business with the rest of the world then the money flow stops dead in it's tracks.

Also Canada is the States closest ally right now. We need Canada just as much as Canada needs us. It's not a safe/secure world out there. If we band together with Canada we will be a whole lot stronger and unconquerable then if we were both to have just kept to ourselves as isolationists.

Lastly for those who don't like Canada. My suggestion to them is to at least visit and experience the place first if you haven't yet. You would be very impressed when you see Banff, Vancouver, Toronto, the W.Edmonton Mall, and places like Quebec and Nova Scotia. It's actually quite friendly, warm and inviting.
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The whole 'Buy American' policy is so retarded I can't begin to understand the logic.

If everyone only bought goods produced in their own country, much of America would quickly be unemployed.

If Americans only buy American goods why should any other country purchase goods made in America?

Anyhow, fortunately most people disregard this policty and buy goods based on quality, pricing and performance, as opposed to the country the goods are produced.
It stems from the idea that the US used to be a leading manufacturer...and this slogan was formed when there were closing of US Steel mills and other manufacturing businesses moving outside the USA, mostly due to EPA regulations making it cost more to do business here, and they couldn't compete...but the idea was to spend money, even if it is more, on US made items to keep our economy strong and keep the manufacturing companies that made WWII winable, here. (Imagine if we had WWII next week - we can barely keep up with the "war" in Iraq (and now Afganistan) we have now...)

To try and do that today is next to impossible, as most of the items we buy have parts that come from outside the USA, even if they are assembled here.

Also, most people purchase based on perceived value, ie, bang-for-buck.

The Z is a great example of it - in terms of performance cars, it's got the best bang-for-buck of any other performance car out there.
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So what are you saying? That Canada is another country? Dude.... they're the 51st state.
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So what are you saying? That Canada is another country? Dude.... they're the 51st state.
that has national health care .....
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that has national health care .....
and takes weeks to get MRI's or cat scans and shyt..... lived there, done that, know about all the BS behind national health care. they still pay for it through income tax, and you have to pay for the health card out of pocket.

Also.... they have a quota system. When I lived there, a doc had to see so many patients a year and they all made the same money. Boom! Meet your quote 3 months before the year is over? You get yourself a nice vacation and tell your patients 'buh-bye.' See you next year!
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and takes weeks to get MRI's or cat scans and shyt..... lived there, done that, know about all the BS behind national health care. they still pay for it through income tax, and you have to pay for the health card out of pocket.

Also.... they have a quota system. When I lived there, a doc had to see so many patients a year and they all made the same money. Boom! Meet your quote 3 months before the year is over? You get yourself a nice vacation and tell your patients 'buh-bye.' See you next year!
Not quite.... doctors bill out per client to Medicare. They don't all make the same money. Were you in Canada or Russia?

Regardless of your finacial well being, race, colour or creed all Canadian's are entitled to equal care. That means the single mom with three kids can still get the medical care she requires. That's while paying roughly the same income taxes as her equivalent in the USA. So in fact in the USA YOU are paying out of pocket. Granted the wealthy can get quicker medical care in the USA than your average Canadian who may be required to wait for non-emergency care.
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and takes weeks to get MRI's or cat scans and shyt..... lived there, done that, know about all the BS behind national health care. they still pay for it through income tax, and you have to pay for the health card out of pocket.

Also.... they have a quota system. When I lived there, a doc had to see so many patients a year and they all made the same money. Boom! Meet your quote 3 months before the year is over? You get yourself a nice vacation and tell your patients 'buh-bye.' See you next year!
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and takes weeks to get MRI's or cat scans and shyt..... lived there, done that, know about all the BS behind national health care. they still pay for it through income tax, and you have to pay for the health card out of pocket.

Also.... they have a quota system. When I lived there, a doc had to see so many patients a year and they all made the same money. Boom! Meet your quote 3 months before the year is over? You get yourself a nice vacation and tell your patients 'buh-bye.' See you next year!
Let me see how the US system works. I have a serious medical condition but my particular health insurance provider does not agree with the diagnosis and hence does not honour my claim. Result? Increased profits at the expense of my good health! Not true you say? Well, neither are your observations about Canadian medicare. But I will give you a fact: all +30M Canadians can walk into any emergency room, at anytime, anywhere in Canada and get to see a doctor regardless of how serious their condition is. Yes, our taxes pay for this burden but I don't have a problem with that. Neither do the citizens of most western European countries and their free health care. Sorry for going off topic.
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So the bottom line is....

Cars are made everywhere. Whatev's.. regardless, not too much can be done (without proper leadership getting off of their a$$'s) about the state of our countries manufacturing market.

I vote we all get Vespa's and hang out in poetry coffee houses.
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