That's why I bought a CPO Z...already used the warranty to address CSC & get a new tranny after 5th gear began to grind.

I do agree that buying a used Z w/o a warranty is risky business.

Yeah dude, you're a clown.

If you trust Carfax and/or private sellers ALL of the time, then everything I read on the internet just HAS to be true ALL of the time I guess. LOL

And lazy? Really? Someone who's responsible and works hard for their money so they can support their family, buy nice things for their family and still have money left over to buy a nice new car and nice new expensive parts for it, I wouldn't exactly call lazy.

Like an artist, I like starting with a new blank canvas, and buying a brand new car is just that. I don't have to go and undo a bunch of crap I don't want on that used car, and possibly find out that someone somewhere along the line cut corners and did a hack job on everything, possibly even making the car unsafe. The heck with that noise.

You go ahead and buy your used cars and well... I won't. Because quite frankly, I don't give a rat's a$$ about depreciation and resale value.

And next time, think ahead before shooting off your mouth about people being lazy. I could just as easily say that you're just cheap and lazy and want to buy an already modded car for a song. Mind you, modded to someone else's taste. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

Must be nice to have a Z and a STI.. lucky bastard :shakes head:

^ look who is talking lol

Your whole premise is that used, clean Z's don't exist. This is an eight year old car. They exist. For some reason you think every used car is a timebomb about to explode or something.

I saved about ten grand off the cost of an equivalent new model, and it has no "hack job mods" to undo. And now I can use that money on coilovers, suspension, and wheels. And my car is still under warranty.

But hey, in your own words, you don't care about depreciation or resale value, so hey, go ahead and justify your purchase. If you can sleep at night, cool!
awesome!
i'm clapping right now

and still laughing at you

Chopz position is pretty extreme, he apparently thinks every used car is a fast and furious castoff.

Its a ridiculous assumption, so i'm gonna treat it like one.

AND! this whole discussion is about STi's and Nismo Z's. My point is that NEITHER car is worth their MSRP, for the reason that clean used examples are available. I don't know how i could have spelled it out more clearly except ChopZ wants to take a pitchfork and light some torches to the used car market.

HE can do whatever he wants with his money that makes him feel good. My point is the same: it's hard to justify $40k for an Sti or Nismo Z.

LOL when has the Nismo ever broken 5 seconds, 0-60?

Three different tests, manual and auto, all Nismo, all reaching 105-106mph, all doing 0-60 in 5 seconds or less. the 1/4 time is out of the norm (13.3-13.6 avg), but overall, the numbers are fine.

0-60 in 5.0 13.5 @106.6mph
Lotus Exige S 260 Sport vs. Nissan Nismo 370Z

0-60 in 4.9 13.5 @105.4mph
2015 Nissan 370Z Nismo First Test - Motor Trend

0-60 in 4.9 13.6@106mph
2015 Nissan 370Z NISMO Automatic – Review – Car and Driver

Stopped watching a few seconds in!



Also the new sti is 2.5??? Why's the WRX 2.0? They always been equal besides the turbo and IC layout.

honestly in real world, i dont think i can ever get the 5sec mark on my 370Z. even with the RE11's i cant get the level of grip i need. and the clutch feel, throttle lag.. i just cant get the level of control i need.

the STI on the otherhand, great grip ofcourse, consistent clutch, fast throttle response (cobb stage1). easy to do fast launches.

I lurked on NASIOC a bit

The WRX engine is the new F20f, direct injection turbo. Bc it's new, folks speculated Subaru wasn't ready to push to 300 hp

So they used the decade old 2.5 in the sti

That makes no sense. Subaru has been pushing 2.0 engines to 300hp in Japan for YEARS. The JDM STi always had a 2.0L turbo.

The J spec STI has the new FA 2.0
The US spec STI has the old 2.5 FJ series. I have no idea why though.

It's all personal preference man. To some people, the extra money is worth knowing how the car was treated it's WHOLE life. I buy new, but I'm anal when it comes to my car. I personally don't trust people selling their cars or carfax. I would consider buying a used civic or some sort of economy car, but we're talking about sports/performance cars. It's definitely more likely that Z, WRX, EVO, etc. was beaten up by it's previous owner than a civic or corolla. I'd rather not get someone's sloppy seconds...

On topic: These two first stated that the 370z has a 3.5 liter and then thought the "370" stands for 370 hp? Come on :facepalm:

Wait is that right? Is the JDM sti using the new direct injection F series?

I don't think that's right. It should be the same EJ20 that all jdm stis have been using