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Originally Posted by RCZ Higher octanage will not hurt your motor...it will not make more power... its just going to be safer. If you are driving on the street, you

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Old 12-01-2009, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Higher octanage will not hurt your motor...it will not make more power... its just going to be safer. If you are driving on the street, you are wasting money. I run 50/50 mix of 93oct and 98oct (at least) on the track for that extra safety margin...specially on our motor that likes to run hot..
What mods have you made for the need of the "extra safe margin"?
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To the OP's origianl question: Nothing will happen. Although I can't see anyone "accidentally" putting something other than what they intend to into the tank.

On a side note, I have 5 gallons of 100 octane oxygenated fuel in my car right now (topped up with pump 91) and it seems to be running just fine.
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What mods have you made for the need of the "extra safe margin"?
Anytime you are running at the track your engine experiences more stress than usual. More stress and higher revs over an extended period of time lead to higher cylinder temps. Sometimes hotspots are created within the cylinders which can ignite the fuel mix pre-tdc. , aka detonation, pinging, knock, whatever you want to call it.

I have intakes and a full exhaust, which can lean the car out a little bit. I am tuned so I know where my AFR is so that's not that big of an issue. Either way its always safer to run higher octane when your are putting your engine under that much load. This engine normally runs really hot, I would even think about running some meth or WI later on for extended sessions. Specially if I am going to eventually run a supercharger.

Its funny, but I think you were expecting me to not know what Im talking about. Knocking isnt only caused by higher compression and boost like you said. If you are near the knock threshold because of your AF mix, simply filling a bad batch of gas can cause knocking. Bad batch of gas being something with lower octanage than what is advertised. It happens...

Did I mention I live in Florida and sometimes I track the car in 100+ degree weather.
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Anytime you are running at the track your engine experiences more stress than usual. More stress and higher revs over an extended period of time lead to higher cylinder temps. Sometimes hotspots are created within the cylinders which can ignite the fuel mix pre-tdc. , aka detonation, pinging, knock, whatever you want to call it.

I have intakes and a full exhaust, which can lean the car out a little bit. I am tuned so I know where my AFR is so that's not that big of an issue. Either way its always safer to run higher octane when your are putting your engine under that much load. This engine normally runs really hot, I would even think about running some meth or WI later on for extended sessions. Specially if I am going to eventually run a supercharger.

Its funny, but I think you were expecting me to not know what Im talking about. Knocking isnt only caused by higher compression and boost like you said. If you are near the knock threshold because of your AF mix, simply filling a bad batch of gas can cause knocking. Bad batch of gas being something with lower octanage than what is advertised. It happens...

Did I mention I live in Florida and sometimes I track the car in 100+ degree weather.
Whats funny is that you believe I was questioning you because" I didn't think you new what you were talking about"?Not at all because I noticed you tracked your car and actually assumed you had the knowledge but was curious as to any mods you may have had?
As for a bad batch of gas possibly with a lower octane rating causing detnation is quite obvious but thanks for informing me that you was aware of the that.
As for me saying that detonation is caused by high compression and boost it is a fact! If you read correctly you will now see that I never used the word "only" in that statement to simplify matters for readers not familiar with the science involved.I also stated there is a science to this but didn't get in dept because I wanted to make it very simple to be understood without to many variables and confusing for any readers that want to learn.
So thanks for informing me that you understand what I'am talking about.Its always good to know that someone picked up on some good info.
My post was to try and help understand the needs for race fuel with simplicity for anyone that doesn't understand.
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