I have enough for one but not the other...

shirokenkami · 10-31-2016, 08:07 PM

So I need to know which one is more prudent in getting done?

The modified CSC or the Oil Cooler? I'm going with Z1 for either of them and will be taking the Z to them to install the CSC when it's time(tried to get them to do it this week before I leave for New York but they're booked up

so I guess I'm gonna do one or the other when I get back. So which one do you gents believe is more detrimental?

My thoughts were the CSC since it can go out at any time and the oil temp can be maintained by just staying out of the throttle or letting her cool down.

Lemme know what you lot think!

bendchef · 10-31-2016, 08:13 PM

I've done both. Actually changed out the Csc and Master cylinder before utter failure. Use Motul 600 when you do it. Caveat on the Oil Cooler....with a 25 row it can take some time to get to 180 on your oil temp. Made a huge difference on hot days this summer. Completely solved any overheating issues. But as it gets cooler it can take awhile to get or even stay at temp if you are driving mellow. Free advice and its worth just that. CSC first aI would advise. But you will need both eventually.

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solidus · 10-31-2016, 08:17 PM

Just get a thermostatic filter adapter , it won't open til 180 and it solves that problem.

Chuck33079 · 10-31-2016, 08:20 PM

Farm out the csc first and then diy the oil cooler.

bendchef · 10-31-2016, 08:23 PM

Got it. It works. Maybe just the higher volume of oil = 1 quart. When I installed the plate and cooler there was no defining way of attaching the hoses. I have wondered if I have it reversed and the themostat is not even in play and it runs in an open loop. There was no info I could find and the info I did find said the hise attachment did not matter and was not defined. It is a good problem to have...might check that out the next time she gets lifted off the ground.

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bendchef · 10-31-2016, 08:26 PM

I think the CSC and master cyl. install was $700 plus at Nissan dealership. Oil cooler is definitely a diy afternoon project.

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shirokenkami · 10-31-2016, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bendchef

I've done both. Actually changed out the Csc and Master cylinder before utter failure. Use Motul 600 when you do it. Caveat on the Oil Cooler....with a 25 row it can take some time to get to 180 on your oil temp. Made a huge difference on hot days this summer. Completely solved any overheating issues. But as it gets cooler it can take awhile to get or even stay at temp if you are driving mellow. Free advice and its worth just that. CSC first aI would advise. But you will need both eventually.

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I planned on doing both somewhere along down the line but didn't know which one should be done first. Logic dictated that I do the CSC first but a fellow who is about an hour from me was telling me that I should do the Cooler first so it kind of caused some confusion.

bendchef · 10-31-2016, 08:28 PM

You can drive the car as is without the cooler for now. Slave goes and you have a gorgeous yard ornament that will start. Hmmm..

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bendchef · 10-31-2016, 08:29 PM

Maybe not even start actually due to the failure. Still looks good though

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shirokenkami · 10-31-2016, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bendchef

I think the CSC and master cyl. install was $700 plus at Nissan dealership. Oil cooler is definitely a diy afternoon project.

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$700 is what Z1 quoted me for the labor.

Out of curiosity I called my local Nissan dealer and they wanted $1200 for labor alone. It took all I had not to horse laugh him.

As far as the Oil Cooler goes, a guy at my work(I work at a Stealership, lol

) is going to do it for $50 one evening when we've got down time.

shirokenkami · 10-31-2016, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bendchef

You can drive the car as is without the cooler for now. Slave goes and you have a gorgeous yard ornament that will start. Hmmm..

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Yeah, that was my thought process too. It didn't make much sense to me either but I thought maybe he knew something that I did not. Apparently I was mistaken about his sense of priority.

bendchef · 10-31-2016, 08:34 PM

Thats a fair deal from the guy at work. A small price to pay for minimal stress. 1200 seems very high or I went to a cool dealership. It was supposed to be covered under my extended warranty but of course it wasn't.

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Zbrah · 10-31-2016, 09:33 PM

Keep in mind most stealerships won't touch aftermarket parts so likely the quote they gave you is to swap out the pos csc for another pos Nissan csc. Go to Z1 and have it done right with their elimination kit, or take a look at the Zspeed option imo. An oil cooler is another necessity but it won't leave you stranded in the middle of no where unlike when you csc goes out.

bendchef · 10-31-2016, 09:35 PM

Thats good advice. I installed the Z Speed based on alot of other good advice from forum members.

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Ventruck · 10-31-2016, 10:13 PM

CSC.

you have less control of that failing vs. just driving more conservatively to deal with heat. It surprises me that some people will fork over more for an exhaust first.

But at the same time, you ideally should fork for the clutch and flywheel since the transmission has to be dropped and you're already spending on CSC and CMC. Helps with the response and vague clutch feel of the car. You shouldn't be charged any more for the labor either.

10-31-2016, 08:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
shirokenkami Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Middle Tennessee Age: 38 Posts: 232 Drives: 2013 Z Tour Spt 6mt Rep Power: 23	I have enough for one but not the other... So I need to know which one is more prudent in getting done? The modified CSC or the Oil Cooler? I'm going with Z1 for either of them and will be taking the Z to them to install the CSC when it's time(tried to get them to do it this week before I leave for New York but they're booked up so I guess I'm gonna do one or the other when I get back. So which one do you gents believe is more detrimental? My thoughts were the CSC since it can go out at any time and the oil temp can be maintained by just staying out of the throttle or letting her cool down. Lemme know what you lot think! __________________ “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”- Edmund Burke

10-31-2016, 08:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
bendchef Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370z Touring MT Rep Power: 9	I've done both. Actually changed out the Csc and Master cylinder before utter failure. Use Motul 600 when you do it. Caveat on the Oil Cooler....with a 25 row it can take some time to get to 180 on your oil temp. Made a huge difference on hot days this summer. Completely solved any overheating issues. But as it gets cooler it can take awhile to get or even stay at temp if you are driving mellow. Free advice and its worth just that. CSC first aI would advise. But you will need both eventually. Sent from my LGMS550 using Tapatalk wideglideleon likes this. __________________ 2009 Solid Red Touring $ Stillen Front Fascia $ Berk Hfc's $ Nismo S Tune Free Flow Exhaust $ Z1 Ported Intake Plenum $ Stillen Gen 3 Intake $ Setrab 25 Row Oil Cooler $ Uprev Tune $ Sprint Booster Throttle Enhancer $ RJM Performance Clutch Pedal $ Upgraded Z Speed Clutch Slave Cylinder $ Torque Pro OBD2

10-31-2016, 08:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Farm out the csc first and then diy the oil cooler. gomer_110 likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

10-31-2016, 08:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
bendchef Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370z Touring MT Rep Power: 9	Got it. It works. Maybe just the higher volume of oil = 1 quart. When I installed the plate and cooler there was no defining way of attaching the hoses. I have wondered if I have it reversed and the themostat is not even in play and it runs in an open loop. There was no info I could find and the info I did find said the hise attachment did not matter and was not defined. It is a good problem to have...might check that out the next time she gets lifted off the ground. Sent from my LGMS550 using Tapatalk __________________ 2009 Solid Red Touring $ Stillen Front Fascia $ Berk Hfc's $ Nismo S Tune Free Flow Exhaust $ Z1 Ported Intake Plenum $ Stillen Gen 3 Intake $ Setrab 25 Row Oil Cooler $ Uprev Tune $ Sprint Booster Throttle Enhancer $ RJM Performance Clutch Pedal $ Upgraded Z Speed Clutch Slave Cylinder $ Torque Pro OBD2

10-31-2016, 08:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
bendchef Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370z Touring MT Rep Power: 9	I think the CSC and master cyl. install was $700 plus at Nissan dealership. Oil cooler is definitely a diy afternoon project. Sent from my LGMS550 using Tapatalk __________________ 2009 Solid Red Touring $ Stillen Front Fascia $ Berk Hfc's $ Nismo S Tune Free Flow Exhaust $ Z1 Ported Intake Plenum $ Stillen Gen 3 Intake $ Setrab 25 Row Oil Cooler $ Uprev Tune $ Sprint Booster Throttle Enhancer $ RJM Performance Clutch Pedal $ Upgraded Z Speed Clutch Slave Cylinder $ Torque Pro OBD2

10-31-2016, 08:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
solidus Track Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 694 Drives: 15' Nismo Black 6MT Rep Power: 10081	Just get a thermostatic filter adapter , it won't open til 180 and it solves that problem.

10-31-2016, 08:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
bendchef Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370z Touring MT Rep Power: 9	You can drive the car as is without the cooler for now. Slave goes and you have a gorgeous yard ornament that will start. Hmmm.. Sent from my LGMS550 using Tapatalk __________________ 2009 Solid Red Touring $ Stillen Front Fascia $ Berk Hfc's $ Nismo S Tune Free Flow Exhaust $ Z1 Ported Intake Plenum $ Stillen Gen 3 Intake $ Setrab 25 Row Oil Cooler $ Uprev Tune $ Sprint Booster Throttle Enhancer $ RJM Performance Clutch Pedal $ Upgraded Z Speed Clutch Slave Cylinder $ Torque Pro OBD2

10-31-2016, 08:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
bendchef Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370z Touring MT Rep Power: 9	Maybe not even start actually due to the failure. Still looks good though Sent from my LGMS550 using Tapatalk __________________ 2009 Solid Red Touring $ Stillen Front Fascia $ Berk Hfc's $ Nismo S Tune Free Flow Exhaust $ Z1 Ported Intake Plenum $ Stillen Gen 3 Intake $ Setrab 25 Row Oil Cooler $ Uprev Tune $ Sprint Booster Throttle Enhancer $ RJM Performance Clutch Pedal $ Upgraded Z Speed Clutch Slave Cylinder $ Torque Pro OBD2

10-31-2016, 08:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
bendchef Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370z Touring MT Rep Power: 9	Thats a fair deal from the guy at work. A small price to pay for minimal stress. 1200 seems very high or I went to a cool dealership. It was supposed to be covered under my extended warranty but of course it wasn't. Sent from my LGMS550 using Tapatalk __________________ 2009 Solid Red Touring $ Stillen Front Fascia $ Berk Hfc's $ Nismo S Tune Free Flow Exhaust $ Z1 Ported Intake Plenum $ Stillen Gen 3 Intake $ Setrab 25 Row Oil Cooler $ Uprev Tune $ Sprint Booster Throttle Enhancer $ RJM Performance Clutch Pedal $ Upgraded Z Speed Clutch Slave Cylinder $ Torque Pro OBD2

10-31-2016, 09:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5452	Keep in mind most stealerships won't touch aftermarket parts so likely the quote they gave you is to swap out the pos csc for another pos Nissan csc. Go to Z1 and have it done right with their elimination kit, or take a look at the Zspeed option imo. An oil cooler is another necessity but it won't leave you stranded in the middle of no where unlike when you csc goes out. __________________

10-31-2016, 09:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
bendchef Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370z Touring MT Rep Power: 9	Thats good advice. I installed the Z Speed based on alot of other good advice from forum members. Sent from my LGMS550 using Tapatalk __________________ 2009 Solid Red Touring $ Stillen Front Fascia $ Berk Hfc's $ Nismo S Tune Free Flow Exhaust $ Z1 Ported Intake Plenum $ Stillen Gen 3 Intake $ Setrab 25 Row Oil Cooler $ Uprev Tune $ Sprint Booster Throttle Enhancer $ RJM Performance Clutch Pedal $ Upgraded Z Speed Clutch Slave Cylinder $ Torque Pro OBD2

10-31-2016, 10:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ventruck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: California Posts: 785 Drives: '13 Sport+Touring M6 Rep Power: 22898	CSC. you have less control of that failing vs. just driving more conservatively to deal with heat. It surprises me that some people will fork over more for an exhaust first. But at the same time, you ideally should fork for the clutch and flywheel since the transmission has to be dropped and you're already spending on CSC and CMC. Helps with the response and vague clutch feel of the car. You shouldn't be charged any more for the labor either.