Is the market for the Zs really soft right now?

madeinjapan

kids these dayz dont drive stick

DavidZ370

The AT is a great trans in the Z cars, however without sounding like an ******* what these guys are saying is that it would be rather easier to sell the 6 speed


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axmea?

The new and used market for Z's has been soft for a long, long time. It was never strong to begin with. It is a niche market and the audience dwindles further because it cannot provide what the market wants --- usable rear seats and power (vs its so called American counterparts) and this is one reason why you see the new turbo motor on the the Q. There is a usable rear seat. Nissan never intended to keep up with competitor's upping their game. If they did, we would have seen various upgrades to keep our beeks wet. Nissan got themselves in a tough spot because the car was also priced too high to begin with and there was no indication that sales would go up with increased power. Adding a turbo then would have increased the cost to the consumer potentially hurting sales. There was no money to be made. Ford, Chevy, and Dodge figured it out. Get a big motor and slap it in a car, put decent brakes and suspension and oh, don't forget the rear seats.

For those who like the Z because of it's rarity, you can thank Nissan for that.

In a nutshell why it is soft --- priced too high, never kept up with it's competitors, not enough power, and no usable rear seat (it's just not practical).

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370bluez

Yea I scheduled to get my **** chopped off after the first drive in the automatic Z that is faster and more fuel efficient than the manual counterpart.

Makes perfect sense.

Chuck33079

Plus, it's an old car now. It's more or less identical to the same car you could have driven home in late 2008.

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madeinjapan

when zilvia can afford them the market will explode

ChopsZ

You really have no clue.

For one, it's only faster in a drag race, in a bone stock Z. Who gives a rats a$$ about drag racing in a Z? Almost no one.

Second, who cares if it's more fuel efficient? Nissan states 18/26 MT6, 19/26 AT7. Wow, one whole mile extra in city. That's going to make a major difference.

Also, IF you're really concerned about fuel efficiency in a sports car, you can easily hypermile with a MT, not so much in an AT. And just by chance, I've been doing a little hypermiling this past week in town, averaging 31 mpg for roughly 100 miles... In town! 31 mpg! And I wasn't even going crazy with it. I was just playing around some with it. Try that with the AT.


But enough of this silly bickering. Since you totally missed my point in my first post, I'll spell it out for you...

Other than possibly women who would gladly go for a blue auto Z, the two types of guys who would be looking for a used Z are either guys who are married and want to get a weekend sports car for a great price, or those younger high school/college guys who are on a tight budget but want to get a Z at a great price. Both of these types of guys are most likely hunting for a MT in their sports car, not an auto.

My argument was never about one transmission being better than the other.

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370bluez

I don't care about your point. You talked some **** about hair dressers or whatever. You're ragging on the car because it is automatic, I get that it doesn't have a knob to slob, so does everyone else.

They make automatics for a reason and 50% of them are autos, there is no performance detriment from it and only benefits, in a SPORTS car.

This is not an automatic vs manual thread.

madeinjapan

EP370z

Z car is for 2 different generations. One being tuners. But with them being young. Insurance would be sky high. Second is people older with out kids. They can afford insurance and payment. They may also know little about the history of the z or wanted a Datsun z back in there youth?

But yes a stick shift for older generation is a must. Tuners generation might want the auto.

axmea?

How did you come up with this analysis? Tuners who go for automatics and have to pay high insurance rates and older generation without kids who go for manual and can afford insurance? ********* **** ***** *****

Edited to be nice. Property value in this neighborhood has gone down a little. LOL.

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370bluez

If anyone wanted real talk, my analysis is as follows.

No one that can "afford" a 20k+ used Z is going to buy one and will get a Porsche/m3/4/Corvette instead, especially from a private party. Or a new C7 Corvette on 60 month stretch pay considering you can get one for less than 50k now.

The Z is stuck in a shitty market place at the moment, it is not cheap enough to be ragged on by high schoolers, and it is not expensive enough for those that have the money to buy it, because they will go other directions.

This has nothing to do with the transmission and or color of the car, those are personal preferences.

Jimbo370

I like it because of the history. It is different from other cars and the used 370z are getting below 20k. Its still a looker. If you want a fast car buy 1 and quit wasting your money with upgrades, just go buy a corvette.

madeinjapan

its for the people in the middle of what you just stated (18-22k second car range)

also i had a 350 back in the dayz so now i wanted a 370

littlejuanito

Why has the Honda S2000 been able to keep it's resell value tho? and its much older than the Z. I don't get it

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