Is the market for the Zs really soft right now?

Magic Bus · 10-14-2016, 05:27 PM

370bluez, To answer your initial question, I do believe the market is soft for Z's now. But not just Z's, 2 door sports cars are in a niche market, and I believe this market has gotten smaller over the years. I follow a Porsche forum, and talk about taking a hit. Cayman owners have it much worse than us Z owners.

I have a feeling that your color, while very nice, may not be appreciated by a large percent of the buyers out there. Also keep in mind, the added features/options that you have in your car which you paid for, depreciates a lot and may not mean much to a buyer in the secondary market.

I am looking to sell my Z next year, so I've been checking Craigslist occasionally, and it doesn't look favorable here either. Good luck on your sale.

mikewo6o · 10-14-2016, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 370bluez

Your offers are 3-4K higher than what I'm getting ... and you have a lower spec car ... interesting

I agree. I was surprised at the two offers I received. I was expecting something in the high teens. Also, in both cases, the Honda and Buick/GMC dealers were both giving decent discounts on the two vehicles we were interested in. In the end, we decided to hang on to the Z for another year.

BehindSpace · 10-15-2016, 07:16 AM

The market for Zs is always soft. The higher the trim the worse the depreciation too. Chop 10,000 off a nismo the moment you drive it off the lot.

ChopsZ · 10-15-2016, 11:20 AM

The fact that it's an AT7 doesn't help matters any. I too am old school and firmly believe that a sports car should only come with a MT. The closest thing I'd ever get to an AT is a sequential transmission, and that's still a manual. Flappy paddle autos don't count either.

The blue color, I could take it or leave it. Maybe if I were younger, I'd be more willing to buy blue.

At any rate, good luck on selling it.

Ventruck · 10-15-2016, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ViCiouS

You can get 2016s with sport/touring/tech for $27 -28k with under 10k miles. Personally I'd pay 2-3k more for a 4 year newer car.

What the ****. I need to move to the East coast.

I'm like OP in California. Paid that much for a 2013 S&T @ 30k miles earlier this year, albeit from a used dealer. I couldn't find any better deal in sight at the time.

crazy4oldcars · 10-15-2016, 05:04 PM

This one's an AT7, but that seems to be all that's being offered around here:
Cars for Sale: Used 2016 Nissan 370Z in Coupe, McKinney TX: 75069 Details - Coupe - Autotrader

Mr Chow · 10-15-2016, 07:06 PM

OP I'm in CA. April 2016 I purchased a 2014 touring, sport, 7AT, 8,100 mi. One owner, dealer maintained and certified (couple oil changes) $27,750 plus tax title etc. your asking price seems fair. I flew from the Bay Area to SoCal and drove back.

DavidZ370 · 10-15-2016, 08:37 PM

Welcome to the world of owning a nissan, as much as i love these cars and still do ) this was my only gripe, the value of these cars goes to **** with a few exceptions such as the (240z HR 350 r34) now i know that buying a car is by no means an investment but darn man **** happens and once you are off the lot these things go for pennies on the dollar. Good luck with the sale man its a beauty of a car.

enkei2k · 10-16-2016, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ViCiouS

You can get 2016s with sport/touring/tech for $27 -28k with under 10k miles. Personally I'd pay 2-3k more for a 4 year newer car.

salvage titled maybe...

370bluez · 10-16-2016, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ

The fact that it's an AT7 doesn't help matters any. I too am old school and firmly believe that a sports car should only come with a MT. The closest thing I'd ever get to an AT is a sequential transmission, and that's still a manual. Flappy paddle autos don't count either.

The blue color, I could take it or leave it. Maybe if I were younger, I'd be more willing to buy blue.

At any rate, good luck on selling it.

Right transmission choice is a preference if everyone wanted a manual they wouldn't sell automatics. It is what it is, this is like saying my dog got run over by a red car therefore every red car is worth nothing to me

370bluez · 10-16-2016, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Chow

OP I'm in CA. April 2016 I purchased a 2014 touring, sport, 7AT, 8,100 mi. One owner, dealer maintained and certified (couple oil changes) $27,750 plus tax title etc. your asking price seems fair. I flew from the Bay Area to SoCal and drove back.

Dang that's 4K more than I'm asking ... but yea seems about right

ChopsZ · 10-16-2016, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 370bluez

Right transmission choice is a preference if everyone wanted a manual they wouldn't sell automatics. It is what it is, this is like saying my dog got run over by a red car therefore every red car is worth nothing to me

Hey, I'm just saying... For an enthusiast, they're going for a manual, not an auto. Your average American Joe-Schmoe on the other hand, well you know... Whether that means anything to you or not, then so be it.

It's blue and an auto... Maybe try parking it in front of a nail or hair salon. You might have better luck in those locations.

Larso1 · 10-16-2016, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ

Hey, I'm just saying... For an enthusiast, they're going for a manual, not an auto. Your average American Joe-Schmoe on the other hand, well you know... Whether that means anything to you or not, then so be it.

It's blue and an auto... Maybe try parking it in front of a nail or hair salon. You might have better luck in those locations.

I think this is pretty much the truth in most cases. My feeling is, again in most cases, those who drive an auto trans sports car were never taught by their dad how to drive a stick. There, I said it. Case in point: my SIL. My son, on the other hand, always insists on a manual in his vehicles. Although maybe that will change when he gets married, for practical reasons, the wife will no doubt insist that her car has an auto.�� But otherwise why would you drive a "true sports car" with an auto trans if a manual was offered? I mean, cars like the Z06 and Viper are only offered with a manual. (Only newer super cars like Ferrari, Lambo, and Porsche notwithstanding since they may not offer a manual in certain models)

Dirk McGurck · 10-17-2016, 07:17 AM

We should get FPEnvy in here to add to this discussion.

mikewo6o · 10-17-2016, 09:20 AM

This thread seems to have degenerated into a 6MT vs 7AT.

10-15-2016, 11:20 AM	#19 (permalink)
ChopsZ Track Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central Florida Age: 49 Posts: 965 Drives: 2016 370Z GM 6MT Rep Power: 2301	The fact that it's an AT7 doesn't help matters any. I too am old school and firmly believe that a sports car should only come with a MT. The closest thing I'd ever get to an AT is a sequential transmission, and that's still a manual. Flappy paddle autos don't count either. The blue color, I could take it or leave it. Maybe if I were younger, I'd be more willing to buy blue. At any rate, good luck on selling it. __________________ She's For Sale! PERFORMANCE: Aero Workz \| Akebono \| BC Racing \| EcuTek \| HKS \| MaxBore \| Motordyne \| Nismo \| RJM \| SPL \| StopTech \| Z1 AUDIO: Arc Audio \| Bazooka \| Helix \| Pioneer \| Stereo Integrity

10-17-2016, 07:17 AM	#29 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 21	We should get FPEnvy in here to add to this discussion. mishuko likes this. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

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10-14-2016, 05:27 PM	#16 (permalink)
Magic Bus A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,427 Drives: 17 6MT M2 Rep Power: 18754	370bluez, To answer your initial question, I do believe the market is soft for Z's now. But not just Z's, 2 door sports cars are in a niche market, and I believe this market has gotten smaller over the years. I follow a Porsche forum, and talk about taking a hit. Cayman owners have it much worse than us Z owners. I have a feeling that your color, while very nice, may not be appreciated by a large percent of the buyers out there. Also keep in mind, the added features/options that you have in your car which you paid for, depreciates a lot and may not mean much to a buyer in the secondary market. I am looking to sell my Z next year, so I've been checking Craigslist occasionally, and it doesn't look favorable here either. Good luck on your sale.

10-15-2016, 07:16 AM	#18 (permalink)
BehindSpace Base Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 83 Drives: 2014 Evo X MR Rep Power: 85	The market for Zs is always soft. The higher the trim the worse the depreciation too. Chop 10,000 off a nismo the moment you drive it off the lot.

10-15-2016, 05:04 PM	#21 (permalink)
crazy4oldcars Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: SE Texas Posts: 448 Drives: '16 Nismo Tech Rep Power: 28413	This one's an AT7, but that seems to be all that's being offered around here: Cars for Sale: Used 2016 Nissan 370Z in Coupe, McKinney TX: 75069 Details - Coupe - Autotrader

10-15-2016, 07:06 PM	#22 (permalink)
Mr Chow Base Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 10 Drives: 14 BrSi 370z T/S/7A Rep Power: 10	OP I'm in CA. April 2016 I purchased a 2014 touring, sport, 7AT, 8,100 mi. One owner, dealer maintained and certified (couple oil changes) $27,750 plus tax title etc. your asking price seems fair. I flew from the Bay Area to SoCal and drove back.

10-15-2016, 08:37 PM	#23 (permalink)
DavidZ370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: [= Posts: 1,065 Drives: 17' CWP STI Rep Power: 23	Welcome to the world of owning a nissan, as much as i love these cars and still do ) this was my only gripe, the value of these cars goes to ** with a few exceptions such as the (240z HR 350 r34) now i know that buying a car is by no means an investment but darn man ** happens and once you are off the lot these things go for pennies on the dollar. Good luck with the sale man its a beauty of a car.

10-17-2016, 09:20 AM	#30 (permalink)
mikewo6o Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern CA Posts: 22 Drives: 2014 370Z White Base Rep Power: 11	This thread seems to have degenerated into a 6MT vs 7AT.