slower than a 135i?

mattkim85 · 11-30-2009, 01:11 AM

does this make sense to you guys?

Laguna Lap | Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca Fastest Lap Road Tests - Motor Trend Magazine

skinnier tires and smaller brakes beat the 370z?

what do you guys think?

370zdub · 11-30-2009, 01:23 AM

Damn Nismo package... But really it doesn't add up.

I would say different days and different conditions considering the time gap is so small, but who knows maybe the driver was more comfortable in the 135i.

NYBladeZ · 11-30-2009, 01:27 AM

yeah I read that article and I've come to the conclusion that the driver was incompetant. Clearly he was comfortable in some cars way more than others, I know he's from some racing background but that doesn't translate to "stig like" skills

JakeZ34 · 11-30-2009, 02:15 AM

hmmm I thought the Z would perform better than the Camero SS, since it's a track inspired car. Maybe it is a driver, personally I'm not hating the Camero incase anyone thinks that I am. I just thought the Z would pull out corners better than Camero could.

Forrest · 11-30-2009, 02:41 AM

Went half way through the video but motortrend has a slow upload so i gave up watching.

My original theory was that if a camaro SS is faster than 370z on a track, the track must be large and have more straights than it does corners. After watching it indeed has many straights were power is king.

You also notice the Lotus Elise, maybe the best handling car on that page is beaten by a camaro ss. This kind of told me what kind of track it was before i even looked at the videos.

You can also notice that the list is kind of organized by the cars with the most power to the ones with the least power, yet again pointing out what type of track it is.

gleonard · 11-30-2009, 04:41 AM

how 'bout that Viper!

CBRich · 11-30-2009, 08:26 AM

Type of track determines the type of car that will do well. Simple as that.

370Zsteve · 11-30-2009, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forrest

Went half way through the video but motortrend has a slow upload so i gave up watching.

My original theory was that if a camaro SS is faster than 370z on a track, the track must be large and have more straights than it does corners. After watching it indeed has many straights were power is king.

You also notice the Lotus Elise, maybe the best handling car on that page is beaten by a camaro ss. This kind of told me what kind of track it was before i even looked at the videos.

You can also notice that the list is kind of organized by the cars with the most power to the ones with the least power, yet again pointing out what type of track it is.

Motor Trend needs to come to Lime Rock to do track testing. That track was just wrong.

Blown32 · 11-30-2009, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich

Type of track determines the type of car that will do well. Simple as that.

I have to agree with you there!

kenchan · 11-30-2009, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich

Type of track determines the type of car that will do well. Simple as that.

...and who pays more for advertisements to the magazines...

elmz · 11-30-2009, 03:50 PM

Laguna Seca is a proper road course, and although the Z put down a slower time than the SS, I gotta give the SS some credit. I'm not big on American cars but that car has come a long way. Although I still don't like it's styling queues its a well rounded car and it proved it by out performing the Z. And honestly, when I compare the Z's time with the Evo, 135i and Lotus, it adds up to me. The driver may have made some minor mistakes here and there during the timed runs, but those times are consistent IMO.

F430Spider · 11-30-2009, 04:28 PM

Lol i bet half of those lap times are fake, they just make up numbers and stats so they can write an article about it which will also be completely biased based on whoever pays them the most...

G35guy84 · 11-30-2009, 04:38 PM

Wow! Well, if the only complaint he had about the Nismo is that is SOUNDS like it's on the "school bus side of things", then I'll take it!! Many other cars had performance/handling/suspension issues, but if it's only the "sound" of the engine that you could find imperfect, then why bother saying anything negative at all?? Lol. Way to go Nissan!!!!

11-30-2009, 01:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
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11-30-2009, 01:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
370zdub Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UT Posts: 628 Drives: 09 370z 6mt,10 Ford Rep Power: 17	Damn Nismo package... But really it doesn't add up. I would say different days and different conditions considering the time gap is so small, but who knows maybe the driver was more comfortable in the 135i. __________________ 2010 Ford 6.4L Power Stroke Diesel: 588whp/1082wtrq 2007 Dodge 6.7L Cummins Diesel: 788whp/1405wtrq, runs 12's @ 7400lbs, Still miss my 370z!

11-30-2009, 01:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	yeah I read that article and I've come to the conclusion that the driver was incompetant. Clearly he was comfortable in some cars way more than others, I know he's from some racing background but that doesn't translate to "stig like" skills __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

11-30-2009, 02:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
Forrest Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: california 707! Posts: 677 Drives: 09 370z Blk 6mt sprt Rep Power: 258	Went half way through the video but motortrend has a slow upload so i gave up watching. My original theory was that if a camaro SS is faster than 370z on a track, the track must be large and have more straights than it does corners. After watching it indeed has many straights were power is king. You also notice the Lotus Elise, maybe the best handling car on that page is beaten by a camaro ss. This kind of told me what kind of track it was before i even looked at the videos. You can also notice that the list is kind of organized by the cars with the most power to the ones with the least power, yet again pointing out what type of track it is. __________________ my pictures http://www.the370z.com/members/forrest-albums-370z.html

11-30-2009, 04:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
G35guy84 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 305 Drives: '09 370Z 7AT Sprt PW Rep Power: 16	Wow! Well, if the only complaint he had about the Nismo is that is SOUNDS like it's on the "school bus side of things", then I'll take it!! Many other cars had performance/handling/suspension issues, but if it's only the "sound" of the engine that you could find imperfect, then why bother saying anything negative at all?? Lol. Way to go Nissan!!!! __________________ '09 Nissan 370Z Base 7AT - Sport Package - Pearl White \| Performance Mods: Stillen G3 CAI \| F.I. HFC \| F.I. TDX CBE w/ 18" resonators \| Megan Racing coilover kit \| Ichiba rear camber kit \| 20mm front / 25mm rear H&R spacers \| Aesthetic Mods: White interior/license plate LEDs \| 6000K bulbs \| 20% tint

11-30-2009, 02:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
JakeZ34 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 436 Drives: BS 370z 6MT/sprt pkg Rep Power: 198	hmmm I thought the Z would perform better than the Camero SS, since it's a track inspired car. Maybe it is a driver, personally I'm not hating the Camero incase anyone thinks that I am. I just thought the Z would pull out corners better than Camero could.

11-30-2009, 04:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
gleonard Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 196 Drives: 370z Touring/Spt 6sp Rep Power: 16	how 'bout that Viper!

11-30-2009, 08:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	Type of track determines the type of car that will do well. Simple as that.

11-30-2009, 03:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 17	Laguna Seca is a proper road course, and although the Z put down a slower time than the SS, I gotta give the SS some credit. I'm not big on American cars but that car has come a long way. Although I still don't like it's styling queues its a well rounded car and it proved it by out performing the Z. And honestly, when I compare the Z's time with the Evo, 135i and Lotus, it adds up to me. The driver may have made some minor mistakes here and there during the timed runs, but those times are consistent IMO.

11-30-2009, 04:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
F430Spider Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toronto Age: 32 Posts: 19 Drives: 09 Civic Si Coupe Rep Power: 374	Lol i bet half of those lap times are fake, they just make up numbers and stats so they can write an article about it which will also be completely biased based on whoever pays them the most...

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