2005 GTO or 2016 Z

NTMG · 09-25-2016, 02:44 PM

The GTO is a Australia mfg car by Holdon.

Nithmo · 09-25-2016, 02:45 PM

If I was the OP, I'd snag a new Mustang GT. Those things are beautiful, can make stupid power and are fun to drive. No, not the same driving experience as a 370z, but still a pretty good one nonetheless, as compared to previous iterations.

NTMG · 09-25-2016, 02:49 PM

What is the CSC issue?

Jsolo · 09-25-2016, 03:01 PM

Test drive the new ats-v. I think it'll definitely change your perception of gm cars. I was thoroughly impressed (as I was with the new camaro ss). Only problem with the latter is it's very impractical. The caddy on the other hand has plenty of room, but a price tag of about 20K more.

DOOMMONKEY777 · 09-25-2016, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NTMG

What is the CSC issue?

the consecutive slave cylinder, is the device lokated btw the clutch pressure plate and the manual transmission, its function is to press the clutch pressure plate, this item is made mostly out of plastic and rubber, the rubber part inside is the seal that keeps the fluid from comming out, after a while, metal shavings inside the csc develop and destroy the rubber causing a leak, or the plastic housing cracks causing a leak.

in order to avoid this, you can do few things, DONT ride the clutch and flush fluid eveey 12k miles or so. Sometimes its just a bad cqc from the factory, but most last.

i am at 45k miles going strong in NYC traffic every day so far. I clutch a LOT so there.

Nithmo · 09-25-2016, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo

Test drive the new ats-v. I think it'll definitely change your perception of gm cars. I was thoroughly impressed (as I was with the new camaro ss). Only problem with the latter is it's very impractical. The caddy on the other hand has plenty of room, but a price tag of about 20K more.

Shiiiiiiiet.... Here, the ATS-V, when nicely appointed, is 40k more than a Nismo. Maybe more.

NTMG · 09-25-2016, 03:32 PM

I will get a auto if I buy one.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-25-2016, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ

The GTO is rated to do 0-60 mph in 4.6 sec. The Z can do it in 4.5 sec.

The GTO is rated to do the 1/4 mile in 13.5 sec. The Z can do it in 12.9 sec.

In a drag race (stop light warrior), those don't look like winning numbers to me.

But, you all know what they say about opinions...

I would loooooove to know where you got your numbers from. Because those numbers sound like a Z with intake/exhaust before a tune.

The only Z going to 60 in 4.6 seconds is the auto, when the stars moon and quasars alone if you're not taking off with a foot of roll-out.

12.9 quarters. Again you have to own a auto for it to be 13.1. Which is achievable on the regular.

13.0 when the stars and moons and quasars align12.9 with intake exhaust and no tune. From a roll the Z can keep up with or beat a GTO off the line if you own a auto you can run with a gto.

If you own a manual z you're looking at 13.3 and to 60 about 5.0 sec flat. You are right about opinions but your facts are all off.

ChopsZ · 09-25-2016, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

The small amount of power per displacement argument with American cars used to be true, but not so much anymore. A 5.0 Mustang GT makes like 430hp these days bone stock, and check out the Focus RS if you want a pocket rocket Z killer.

I'm not talking about the new American V8's, I'm referring to the ones that were available around the time of the OP's 2005 GTO.

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

I'm not sure where you're getting your 4.5s and 12.9s numbers from, but those aren't realistic for a Z in stock trim. I've also read 5.2s and high 13s

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I would loooooove to know where you got your numbers from. Because those numbers sound like a Z with intake/exhaust before a tune.

The only Z going to 60 in 4.6 seconds is the auto, when the stars moon and quasars alone if you're not taking off with a foot of roll-out.

12.9 quarters. Again you have to own a auto for it to be 13.1. Which is achievable on the regular.

13.0 when the stars and moons and quasars align12.9 with intake exhaust and no tune. From a roll the Z can keep up with or beat a GTO off the line if you own a auto you can run with a gto.

If you own a manual z you're looking at 13.3 and to 60 about 5.0 sec flat. You are right about opinions but your facts are all off.

All of this is sheer nonsense, and I'm not going to get into a debate about it either.

Any competent driver with a manual and good traction can meet those numbers. It has nothing to do with magazine reviews or an automatic transmission. Hell, there's even multiple threads on this very forum with members posting those numbers in their totally stock MT Z's. All you have to do is do a search.

Now all of a sudden it's an impossible task and those numbers can only be achieved under extremely perfect and/or bazaar conditions?

Oh, and let's not forget the extra 40 lbs or so for the AT as well as the greater drivetrain loss over the MT.

Either way, it boils down to which driver is better, and who cares anyway? Does it really matter that much?

In the end, my facts are NOT "all wrong".

YYZ · 09-25-2016, 09:45 PM

My A4 2006 stock GTO ran 13.29 @106. That was considered a fast run for that car. They do seem to pull good on the top end.

YYZ · 09-25-2016, 09:50 PM

timeslip

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-26-2016, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ

I'm not talking about the new American V8's, I'm referring to the ones that were available around the time of the OP's 2005 GTO.

All of this is sheer nonsense, and I'm not going to get into a debate about it either.

Any competent driver with a manual and good traction can meet those numbers. It has nothing to do with magazine reviews or an automatic transmission. Hell, there's even multiple threads on this very forum with members posting those numbers in their totally stock MT Z's. All you have to do is do a search.

Now all of a sudden it's an impossible task and those numbers can only be achieved under extremely perfect and/or bazaar conditions?

Oh, and let's not forget the extra 40 lbs or so for the AT as well as the greater drivetrain loss over the MT.

Either way, it boils down to which driver is better, and who cares anyway? Does it really matter that much?

In the end, my facts are NOT "all wrong".

I'm as competent as it gets. The fastest I pushed my car doing about 20 runs was 13.0 before mods. It was one out of 20.

It matters when you're kicking inaccuracies about BOTH vehicles. I have seat time in both. I have over 5 years in my Z.

All I have to do is search? I've been here since the beginning my man. I know everyone here who has put a credible time down. But anyway....

Some of us don't have to fanboy up and make up numbers to feel pride for our cars... others not so much.

Yabrokak · 09-26-2016, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NTMG

I think the GTO 2004-2006 will be a classic in about 10-15 years. The Z is a beutaful car I just don't want to be underwhelmed with the drop in HP from the GTO to the Z.

I'd keep it on the basis of this alone. It's a "good" car from a defunct company. Eventually it will be a classic and as long as you enjoy it now, ride it out until it becomes said classic.

ChopsZ · 09-26-2016, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I'm as competent as it gets. The fastest I pushed my car doing about 20 runs was 13.0 before mods. It was one out of 20.

It matters when you're kicking inaccuracies about BOTH vehicles. I have seat time in both. I have over 5 years in my Z.

All I have to do is search? I've been here since the beginning my man. I know everyone here who has put a credible time down. But anyway....

Some of us don't have to fanboy up and make up numbers to feel pride for our cars... others not so much.

Yeah well, just because you've been here since the beginning doesn't prove anything. I'm not a fanboy of anyone or anything, whether you believe that or not. Doesn't really matter to me. I'm just stating what I've read from multiple sources on multiple occasions over the years. Inaccuracies according to who? At this point, it's pretty much a he said/she said thing.

Funny, back in 2010 when people were posting those exact numbers on this forum, they weren't catching any flack about it.

BTW, just because you've owned your Z for 5 years doesn't mean you're the best driver out there for the Z either. But you know what, I don't know anything about you nor do you know anything about me, so let's just leave it at that. Enough of this bickering.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-26-2016, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ

Yeah well, just because you've been here since the beginning doesn't prove anything. I'm not a fanboy of anyone or anything, whether you believe that or not. Doesn't really matter to me. I'm just stating what I've read from multiple sources on multiple occasions over the years. Inaccuracies according to who? At this point, it's pretty much a he said/she said thing.

Funny, back in 2010 when people were posting those exact numbers on this forum, they weren't catching any flack about it.

BTW, just because you've owned your Z for 5 years doesn't mean you're the best driver out there for the Z either. But you know what, I don't know anything about you nor do you know anything about me, so let's just leave it at that. Enough of this bickering.

Lol.... the only one bickering is you. I may or may not be the best driver of my Z. But I've pushed it to its limits. Some of my acquaintances here have pushed it to the limits. I'm only speaking on PROVEABLE sources.

But whatever dude. Knock out another 10 paragraphs to say absolutely nothing.

Peace.

09-25-2016, 03:01 PM	#34 (permalink)
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09-25-2016, 02:44 PM	#31 (permalink)
NTMG Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 39 Drives: 2005 GTO Rep Power: 9	The GTO is a Australia mfg car by Holdon.

09-25-2016, 02:45 PM	#32 (permalink)
Nithmo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 219 Drives: 16 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 128	If I was the OP, I'd snag a new Mustang GT. Those things are beautiful, can make stupid power and are fun to drive. No, not the same driving experience as a 370z, but still a pretty good one nonetheless, as compared to previous iterations.

09-25-2016, 02:49 PM	#33 (permalink)
NTMG Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 39 Drives: 2005 GTO Rep Power: 9	What is the CSC issue?

09-25-2016, 09:45 PM	#40 (permalink)
YYZ Base Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Raleigh Posts: 71 Drives: 370z sport 6m 2015 Rep Power: 9	My A4 2006 stock GTO ran 13.29 @106. That was considered a fast run for that car. They do seem to pull good on the top end.