2005 GTO or 2016 Z

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-26-2016, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CedzZ34

Having owned both, I've gotta be honest with you. I do truly love my Z, but if my former GTO were a 6 speed, I'd kept it over the 6 speed Z that I currently have.

It's a very nice car. Interior appointments, comfort, a rear seat, and tire shredding performance. The car is pretty reliable as well. Surprisingly, it handled very well also. The Z does handle better, but the GTO is no slouch in that department.

Here is where your challenge will be. The GTO was last produced in 2006, so it'll be hard to find one with low miles and in good shape. I would under no circumstances purchase a used GTO that has been modified. People do pound the hell out of them. If you can't find a very nice low mileage example of the GTO, keep the Z.

He owns the GTO already

Larso1 · 09-26-2016, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CedzZ34

Having owned both, I've gotta be honest with you. I do truly love my Z, but if my former GTO were a 6 speed, I'd kept it over the 6 speed Z that I currently have.

It's a very nice car. Interior appointments, comfort, a rear seat, and tire shredding performance. The car is pretty reliable as well. Surprisingly, it handled very well also. The Z does handle better, but the GTO is no slouch in that department.

Here is where your challenge will be. The GTO was last produced in 2006, so it'll be hard to find one with low miles and in good shape. I would under no circumstances purchase a used GTO that has been modified. People do pound the hell out of them. If you can't find a very nice low mileage example of the GTO, keep the Z.

Don't want to bash a GM muscle car, but the late model GTO's were not only the end of a GM model badge, but on top of that were an Ausie production model used to reduce development costs for an American product. I have serious reservations about the future collectibility of these imports. Hey, how about a '69 Firebird with built up 400ci and 4-spd?? Oh yah! (YMMV)

CedzZ34 · 09-27-2016, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Larso1

Don't want to bash a GM muscle car, but the late model GTO's were not only the end of a GM model badge, but on top of that were an Ausie production model used to reduce development costs for an American product. I have serious reservations about the future collectibility of these imports. Hey, how about a '69 Firebird with built up 400ci and 4-spd?? Oh yah! (YMMV)

Not necessarily. The new Camaros are basically the GTO that has been reworked. Pontiac then carried it over to the G8 in a 4 door model, and the new Chevy SS is basically the same thing as the G8. The fact that it was the last 2 door V8 car that Pontiac produced and the fact that Pontiac is no longer in business means well for the collectibility (<- is that a word?) of the car in the future... I carry a heavy hand in the muscle car market, and have a pretty keen eye when it comes to collectibles and their future value. I currently own a 1970 GS 455 Stage1, a 70 Ford Torino Cobra 429, a 1969 Road Runner Convertible 4sp A/C (1 of 17 produced), and a 71 Cuda. Over $200,000 worth of vintage muscle cars, and I got there by knowing what to buy, and what to sell at the right time. My Pops and I restored everything except the GS, and are currently restoring the Cuda ourselves. No way I could own these cars by buying them outright...

I do like your idea of a 69 Firebird, though... My Pops used to own a 1967 Camaro SS 375hp 396...

scope22 · 09-27-2016, 12:45 PM

Buy low sell high...how can i possibly lose!!!

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Originally Posted by CedzZ34

Not necessarily. The new Camaros are basically the GTO that has been reworked. Pontiac then carried it over to the G8 in a 4 door model, and the new Chevy SS is basically the same thing as the G8. The fact that it was the last 2 door V8 car that Pontiac produced and the fact that Pontiac is no longer in business means well for the collectibility (<- is that a word?) of the car in the future... I carry a heavy hand in the muscle car market, and have a pretty keen eye when it comes to collectibles and their future value. I currently own a 1970 GS 455 Stage1, a 70 Ford Torino Cobra 429, a 1969 Road Runner Convertible 4sp A/C (1 of 17 produced), and a 71 Cuda. Over $200,000 worth of vintage muscle cars, and I got there by knowing what to buy, and what to sell at the right time. My Pops and I restored everything except the GS, and are currently restoring the Cuda ourselves. No way I could own these cars by buying them outright...

I do like your idea of a 69 Firebird, though... My Pops used to own a 1967 Camaro SS 375hp 396...

CedzZ34 · 09-27-2016, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scope22

Buy low sell high...how can i possibly lose!!!

LOL. I've had my share of losses too. I also have a 1984 El Camino SS with a TPI from a 91 Corvette. I have waaaaaay more money tied up in that car than it'll ever be worth. The 1980's sucked for American performance...

AestheticCM1 · 09-26-2016, 06:38 PM

Keep the GTO & buy a Z, that way you've got a stoplight/highway warrior with room for the family, and a canyon carver for the weekend.

ssmoked · 09-26-2016, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AestheticCM1

Keep the GTO & buy a Z, that way you've got a stoplight/highway warrior with room for the family, and a canyon carver for the weekend.

Agree.

Don't think you will get much for the goat trade in. Might as well keep it if you don't need the money.

NTMG · 09-26-2016, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmoked

Agree.

Don't think you will get much for the goat trade in. Might as well keep it if you don't need the money.

I have had a offer of $12,000 in trade for the GTO. It has 68K miles.
I could sale it for $14,000.

bthomas87 · 09-27-2016, 12:13 PM

I used to own a 2005 GTO auto when I was in college. It was a great car, fast in a straight line, looked and sounded great (corsa cat back). Having owned 2 Z's now, I'd definitely pick the Z over the GTO any day. I just enjoy driving it more than the GTO. The Z doesn't throw my head back as much as the GTO did, but every other aspect of the car definitely makes up for it. You're not going to beat everyone at the redlight in the Z, but you'll have a lot more fun driving it as the sports car that it is.
My first Z was a 2015 base model, I almost immediately wanted to upgrade the rear tires, brakes, and suspension. I ended up trading it in for a 2016 Sport model so I could have all those things and the rev match, and man was it worth it!

njobe89 · 09-28-2016, 08:38 AM

idk why it's driving me crazy, but it is lol. it's spelled beautiful and you're not going to sale your car, you are going to sell your car.

NTMG · 09-29-2016, 08:20 PM

CEDZz34 so you think the GTO will be a classic soon?

CedzZ34 · 10-02-2016, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NTMG

CEDZz34 so you think the GTO will be a classic soon?

Sorry it took me so long to reply...
I think the GTO will be a classic, but it'll take longer than 10 years. This is part of the reason I decided to go ahead and trade mine it. Possibly 20-30 years from now it will be of very significant value since Pontiac is out of business and the GTO is the last 2 door V8 car that they made, and there was never a V6 version of the car. That and the fact that it was so underappreciated when it was being made kept production numbers down. This will hurt the current Camaro as a collector car. There are so many of those cars made and sold, and the fact that there is such a large aftermarket offering for it, it will be hard to find an unmodified Camaro in the future. The hard part for restorers will be finding parts that far into the future.

Your thoughts?

NTMG · 09-29-2016, 08:22 PM

I found a deep blue pearl 2016 sport with 2500 miles for $29000. Good price?

NTMG · 10-05-2016, 08:44 PM

I think you are correct.

Dahawkster · 10-06-2016, 03:08 AM

I would say keep the GTO

09-27-2016, 12:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
bthomas87 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 77 Drives: 94' GMC Sierra Rep Power: 10	I used to own a 2005 GTO auto when I was in college. It was a great car, fast in a straight line, looked and sounded great (corsa cat back). Having owned 2 Z's now, I'd definitely pick the Z over the GTO any day. I just enjoy driving it more than the GTO. The Z doesn't throw my head back as much as the GTO did, but every other aspect of the car definitely makes up for it. You're not going to beat everyone at the redlight in the Z, but you'll have a lot more fun driving it as the sports car that it is. My first Z was a 2015 base model, I almost immediately wanted to upgrade the rear tires, brakes, and suspension. I ended up trading it in for a 2016 Sport model so I could have all those things and the rev match, and man was it worth it! breitwbo and CedzZ34 like this.

09-28-2016, 08:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
njobe89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5,227 Drives: 2013 370z BS 6MT Rep Power: 174284	idk why it's driving me crazy, but it is lol. it's spelled beautiful and you're not going to sale your car, you are going to sell your car. B&W_Evader and -ZS-Carpenter like this. __________________ 2 plus 2 times 2 = ? ... hint, it's not 8 Stillen CBE, Stillen Gen 3, TP's, Uprev tuned - 324whp/264tq

09-29-2016, 08:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
NTMG Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 39 Drives: 2005 GTO Rep Power: 9	I found a deep blue pearl 2016 sport with 2500 miles for $29000. Good price? wideglideleon likes this.

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