2005 GTO or 2016 Z

Larso1 · 09-26-2016, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I would loooooove to know where you got your numbers from. Because those numbers sound like a Z with intake/exhaust before a tune.

The only Z going to 60 in 4.6 seconds is the auto, when the stars moon and quasars alone if you're not taking off with a foot of roll-out.

12.9 quarters. Again you have to own a auto for it to be 13.1. Which is achievable on the regular.

13.0 when the stars and moons and quasars align12.9 with intake exhaust and no tune. From a roll the Z can keep up with or beat a GTO off the line if you own a auto you can run with a gto.

If you own a manual z you're looking at 13.3 and to 60 about 5.0 sec flat. You are right about opinions but your facts are all off.

Here's one place, take your pick of 0-60 times depending on year and trim level. Looks like the earlier year 370z's are the quickest:

Nissan 0-60 Times & Nissan Quarter Mile Times | Nissan GT-R, 370Z, Maxima, Altima, Pathfinder, Murano & more 0 to 60 stats!

Can't vouch for the sources, but are supposed to be from major car mags. Also, don't forget the effects of elevation above sea level. You lose about 3% hp for every 1000-ft rise in elevation, cumulative. Unless, of course, you have forced induction. I'm at 4700-ft above SL. You really notice the difference, even seat of the pants acceleration.

CedzZ34 · 09-26-2016, 05:33 PM

Having owned both, I've gotta be honest with you. I do truly love my Z, but if my former GTO were a 6 speed, I'd kept it over the 6 speed Z that I currently have.

It's a very nice car. Interior appointments, comfort, a rear seat, and tire shredding performance. The car is pretty reliable as well. Surprisingly, it handled very well also. The Z does handle better, but the GTO is no slouch in that department.

Here is where your challenge will be. The GTO was last produced in 2006, so it'll be hard to find one with low miles and in good shape. I would under no circumstances purchase a used GTO that has been modified. People do pound the hell out of them. If you can't find a very nice low mileage example of the GTO, keep the Z.

cv129 · 09-26-2016, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CedzZ34

Having owned both, I've gotta be honest with you. I do truly love my Z, but if my former GTO were a 6 speed, I'd kept it over the 6 speed Z that I currently have.

It's a very nice car. Interior appointments, comfort, a rear seat, and tire shredding performance. The car is pretty reliable as well. Surprisingly, it handled very well also. The Z does handle better, but the GTO is no slouch in that department.

Here is where your challenge will be. The GTO was last produced in 2006, so it'll be hard to find one with low miles and in good shape. I would under no circumstances purchase a used GTO that has been modified. People do pound the hell out of them. If you can't find a very nice low mileage example of the GTO, keep the Z.

He has a GTO and thinking of purchasing a Z.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-26-2016, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Larso1

Here's one place, take your pick of 0-60 times depending on year and trim level. Looks like the earlier year 370z's are the quickest:

Nissan 0-60 Times & Nissan Quarter Mile Times | Nissan GT-R, 370Z, Maxima, Altima, Pathfinder, Murano & more 0 to 60 stats!

Can't vouch for the sources, but are supposed to be from major car mags. Also, don't forget the effects of elevation above sea level. You lose about 3% hp for every 1000-ft rise in elevation, cumulative. Unless, of course, you have forced induction. I'm at 4700-ft above SL. You really notice the difference, even seat of the pants acceleration.

This source takes roll-out times modded and not modded. No way to know if there was intake n exhaust or suspension upgrades. You can get up to .3 seconds more acceleration times on a suspension upgrade alone. Which on a track one might call stock but is still modified

This source is exactly why I said what I said.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-26-2016, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CedzZ34

Having owned both, I've gotta be honest with you. I do truly love my Z, but if my former GTO were a 6 speed, I'd kept it over the 6 speed Z that I currently have.

It's a very nice car. Interior appointments, comfort, a rear seat, and tire shredding performance. The car is pretty reliable as well. Surprisingly, it handled very well also. The Z does handle better, but the GTO is no slouch in that department.

Here is where your challenge will be. The GTO was last produced in 2006, so it'll be hard to find one with low miles and in good shape. I would under no circumstances purchase a used GTO that has been modified. People do pound the hell out of them. If you can't find a very nice low mileage example of the GTO, keep the Z.

He owns the GTO already

Larso1 · 09-26-2016, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CedzZ34

Having owned both, I've gotta be honest with you. I do truly love my Z, but if my former GTO were a 6 speed, I'd kept it over the 6 speed Z that I currently have.

It's a very nice car. Interior appointments, comfort, a rear seat, and tire shredding performance. The car is pretty reliable as well. Surprisingly, it handled very well also. The Z does handle better, but the GTO is no slouch in that department.

Here is where your challenge will be. The GTO was last produced in 2006, so it'll be hard to find one with low miles and in good shape. I would under no circumstances purchase a used GTO that has been modified. People do pound the hell out of them. If you can't find a very nice low mileage example of the GTO, keep the Z.

Don't want to bash a GM muscle car, but the late model GTO's were not only the end of a GM model badge, but on top of that were an Ausie production model used to reduce development costs for an American product. I have serious reservations about the future collectibility of these imports. Hey, how about a '69 Firebird with built up 400ci and 4-spd?? Oh yah! (YMMV)

AestheticCM1 · 09-26-2016, 07:38 PM

Keep the GTO & buy a Z, that way you've got a stoplight/highway warrior with room for the family, and a canyon carver for the weekend.

ssmoked · 09-26-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AestheticCM1

Keep the GTO & buy a Z, that way you've got a stoplight/highway warrior with room for the family, and a canyon carver for the weekend.

Agree.

Don't think you will get much for the goat trade in. Might as well keep it if you don't need the money.

Larso1 · 09-26-2016, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

This source takes roll-out times modded and not modded. No way to know if there was intake n exhaust or suspension upgrades. You can get up to .3 seconds more acceleration times on a suspension upgrade alone. Which on a track one might call stock but is still modified

This source is exactly why I said what I said.

Where on this web site does it say that? WTF are you talking about?

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-26-2016, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Larso1

Where on this web site does it say that? WTF are you talking about?

The site clearly states that they gather their information off of thousands of periodicals around the world. So we dont know if the cars are fully stock or have been mildly modified for specific tracks. While you can call those cars generically stock, unless they provide a source?
Some tracks will consider some types of mods as stock, hence this site being inaccurate for a baseline 0-60 time. We can only determine this with direct sources that verbally or in writing say these are stock times, as we know stock.

NTMG · 09-26-2016, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmoked

Agree.

Don't think you will get much for the goat trade in. Might as well keep it if you don't need the money.

I have had a offer of $12,000 in trade for the GTO. It has 68K miles.
I could sale it for $14,000.

ChopsZ · 09-26-2016, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Lol.... the only one bickering is you. I may or may not be the best driver of my Z. But I've pushed it to its limits. Some of my acquaintances here have pushed it to the limits. I'm only speaking on PROVEABLE sources.

But whatever dude. Knock out another 10 paragraphs to say absolutely nothing.

Peace.

LOL! Yeah, okay.

bthomas87 · 09-27-2016, 01:13 PM

I used to own a 2005 GTO auto when I was in college. It was a great car, fast in a straight line, looked and sounded great (corsa cat back). Having owned 2 Z's now, I'd definitely pick the Z over the GTO any day. I just enjoy driving it more than the GTO. The Z doesn't throw my head back as much as the GTO did, but every other aspect of the car definitely makes up for it. You're not going to beat everyone at the redlight in the Z, but you'll have a lot more fun driving it as the sports car that it is.
My first Z was a 2015 base model, I almost immediately wanted to upgrade the rear tires, brakes, and suspension. I ended up trading it in for a 2016 Sport model so I could have all those things and the rev match, and man was it worth it!

CedzZ34 · 09-27-2016, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Larso1

Don't want to bash a GM muscle car, but the late model GTO's were not only the end of a GM model badge, but on top of that were an Ausie production model used to reduce development costs for an American product. I have serious reservations about the future collectibility of these imports. Hey, how about a '69 Firebird with built up 400ci and 4-spd?? Oh yah! (YMMV)

Not necessarily. The new Camaros are basically the GTO that has been reworked. Pontiac then carried it over to the G8 in a 4 door model, and the new Chevy SS is basically the same thing as the G8. The fact that it was the last 2 door V8 car that Pontiac produced and the fact that Pontiac is no longer in business means well for the collectibility (<- is that a word?) of the car in the future... I carry a heavy hand in the muscle car market, and have a pretty keen eye when it comes to collectibles and their future value. I currently own a 1970 GS 455 Stage1, a 70 Ford Torino Cobra 429, a 1969 Road Runner Convertible 4sp A/C (1 of 17 produced), and a 71 Cuda. Over $200,000 worth of vintage muscle cars, and I got there by knowing what to buy, and what to sell at the right time. My Pops and I restored everything except the GS, and are currently restoring the Cuda ourselves. No way I could own these cars by buying them outright...

I do like your idea of a 69 Firebird, though... My Pops used to own a 1967 Camaro SS 375hp 396...

scope22 · 09-27-2016, 01:45 PM

Buy low sell high...how can i possibly lose!!!

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Originally Posted by CedzZ34

Not necessarily. The new Camaros are basically the GTO that has been reworked. Pontiac then carried it over to the G8 in a 4 door model, and the new Chevy SS is basically the same thing as the G8. The fact that it was the last 2 door V8 car that Pontiac produced and the fact that Pontiac is no longer in business means well for the collectibility (<- is that a word?) of the car in the future... I carry a heavy hand in the muscle car market, and have a pretty keen eye when it comes to collectibles and their future value. I currently own a 1970 GS 455 Stage1, a 70 Ford Torino Cobra 429, a 1969 Road Runner Convertible 4sp A/C (1 of 17 produced), and a 71 Cuda. Over $200,000 worth of vintage muscle cars, and I got there by knowing what to buy, and what to sell at the right time. My Pops and I restored everything except the GS, and are currently restoring the Cuda ourselves. No way I could own these cars by buying them outright...

I do like your idea of a 69 Firebird, though... My Pops used to own a 1967 Camaro SS 375hp 396...

09-26-2016, 05:33 PM	#47 (permalink)
CedzZ34 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Alabama Posts: 44 Drives: 2011 370z Rep Power: 9	Having owned both, I've gotta be honest with you. I do truly love my Z, but if my former GTO were a 6 speed, I'd kept it over the 6 speed Z that I currently have. It's a very nice car. Interior appointments, comfort, a rear seat, and tire shredding performance. The car is pretty reliable as well. Surprisingly, it handled very well also. The Z does handle better, but the GTO is no slouch in that department. Here is where your challenge will be. The GTO was last produced in 2006, so it'll be hard to find one with low miles and in good shape. I would under no circumstances purchase a used GTO that has been modified. People do pound the hell out of them. If you can't find a very nice low mileage example of the GTO, keep the Z. YYZ likes this.

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bthomas87 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 77 Drives: 94' GMC Sierra Rep Power: 10	I used to own a 2005 GTO auto when I was in college. It was a great car, fast in a straight line, looked and sounded great (corsa cat back). Having owned 2 Z's now, I'd definitely pick the Z over the GTO any day. I just enjoy driving it more than the GTO. The Z doesn't throw my head back as much as the GTO did, but every other aspect of the car definitely makes up for it. You're not going to beat everyone at the redlight in the Z, but you'll have a lot more fun driving it as the sports car that it is. My first Z was a 2015 base model, I almost immediately wanted to upgrade the rear tires, brakes, and suspension. I ended up trading it in for a 2016 Sport model so I could have all those things and the rev match, and man was it worth it! breitwbo and CedzZ34 like this.

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