Clutch Slave Cylinder Problems - Captone Law

caliraftdude

Hey guys -

I got an odd letter from a law firm that is apparently collecting data for a lawsuit. I personally have not noticed any issues with my Clutch (although I only have 14K miles on my 2009) and I almost round filed this. i thought I would check the forum and didn't find anything about Capstone Law but did find a sticky about the problem they appear to be representing Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures

So it appears there's some confirmed problems. A photo of the letter I received is attached and has contact information if you need it.

Cheers~

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caliraftdude

K - apologies, this probably should have been posted on the sticky thread after I had a chance to read more through the thread. I guess what I am curious about now is that there appears to be two fairly prominent resolutions considered by forum members:

The ZSpeed CSC/CMC replacement or the Z1 Alternative.

Has anyone been in contact with Capstone to determine if part of this settlement would potentially involve offsetting the costs of these alternatives?

Cheers~

SouthArk370Z

Sounds like they are looking into starting a class-action suit. But I'm no lawyer. You might want to do a little investigating yourself before contacting them.

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TreeSemdyZee

Sounds like a little bit of ambulance-chasing, most class-actions are.

Unfortunately, Nissan has been ignoring this problem for a lot longer than just '09. The 350z also had the same issue.

Nissan has been pretty deceitful with a lot of their ongoing issues. Including the steering lock mechanism, which they originally blamed on either a bad batch or bad manufacturing. Lo and behold four revisions later, they did away with the lock.

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JARblue

Both the OEM CSC and OEM CMC are prone to failure. Until this year there were only aftermarket options for the CSC.

There is a ZSpeed Heavy Duty CSC. This product is installed inside the transmission bell housing, just like the OEM CSC. It has been on the market for a number of years now.

There is a Z1 CSC Elimination Kit. This product replaces the internal CSC with an external slave cylinder mounted outside the transmission (similar to Nissan's fix for later MY 350Z's). It has been on the market for a few years now - I picked mine up in Spring 2014.

Recently, there is a new ZSpeed kit on the market with a self-adjusting external slave cylinder.

Earlier this year, the first aftermarket CMC for the Z came on the market from RJM Performance.

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jabo5779

The Specialty Z Clutch/Flywheel Packages come with an upgraded CSC. That, coupled with RJM Clutch asssemby and HD master cylinder and you should be good as gold.

axmea?

LOL. If you signed up, you probably felt good. That is it for you though. Wishful thinking if you hope to get the offset from Nissan to fund an aftermarket solution. Nissan's will fight class certification. You are SOL if you bought your car used - they will eliminate used Z owners from the class. Nissan will have a strong argument against including used Z's in the class - normal wear and tear, modifications, abuse, etc. Nissan will argue that only those who purchased new and still have the car will be in the class. Additionally, in cases where it failed under warranty, Nissan repaired it at no cost to the consumer. Nissan will also argue that it is not a safety issue. There aren't any reported deaths or injuries resulting from this. Highly unlikely but even if Capstone suck-seeds (pun intended) in class certification and win, the class will get pennies on the dollar. As with many class action lawsuits, the REAL winner will be the blood sucking lawyers at Capstone. Have fun with the class.

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caliraftdude

@axmea? Yeah - I am pretty familiar with the class action nonsense... I was part of at least 50 of them through the .com years and I think altogether probably amassed $350.. if that. Mind you - when I say "offset" I am under no delusions that it would barely cover tax.. not balance the scales.

@JARBlue I read some pretty encouraging reviews about the ZSpeed replacement - and that appears to be a successful change. The Z1 elimination sounds a little more intensive to replace but "corrects" the poor design.. however I found less empirical data on its reliability. It appears you went with the latter... do you know of any stats?

Thanks in advance,

njobe89

just send them the list of all the failures in the sticky thread lol

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mishuko

although some have provided real evidence and proof, most of it was he said she said which has no legal implications.

Nismodean

Except for people such as myself that have maintained documented proof (for the used car owners) that the previous owner didn't abuse the car prior to sell back to a nissan stealership. My car was purchased with 1700 miles on it and the CSC didn't go out until almost 60,000 miles. With the wave of CSC issues being reported over the years there leaves little doubt their is an issue with them, and with 58,000 miles between purchase and subsequent failure of my CSC there is no way that abuse or otherwise can be proven.

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axmea?

Lol. Unless you bought extended warranty from Nissan, yours is just an out of warranty claim.

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Nismodean

That will have teeth in a possible class action lawsuit.

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Spooler

The problem is the CSC is a wear item.


58K miles on my car will not be the same as someone else. My car is a commuter and commutes 105 miles a day. 58K on a car
that drives in traffic jams, city traffic, etc will not have the same wear pattern.

Jsolo

^^Is it? In past manual cars slave failure was practically a none issue. It's a wear item in this car because of poor design.

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