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Random Strata 08-16-2016 12:20 PM

RIP 2010 370z
 
So I've been carpooling to work for the past year and as a result have been driving my Z less and less. I was supposed to take it in for service back in February or when I reached 73k miles. However, by March I had only 71k miles on the car and thought nothing of it. Fast forward to the summer time and temperatures reaching into the 100F+ every day.
I got sick of riding in a truck that had no AC so I started commuting to and from my work every day. Then I had shoulder surgery at the end of June and let my carpool buddy drive my car and I to and from work for the next two months.
Three weeks ago I have a blow out on one of my rear tires. I order up two new tires and wait a week for them to get installed. I start feeling better and more able than before, so I decide to treat my Z to a new stillen Gen 3 intake. I even buy some painted door handles to give her a cleaner look.
I proceed to start driving to and from work again, finally noticing that I'd exceeded the recommended service time frame by 1k miles. I think nothing of it and schedule an appointment with the same Nissan dealership I've had the car serviced at for the past 6 years. Then on my way home on friday suddenly I start to hear a knocking.
Knock, knock, knock, knock, knock, knock all the way home. I of course am panicked and beg to the Z gods that it isn't what I fear. I drive the car to the dealership on my appointed day and at the very last light before I reach the dealership my car dies. I push her the last 100 yards up to the dealership and leave her in their care, fearing the worst.
Today I've learned that I killed her. The engine is completely shot and needs to be replaced. This is the first time I've killed a car, and it was the first car that I truly loved. I think I grew complacent in my years of dealing with the dealership for service. I had the premium service contract and the extended warranty, but both expired in January.

Now I'm left with 2 choices.

1. Replace the engine for $11k (brand new) or $8k used (30k miles)
2. part her out.

Anyone have any idea how much I can get for parts?

In the meantime I'll be working my way to the bottom of bottle.

Chuck33079 08-16-2016 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random Strata (Post 3537306)
So I've been carpooling to work for the past year and as a result have been driving my Z less and less. I was supposed to take it in for service back in February or when I reached 73k miles. However, by March I had only 71k miles on the car and thought nothing of it. Fast forward to the summer time and temperatures reaching into the 100F+ every day.
I got sick of riding in a truck that had no AC so I started commuting to and from my work every day. Then I had shoulder surgery at the end of June and let my carpool buddy drive my car and I to and from work for the next two months.
Three weeks ago I have a blow out on one of my rear tires. I order up two new tires and wait a week for them to get installed. I start feeling better and more able than before, so I decide to treat my Z to a new stillen Gen 3 intake. I even buy some painted door handles to give her a cleaner look.
I proceed to start driving to and from work again, finally noticing that I'd exceeded the recommended service time frame by 1k miles. I think nothing of it and schedule an appointment with the same Nissan dealership I've had the car serviced at for the past 6 years. Then on my way home on friday suddenly I start to hear a knocking.
Knock, knock, knock, knock, knock, knock all the way home. I of course am panicked and beg to the Z gods that it isn't what I fear. I drive the car to the dealership on my appointed day and at the very last light before I reach the dealership my car dies. I push her the last 100 yards up to the dealership and leave her in their care, fearing the worst.
Today I've learned that I killed her. The engine is completely shot and needs to be replaced. This is the first time I've killed a car, and it was the first car that I truly loved. I think I grew complacent in my years of dealing with the dealership for service. I had the premium service contract and the extended warranty, but both expired in January.

Now I'm left with 2 choices.

1. Replace the engine for $11k (brand new) or $8k used (30k miles)
2. part her out.

Anyone have any idea how much I can get for parts?

In the meantime I'll be working my way to the bottom of bottle.

You can replace the motor for far cheaper than that.

Chuck33079 08-16-2016 12:31 PM

http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...ock-lower.html

husam2012 08-16-2016 12:34 PM

I would recommend buying a used engine. You can even get a decent one from eBay for less than 3k, and about 1k for installation.

Probably your best choice unless you like spending more than the car is worth on repairs.

Jimbo370 08-16-2016 01:13 PM

Maybe this might help. some of your parts should be good. this is a nismo engine??
it was on facebook in parts for sale. shipping to California?
Dennis Vita Kalashnik
29 April
vq37 nismo engine and sports tranny willing to seperate


$2,500

Endicott, NY (13760)

Willing to separate. Need this gone make best offer. I have intake manifold and plenum and all wiring. No injectors. 52k on it. MUST GO garage clean OUT!!!





Dennis Vita Kalashnik's photo.


Dennis Vita Kalashnik's photo.

joetor 08-16-2016 01:18 PM

Really sad story man, Husam2012's idea is the way to go, DON'T part her out,

“The love I felt for her on that train ride had a capital and provinces, parishes and a Vatican, an orange planet and many sullen moons -- it was systemic and it was complete.”
― Gary Shteyngart,

ChopsZ 08-16-2016 01:19 PM

Obviously you're not one for checking you fluid levels... You apparently didn't "love" your car that much.

JC-Nismo 08-16-2016 01:26 PM

^^^ Like beating dead horses huh, Lol.......

njobe89 08-16-2016 01:44 PM

i'm surprised that it went out... i know people that drove up to 2k over the "recommended" service change and nothing went wrong with their car.

ChopsZ 08-16-2016 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3537339)
^^^ Like beating dead horses huh, Lol.......

Yeah, I don't get it. People getting a vehicle like this and totally neglecting it and/or abusing it. Makes no sense to me.

Some people should just stick to riding a bus.

ChopsZ 08-16-2016 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3537344)
i'm surprised that it went out... i know people that drove up to 2k over the "recommended" service change and nothing went wrong with their car.

Me thinks there's more to this story...

cv129 08-16-2016 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random Strata (Post 3537306)
....appointment with the same Nissan dealership I've had the car serviced at for the past 6 years. Then on my way home on friday suddenly I start to hear a knocking.....The engine is completely shot and needs to be replaced.

I'm curious...

With or without the mini-hibernation, you've implied your car was regularly serviced. I don't see how your engine would just go kaboom. Going 1k miles past an oil change/service interval won't do that, at least for sure not under normal usage.
  • When was the last time your car got serviced?
  • What service was performed last time?
  • You drive your car rough all the time?
  • What were you doing right before it started knocking?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random Strata (Post 3537306)
1. Replace the engine for $11k (brand new) or $8k used (30k miles)

Are those "out the door" prices or just the engines?

Anyway, best of luck OP.

Jayhovah 08-16-2016 01:55 PM

What actually caused the failure? Just going a little while past the recommended service date would not cause this... But if you had an oil leak or something that went unnoticed to the point of running dry...well....

njobe89 08-16-2016 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3537347)
Me thinks there's more to this story...

:iagree:

barncobob 08-16-2016 01:57 PM

shouldn't let your "buddy" check the oi:wtf2:

tonythetiger 08-16-2016 01:58 PM

im thinking oil starvation, i have same yr as you and my z tends to burn off oil over time so i always gotta check oil levels. but then again i do drive it pretty hard and couple of track days throughout the yr.

ChopsZ 08-16-2016 02:03 PM

Considering the OP has a very low post count and his avatar shows (his car???) drifting... Yeah, I'm calling BS on his story.

marty31 08-16-2016 02:06 PM

None of this makes any sense.

ChopsZ 08-16-2016 02:07 PM

Yes it does. Pure neglect and abuse. Plain and simple.

mishuko 08-16-2016 02:41 PM

religious habit of mine when I do a gas up. check the oil. check the clutch and brake fluid level and colors (any big change from the last check up gets noted and actioned if required)

that is every 120 miles. yep. 120 miles. I average 15mpg. last gas up I averaged 12.5mpg if that tells you how I drive my car.

I did an oil change early (i do every 5000km but this time about 3000) because I did notice some oil burning. Probably because the past few tanks I've been driving a lot more aggressively in higher temps and in DD as well.

your basic checks every gas up could have saved you a lot of heart ache

dP3NGU1N 08-16-2016 05:57 PM

Going over recommended service isn't going to kill your car.

Handing your car over to some jamoke who doesn't give a **** about it at the dealership, very likely, will. More than once I've berated my parents for not checking their fluid levels after they get their car serviced. More often than not I pull out the dipstick and their car's oil barely reaches the tip.

Once, while panic braking, I saw the low oil light come on in their Camry and, sure enough, the dipstick was completely dry when I pulled it out.

Check your fluids if you're not changing them yourself. Super important.

Random Strata 08-16-2016 06:27 PM

Didn't expect so many reply's this fast. I'll type this up in between calls.

I've already been looking around at used motors. I have a buddy who is a service representative at a repair shop who was able to hook me up with the shop for after hours work on my car. We should be able to swap it out over the course of a weekend. However, I have to wait 4 weeks before I can use the shop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3537336)
Obviously you're not one for checking you fluid levels... You apparently didn't "love" your car that much.

You are correct, I didn't check my fluid levels as I tend to to take it in to the dealership every 4 months or so for it's scheduled maintenance. This was the first time I had ever purchased a service package so I got used to letting the dealership do everything. That however doesn't mean I didn't love/appreciate my car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3537346)
Yeah, I don't get it. People getting a vehicle like this and totally neglecting it and/or abusing it. Makes no sense to me.

Some people should just stick to riding a bus.

:gtfo2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3537347)
Me thinks there's more to this story...

Last time the car was serviced was Back in November and the next scheduled maintenance was in February. I keep all of the service paperwork each time it's maintained so I have records all the way back to 2010.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3537350)
I'm curious...

With or without the mini-hibernation, you've implied your car was regularly serviced. I don't see how your engine would just go kaboom. Going 1k miles past an oil change/service interval won't do that, at least for sure not under normal usage.
  • When was the last time your car got serviced?
  • What service was performed last time?
  • You drive your car rough all the time?
  • What were you doing right before it started knocking?



Are those "out the door" prices or just the engines?

Anyway, best of luck OP.

Routine maintenance back in November, I'd have to dig through to see all that they did.
0-speed limit as fast as I can when getting on the freeway. Otherwise it's pretty tame to the point that my friends have commented on how weird it is that I never speed.
Accelerated onto the freeway when knocking occurred, I pulled over thinking something was stuck in the wheel well. That's when I realized the knock was coming from the engine and proceeded to freak out the rest of the 40 miles home.
Those were out the door prices.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3537352)
What actually caused the failure? Just going a little while past the recommended service date would not cause this... But if you had an oil leak or something that went unnoticed to the point of running dry...well....

Per the dealership it looks like the engine was oil starved and it blew a rod.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3537367)
Considering the OP has a very low post count and his avatar shows (his car???) drifting... Yeah, I'm calling BS on his story.

Last I checked, drifting on a closed course wasn't.....actually I'm not even sure what you were trying to get at here so I'll leave that one be.

Not exactly sure why you like stomping on me when I'm already down, but I don't see how low post count has anything to do with this. Perhaps I don't share stories of me racing an SRT through traffic, because I avoid that stupid ****. I'm sorry I don't feel the need to post my opinion on everything after joining up three months ago like you. The fact that we're all here is proof enough that each and every person on here loves and respects their car. Even if you're a 20yo bro with a 12'' **** that is slayin all da hoes that your car brings you. You and I are here because we are proud of our cars and we wanted to share our passion with others.

Now if you would, please :gtfo2:

edk370 08-16-2016 06:30 PM

LS3 V8 swap...that's what I'd do.

Random Strata 08-16-2016 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 3537498)
Going over recommended service isn't going to kill your car.

Handing your car over to some jamoke who doesn't give a **** about it at the dealership, very likely, will. More than once I've berated my parents for not checking their fluid levels after they get their car serviced. More often than not I pull out the dipstick and their car's oil barely reaches the tip.

Once, while panic braking, I saw the low oil light come on in their Camry and, sure enough, the dipstick was completely dry when I pulled it out.

Check your fluids if you're not changing them yourself. Super important.

I did actually run into this very issue with them the third time I took the car in. They didn't fill the oil correctly, I took it in the same day and they took care of it right away while apologizing to me about 20 times. I'm not going to lie, I stopped checking this after about the 5th time I had it serviced and haven't double checked them since. It's also my fault for not taking it in when I should have back in February. It's also my fault for not checking the oil levels when I hit the 73k mile mark.

kenchan 08-16-2016 06:38 PM

73k miles its like a 4th hand used car.

get a new one.

labrador 08-16-2016 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random Strata (Post 3537517)
I did actually run into this very issue with them the third time I took the car in. They didn't fill the oil correctly, I took it in the same day and they took care of it right away while apologizing to me about 20 times. I'm not going to lie, I stopped checking this after about the 5th time I had it serviced and haven't double checked them since. It's also my fault for not taking it in when I should have back in February. It's also my fault for not checking the oil levels when I hit the 73k mile mark.

Ive got 80k and mine doesnt burn any oil. I drive 140 mile roundtrip to work and I work on the mexican texas border. Its hot.

kenchan 08-16-2016 07:25 PM

fak, windshield washer ran out.


time to get a new car.

ScottM 08-16-2016 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random Strata (Post 3537507)
You are correct, I didn't check my fluid levels as I tend to to take it in to the dealership every 4 months or so for it's scheduled maintenance. This was the first time I had ever purchased a service package so I got used to letting the dealership do everything. That however doesn't mean I didn't love/appreciate my car.

Not exactly sure why you like stomping on me when I'm already down, but I don't see how low post count has anything to do with this. Perhaps I don't share stories of me racing an SRT through traffic, because I avoid that stupid ****. I'm sorry I don't feel the need to post my opinion on everything after joining up three months ago like you. The fact that we're all here is proof enough that each and every person on here loves and respects their car.

I feel sorry for you bro. This has to suck. I know our work trucks change oil every 10k and some don't get done for 13k or more and they just keep on living.
I hope you find a good deal on a new (to you anyways) motor and chalk this up to a hard learning experience.

Duc_Z09 08-16-2016 08:03 PM

I do all my own maintenance and I suggest you do the same. Oil, filter, coolant, trans fluid, diff fluid, brake fluid, plugs, rotors/pads are all easy enough to do in your garage and it sure as hell beats overpaying for some guy at the stealership who doesn't give a rat's @ss about your car to do a halfassed job.:eekdance:

ChopsZ 08-16-2016 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random Strata (Post 3537507)
Didn't expect so many reply's this fast. I'll type this up in between calls.

I've already been looking around at used motors. I have a buddy who is a service representative at a repair shop who was able to hook me up with the shop for after hours work on my car. We should be able to swap it out over the course of a weekend. However, I have to wait 4 weeks before I can use the shop.



You are correct, I didn't check my fluid levels as I tend to to take it in to the dealership every 4 months or so for it's scheduled maintenance. This was the first time I had ever purchased a service package so I got used to letting the dealership do everything. That however doesn't mean I didn't love/appreciate my car.



:gtfo2:



Last time the car was serviced was Back in November and the next scheduled maintenance was in February. I keep all of the service paperwork each time it's maintained so I have records all the way back to 2010.



Routine maintenance back in November, I'd have to dig through to see all that they did.
0-speed limit as fast as I can when getting on the freeway. Otherwise it's pretty tame to the point that my friends have commented on how weird it is that I never speed.
Accelerated onto the freeway when knocking occurred, I pulled over thinking something was stuck in the wheel well. That's when I realized the knock was coming from the engine and proceeded to freak out the rest of the 40 miles home.
Those were out the door prices.



Per the dealership it looks like the engine was oil starved and it blew a rod.



Last I checked, drifting on a closed course wasn't.....actually I'm not even sure what you were trying to get at here so I'll leave that one be.

Not exactly sure why you like stomping on me when I'm already down, but I don't see how low post count has anything to do with this. Perhaps I don't share stories of me racing an SRT through traffic, because I avoid that stupid ****. I'm sorry I don't feel the need to post my opinion on everything after joining up three months ago like you. The fact that we're all here is proof enough that each and every person on here loves and respects their car. Even if you're a 20yo bro with a 12'' **** that is slayin all da hoes that your car brings you. You and I are here because we are proud of our cars and we wanted to share our passion with others.

Now if you would, please :gtfo2:

LOL! Yeah, okay. If you say so.

And just to be clear, I wasn't racing anyone through traffic. What I did wasn't considered racing, and I wasn't whipping around in traffic. And also considering that section of road opens up to 55 mph, I wasn't even really speeding, at least not for more than about 3 seconds.

So please... :gtfo2:

onzedge 08-16-2016 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3537519)
73k miles its like a 4th hand used car.

get a new one.

:iagree:

markesc 08-16-2016 08:19 PM

The whole thing seems odd:

Did it use oil before? If the dealership did the oil changes, did they ever alert you that it used X amt of oil, etc during the last change?

Were you running full synthetic?

I had a highly modified wrx at one point, that pos would burn a quart of oil after about 1500 miles into an oil change cycle... The Z seems to not burn a drop at all being a simple NA motor.

My money is on they under filled it, impossible to prove though.

kenchan 08-16-2016 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markesc (Post 3537610)
The whole thing smells

wat?

cv129 08-16-2016 09:06 PM

Regardless of OP's neglect to check fluid level, I wonder if the dealership screwed something up during the last service, aka didn't fill enough or put 0w20 in (and hot engine shear it down to like a 0w10).

Again, sorry for the mess and best of luck.

Random Strata 08-16-2016 09:29 PM

Yeah I fully take responsibility for not checking things myself. This is the first time I've owned a car and not done the maintenance myself. I got so used to the dealership doing it that I just didn't pay attention anymore. My stupidity.

Getting an engine delivered to my buddy's shop next week and going to start doing some prep work on the car over the next couple of weekends. Hopefully I can finish the swap in a single weekend, but we'll see. Just going to go back to doing all the work myself.

Impossible to prove if dealer screwed up the last service so I'm not even going to bother trying to blame them for anything. I agree this all sounds fishy that only 1k miles over suggested maintenance that the engine would die like this. Hell my dad's suburban is about 4k miles over it's recommended maintenance and that thing is somehow still puttin along.

Learning a very expensive lesson here and thought I'd share my mistake with others here so that they may learn from my fug up.

Dirk McGurck 08-17-2016 06:44 AM

You know, while the engine is out, could do some upgrades...

Jayhovah 08-17-2016 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3537875)
You know, while the engine is out, could do some upgrades...

It's a pretty opportune time for a TT kit. =)

kenchan 08-17-2016 09:32 AM

Or just deep cleansing. :ugh:

JARblue 08-17-2016 10:30 AM

I would sure as hell try to blame oil starvation on the dealer. They're the ones doing the oil changes. Forget the warranty. That's just negligence.

Of course, you did not pay attention, so enough time has passed that the dealer is likely to get away with it :ugh:

onzedge 08-17-2016 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3538037)
I would sure as hell try to blame oil starvation on the dealer. They're the ones doing the oil changes. Forget the warranty. That's just negligence.

Of course, you did not pay attention, so enough time has passed that the dealer is likely to get away with it :ugh:

:iagree:


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