My G feels faster then my Z and it hurts...

Swindler · 08-13-2016, 04:17 AM

My G feels faster then my Z

I have noticed ever since I started using the paddle shifters in my 7at G37S coupe more often sort of recently that my G pulls noticeably harder then my 6MT Z. Particularly in 2nd gear... it doesn't really matter what rpm I am at in the G in 2nd, it will pull hard if I give it gas. BUT... if I am in 2nd in my Z and give it gas the rpm really has to be higher up before it starts goin really fast, like I can floor it but if its not revved up higher it'll take a bit to build up speed. Thats fine I get that but how come in my G it just feels like it really pulls in 2nd even around 3k but in the Z i gotta wait for it to get to 5-6k maybe before it really pulls?

It may just be in my head but I feel like my G is just faster when using the paddle shifters and I don't really get it.. My Z should feel faster just because its so much smaller and lighter right?? Has anyone noticed this that has driven a G too? In fact I bet its probably the same way in the 7at Zs. They probably just pull really hard... I am not a pro at driving a manual, I learned on the Z 2.5 years ago but I feel really good with it now and I don't think that is the issue... A lot of times I just feel like the Z is slower.. maybe its in my head.. maybe it is and I just got a slow Z.. or maybe I just completely suck at life driving a manual but that can't be 100% the reason here.. NO matter what I still love my Z its way sexier then the G and I love that its a manual. I still love both. But the G feels faster.

ChopsZ · 08-13-2016, 07:05 AM

Shorter gearing in the G, plus the torque converter allowing some slip which in turn allows the engine to rev quicker. Doesn't necessarily mean you're accelerating quicker though.

SouthArk370Z · 08-13-2016, 08:03 AM

Butt dynos are not very accurate. Get an accelerometer (some cell phones have them built-in).

Louie cat · 08-13-2016, 08:04 AM

Not my nismo ,it pulls nicely with the little extra hp and shorter rear end gears it comes stock with

cv129 · 08-13-2016, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Swindler

It may just be in my head

Sorta, but not entirely invalid I think...

Expanding on what Chopz said, you are comparing 2nd gear pull of a 7AT with shorter 2nd gear and help from torque converter against a 6MT with electronic throttle control that delays throttle response.

I own a 7AT G Sedan as well, I know exactly what you mean.

MagmaRed370z · 08-13-2016, 11:00 AM

I've had both 370z one in 6Spped and the other in 7AT. I know exactly what you mean. The 7AT has shorter gearing (RPM goes up real quick) and being an automatic (it shifts really quickly) but in reality it's comparable depending which gear you are on and what RPM (on both)

cv129 · 08-13-2016, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Louie cat

Not my nismo ,it pulls nicely with the little extra hp and shorter rear end gears it comes stock with

I thought pre 15 Nismos have the same rear end ratio as the sport pkg 6MT

Chuck33079 · 08-13-2016, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129

I thought pre 15 Nismos have the same rear end ratio as the sport pkg 6MT

They do. There's no difference before 2015.

Swindler · 08-13-2016, 04:51 PM

Thanks for the responses, I'm glad other people have noticed this too and not just me lol.

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forgot pw · 08-13-2016, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swindler

My G feels faster then my Z and it hurts...

I have noticed ever since I started using the paddle shifters in my 7at G37S coupe more often sort of recently that my G pulls noticeably harder then my 6MT Z. Particularly in 2nd gear... it doesn't really matter what rpm I am at in the G in 2nd, it will pull hard if I give it gas. BUT... if I am in 2nd in my Z and give it gas the rpm really has to be higher up before it starts goin really fast, like I can floor it but if its not revved up higher it'll take a bit to build up speed. Thats fine I get that but how come in my G it just feels like it really pulls in 2nd even around 3k but in the Z i gotta wait for it to get to 5-6k maybe before it really pulls?

It may just be in my head but I feel like my G is just faster when using the paddle shifters and I don't really get it.. My Z should feel faster just because its so much smaller and lighter right?? Has anyone noticed this that has driven a G too? In fact I bet its probably the same way in the 7at Zs. They probably just pull really hard... I am not a pro at driving a manual, I learned on the Z 2.5 years ago but I feel really good with it now and I don't think that is the issue... A lot of times I just feel like the Z is slower.. maybe its in my head.. maybe it is and I just got a slow Z.. or maybe I just completely suck at life driving a manual but that can't be 100% the reason here.. NO matter what I still love my Z its way sexier then the G and I love that its a manual. I still love both. But the G feels faster.

no worries.. my lightly modded GTI is faster dan both ur rides.

Raidernation · 08-13-2016, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot pw

no worries.. my lightly modded GTI is faster dan both ur rides.

Good for you. Congrats on having a fast girl car.

osbornsm · 08-13-2016, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forgot pw

no worries.. my lightly modded GTI is faster dan both ur rides.

Tell me more about... Understeer.

ramoszx12r · 08-13-2016, 09:21 PM

The best way to tell, is having a drag race. My money is on the Z.

Zbrah · 08-14-2016, 01:41 AM

You need a sprint booster.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-14-2016, 02:04 AM

An auto Z will pull anywhere from 4.6 seconds to 5.0 seconds.
A manual Z will pull anywhere from 4.9 to 5.3 seconds.

An automatic G. Will pull from 5.2 to 5.5 seconds.

A manual G will pull from 5.3 to 5.7 seconds.

Yes, the autos feel faster because of the torque converter and are faster because of .300 millisecond shifts.

08-13-2016, 04:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
Swindler Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Central CA Age: 35 Posts: 219 Drives: 2014 370Z PW Manual Rep Power: 12	My G feels faster then my Z and it hurts... My G feels faster then my Z I have noticed ever since I started using the paddle shifters in my 7at G37S coupe more often sort of recently that my G pulls noticeably harder then my 6MT Z. Particularly in 2nd gear... it doesn't really matter what rpm I am at in the G in 2nd, it will pull hard if I give it gas. BUT... if I am in 2nd in my Z and give it gas the rpm really has to be higher up before it starts goin really fast, like I can floor it but if its not revved up higher it'll take a bit to build up speed. Thats fine I get that but how come in my G it just feels like it really pulls in 2nd even around 3k but in the Z i gotta wait for it to get to 5-6k maybe before it really pulls? It may just be in my head but I feel like my G is just faster when using the paddle shifters and I don't really get it.. My Z should feel faster just because its so much smaller and lighter right?? Has anyone noticed this that has driven a G too? In fact I bet its probably the same way in the 7at Zs. They probably just pull really hard... I am not a pro at driving a manual, I learned on the Z 2.5 years ago but I feel really good with it now and I don't think that is the issue... A lot of times I just feel like the Z is slower.. maybe its in my head.. maybe it is and I just got a slow Z.. or maybe I just completely suck at life driving a manual but that can't be 100% the reason here.. NO matter what I still love my Z its way sexier then the G and I love that its a manual. I still love both. But the G feels faster. Last edited by Swindler; 02-10-2020 at 04:24 AM.

08-13-2016, 07:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
ChopsZ Track Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central Florida Age: 49 Posts: 965 Drives: 2016 370Z GM 6MT Rep Power: 2301	Shorter gearing in the G, plus the torque converter allowing some slip which in turn allows the engine to rev quicker. Doesn't necessarily mean you're accelerating quicker though. __________________ She's For Sale! PERFORMANCE: Aero Workz \| Akebono \| BC Racing \| EcuTek \| HKS \| MaxBore \| Motordyne \| Nismo \| RJM \| SPL \| StopTech \| Z1 AUDIO: Arc Audio \| Bazooka \| Helix \| Pioneer \| Stereo Integrity

08-13-2016, 08:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
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08-13-2016, 08:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
Louie cat Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: florida Posts: 261 Drives: 2010 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 142	Not my nismo ,it pulls nicely with the little extra hp and shorter rear end gears it comes stock with david81968 likes this.

08-13-2016, 11:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
MagmaRed370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,468 Drives: 14' 370z Sport Magma Rep Power: 13	I've had both 370z one in 6Spped and the other in 7AT. I know exactly what you mean. The 7AT has shorter gearing (RPM goes up real quick) and being an automatic (it shifts really quickly) but in reality it's comparable depending which gear you are on and what RPM (on both) UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ Sold: 2014 Magnetic Black Base. Current: 2014 Magma Red 370z Sport \| ARK Grip Exhaust \| 25mm HR Spacers \| GTR Button \| DRL Mod

08-13-2016, 04:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Swindler Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Central CA Age: 35 Posts: 219 Drives: 2014 370Z PW Manual Rep Power: 12	My G feels faster then my Z and it hurts... Thanks for the responses, I'm glad other people have noticed this too and not just me lol. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk MagmaRed370z likes this.

08-13-2016, 09:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
ramoszx12r Track Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Carneys point NJ Posts: 665 Drives: 16 370Z Nismo White. Rep Power: 1428	The best way to tell, is having a drag race. My money is on the Z. UNKNOWN_370, Ni9TFiVE and Louie cat like this. __________________ Tony Ramos

08-14-2016, 01:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5452	You need a sprint booster. JC-Nismo likes this. __________________

08-14-2016, 02:04 AM	#15 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	An auto Z will pull anywhere from 4.6 seconds to 5.0 seconds. A manual Z will pull anywhere from 4.9 to 5.3 seconds. An automatic G. Will pull from 5.2 to 5.5 seconds. A manual G will pull from 5.3 to 5.7 seconds. Yes, the autos feel faster because of the torque converter and are faster because of .300 millisecond shifts. Wonka2581, MagmaRed370z and Dream Team like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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